Lycra Louts...Arrrrgh

"Peter B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Only two were wearing Lycra, guess which?

The louts holding up the traffic in the road, obviously. The others were all in the correct place
for a cyclist -- out of VWM's & Big [censored] Man's way.

Who gives a [censored] if they run down some crumbly? She was about to die anyway.

T

may, in Guy's words, contain traces of irony.

Peter B said:

If ever a misnomer was applied to a stereotype *Lycra Lout* must be the worst. Yesterday, besides
myself, I noticed one other cyclist riding in a safe and legal manner on the road. I noticed loads
of youths riding on the pavement, mainly on BMX type bikes, some recklessly, and an oldish man with
a plastic shopping bag on each end of his bars riding along the pavement of the road I was quite
happily riding on.

Only two were wearing Lycra, guess which?

You and the old guy with the shopping bags?

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"Peter B" <[email hidden]> wrote

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If ever a misnomer was applied to a stereotype *Lycra Lout* must be the worst. Yesterday, besides
myself, I noticed one other cyclist riding in a safe

and

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legal manner on the road. I noticed loads of youths riding on the pavement, mainly on BMX type

bikes,

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some recklessly, and an oldish man with a plastic shopping bag on each end of his bars riding
along the pavement of the road I was quite happily

riding

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on.

Only two were wearing Lycra, guess which?

Off road is probably a different matter. It seems to me that any one clad in serious cycling
specific gear (baggy shorts as well as lycra) is far less likely to act considerately towards other
countryside users simply because cycling is the only activity they do. Eg. in the Forest of Dean
last weekend guess what the cyclists riding around the fishing ponds or riding straight through some
people watching some deer were wearing.

AndyP said:

in the Forest of Dean last weekend guess what the cyclists riding around the fishing ponds or
riding straight through some people watching some deer were wearing.

helmets? they make the brain shrink, y'know ;-)

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AndyP said:

Off road is probably a different matter. It seems to me that any one clad in serious cycling
specific gear (baggy shorts as well as lycra) is far less likely to act considerately towards
other countryside users simply because cycling is the only activity they do. Eg. in the Forest of
Dean last weekend guess what the cyclists riding around the fishing ponds or riding straight
through some people watching some deer were wearing.

I think that is hopelessly prejudiced. I wear lycra on my mountain bike - it's comfortable, warm,
doesn't flap, doesn't get caught in things, and when you fall off it tends to slide. This does not
make me discouteous or inconsiderate.

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Off road is probably a different matter. It seems to me that any one clad in serious cycling
specific gear (baggy shorts as well as lycra) is far less likely to act considerately towards other
countryside users simply because cycling is the only activity they do. Eg. in the Forest of Dean
last weekend guess what the cyclists riding around the fishing ponds or riding straight through
some people watching some deer were wearing.

That's not a fair call. I agree that a few people are discourteous but how can you judge people by
what they're wearing?

I'm primarily a mtb'er. I say "hello" and "thank you" each time our group passes walkers, etc, as
well as slowing down. Not that we ever ride fast anyway.

Mountainbikers are just as wary as road users are about the roads that it's a priviledge to ride
trails, bridleways, etc and abuse of that only leads to anti-cycling feelings from non-riders.

It's not fair to generalise like that because you end up giving all cyclists a bad name. What goes
around comes around eventually. I wear lycra because anything else tends to get ripped by my
chainrings.

ouch said:

That's not a fair call. I agree that a few people are discourteous but how can you judge people by
what they're wearing?

I'm primarily a mtb'er. I say "hello" and "thank you" each time our group passes walkers, etc, as
well as slowing down. Not that we ever ride fast anyway.

Hi Ouch

I'd agree with the above but not from a cycling point of view.

As one must, I popped into my town hall on Friday to pay my Council Tax <spit>. On my way out I
held open the door for an elderly lady, and she looked pleased, terrified and shocked all at the
same time.

As a dare I shaved off my hair (again) a few weeks ago and it's now in the skinhead stubble stage.
This may well have had something to do with her expressions.

The lady said thank-you in a quiet voice and seemed even more put out when I politely replied
something along the lines of you're welcome.

James

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"Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I think that is hopelessly prejudiced. I wear lycra on my mountain bike - it's comfortable, warm,
doesn't flap, doesn't get caught in things, and when you fall off it tends to slide. This does not
make me discouteous or inconsiderate.

It's not prejudiced, I didn't say I hate all lycra wearers did I. When I said that anyone clad in
serious cycling specific gear was less likely to act considerately I meant just that..."less
likely". Statistics based on personal experience. Ofcourse the majority of all cyclists are
perfectly considerate. But I can certainly see where the term lycra lout arises from. On several
occaisions whilst out for a stroll with my girlfriend she (being more nervous than me) has been
scared by cyclists passing close by at speed. Invariably these have been dressed in lycra etc and
not everyday clothing.

Another example...part of the shared use pedestrian/cycle track I use to ride to work each day has a
few narrow, badly sighted corners. The cyclists who (in my opinion obviously not theirs) ride
through it at too high a speed to be safe for anyone else are invariably clad in serious cycling
gear and are obviously treating their commute as a workout. Just my experiences.

James Hodson must be edykated coz e writed:

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Hi Ouch

I'd agree with the above but not from a cycling point of view.

As one must, I popped into my town hall on Friday to pay my Council Tax <spit>. On my way out I
held open the door for an elderly lady, and she looked pleased, terrified and shocked all at the
same time.

As a dare I shaved off my hair (again) a few weeks ago and it's now in the skinhead stubble stage.
This may well have had something to do with her expressions.

The lady said thank-you in a quiet voice and seemed even more put out when I politely replied
something along the lines of you're welcome.

James

Were you dribbling at the time too?

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As one must, I popped into my town hall on Friday to pay my Council Tax <spit>. On my way out I
held open the door for an elderly lady, and she looked pleased, terrified and shocked all at the
same time.

As a dare I shaved off my hair (again) a few weeks ago and it's now in the skinhead stubble stage.
This may well have had something to do with her expressions.

The lady said thank-you in a quiet voice and seemed even more put out when I politely replied
something along the lines of you're welcome.

James

Hahahahaha! I enjoyed that one.

I take your point.

At least the old lady probably has a more positive outlook on skinheads now, so no harm done!

Ian <[email hidden]>typed

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James Hodson must be edykated coz e writed:

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Hi Ouch

I'd agree with the above but not from a cycling point of view.

As one must, I popped into my town hall on Friday to pay my Council Tax <spit>. On my way out I
held open the door for an elderly lady, and she looked pleased, terrified and shocked all at the
same time.

As a dare I shaved off my hair (again) a few weeks ago and it's now in the skinhead stubble
stage. This may well have had something to do with her expressions.

The lady said thank-you in a quiet voice and seemed even more put out when I politely replied
something along the lines of you're welcome.

James

Were you dribbling at the time too?

D'you have a surgical scar visible through the stubble? Mebbe it makes you look well'ard.

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Ian said:

Were you dribbling at the time too?

If I was it was only because of the thought of having just paid my council tax.

James

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Helen Deborah Vecht said:

D'you have a surgical scar visible through the stubble? Mebbe it makes you look well'ard.

I didn't require surgery but I do have a a scar. More to the point, I have a scar on me 'ead, or,
rather, in me brain. T'was said scar on said brain - I have only the one brain - that caused the
major damage.

James

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James Hodson said:

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

D'you have a surgical scar visible through the stubble? Mebbe it makes you look well'ard.

I didn't require surgery but I do have a a scar. More to the point, I have a scar on me 'ead, or,
rather, in me brain. T'was said scar on said brain - I have only the one brain - that caused the
major damage.

There's your problem, then. Always remember to take two brains with you.

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Off road is probably a different matter. It seems to me that any one clad in serious cycling
specific gear (baggy shorts as well as lycra) is far

less

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likely to act considerately towards other countryside users simply because cycling is the only
activity they do.

This may or may not be so but I think the term *Lycra Lout* mainly refers to urban cyclists and is
used by those who interact with them in urban environments.

I often read of animosity between cyclists and ramblers and casual dog-walkers on bridleways and
other permitted off-road routes. I participate in all 3 of these pursuits and very rarely have had a
problem (granted there will always be miserable/inconsiderate gits in all walks of life, no pun
intended) and usually am met with pleasantness so have concluded it usually takes at least one party
to break the ice but two parties to cause conflict.

Pete

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At least the old lady probably has a more positive outlook on skinheads now, so no harm done!

I've asked a couple of skinheads, quite genuinly, how their chemotherapy was going. One did have a
scar as well, which looked very much like the scars I'd seen on people who'd needed brain surgery
for metastasis - poor guy's scar had nothing to do with that though.

- Richard

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I've asked a couple of skinheads, quite genuinly, how their chemotherapy was going. One did have a
scar as well, which looked very much like the scars I'd seen on people who'd needed brain surgery
for metastasis - poor guy's scar had nothing to do with that though.

Woz it a bockle?

Pete

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I wear lycra

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This does not make me discouteous or inconsiderate.

If I wore too much that would be both discouteous and inconsiderate for onlookers.

ouch said:

Hahahahaha! I enjoyed that one.

I take your point.

At least the old lady probably has a more positive outlook on skinheads now, so no harm done!

But I did feel like mugging a young, car-driving, telephone-using, inattentive-driving lass a few
moments later, but that's by the by. As you say, Ouch, no harm done.

My current scar - it's more of a scab now - is only 'cos I can't see much on my right side and what
I do see I tend to partially ignore. Therefore, my right side head shaving is a bit hit and miss.
This _is_ because of the brain scar. FWIW, Helen DV, you might be interested to know (or not) the
scar is on my left temporal lobe.

James

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