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  1. Last week's Mail on Sunday had this article describing a rising tide of ped
    deaths caused by cyclists:
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail5.htm

    Two weeks later this letter was published in reply:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail3.htm

    --
    Simon Mason

  2. Simon Mason said:

    Last week's Mail on Sunday had this article describing a rising tide of ped
    deaths caused by cyclists:
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail5.htm

    Two weeks later this letter was published in reply:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail3.htm

    I don't suppose they have written an apologetic retraction, choosing
    instead to just hide it in the letters page and carry on regardless. I
    wonder if they even bothered to check the facts after receiving the letter?

    --
    JimP
    --
    "We don't have a plan, so nothing can go wrong" - Spike Milligan

  3. Jim Price said:
    Simon Mason said:

    Last week's Mail on Sunday had this article describing a rising tide
    of ped
    deaths caused by cyclists:
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail5.htm

    Two weeks later this letter was published in reply:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail3.htm

    Quoted message said:

    I don't suppose they have written an apologetic retraction, choosing
    instead to just hide it in the letters page and carry on regardless. I
    wonder if they even bothered to check the facts after receiving the letter?

    Well, they could back up their claim. Cumulative death tolls can never
    go down, really, can they?

    --
    Mark.
    http://tranchant.plus.com/

  4. Jim Price said:

    Simon Mason wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    I don't suppose they have written an apologetic retraction, choosing
    instead to just hide it in the letters page and carry on regardless. I
    wonder if they even bothered to check the facts after receiving the letter?

    Welcome to journalism ..........

  5. Simon Mason said:

    Last week's Mail on Sunday

    A "paper" I wouldn't wipe my [censored] on (also see Daily Express)

    had this article describing a rising tide of ped

    Quoted message said:

    deaths caused by cyclists:
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail5.htm

    Two weeks later this letter was published in reply:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail3.htm

    but kudos to them for printing it, I suppose.

  6. Mark Tranchant said:
    Jim Price said:
    Simon Mason said:

    Last week's Mail on Sunday had this article describing a rising tide
    of ped
    deaths caused by cyclists:
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail5.htm

    Two weeks later this letter was published in reply:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail3.htm

    Quoted message said:

    I don't suppose they have written an apologetic retraction, choosing
    instead to just hide it in the letters page and carry on regardless. I
    wonder if they even bothered to check the facts after receiving the letter?

    Well, they could back up their claim. Cumulative death tolls can never
    go down, really, can they?

    why let facts get in the way of a good story?

    perhaps someone with time on their hands might like to do a survey of
    Pavementbikeniks; I bet a very small percentage will even be wearing
    Lycra.

  7. Mark Tranchant said:
    Jim Price said:
    Simon Mason said:

    Last week's Mail on Sunday had this article describing a rising tide
    of ped
    deaths caused by cyclists:
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail5.htm

    Two weeks later this letter was published in reply:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/mail3.htm

    Quoted message said:

    I don't suppose they have written an apologetic retraction, choosing
    instead to just hide it in the letters page and carry on regardless. I
    wonder if they even bothered to check the facts after receiving the
    letter?

    Well, they could back up their claim. Cumulative death tolls can never
    go down, really, can they?

    Not without resurrection, no, but that is just a tautology. I didn't see
    where they used the word cumulative.

    They have only given one actual figure, and any "rising toll" they seem
    to be attibuting to the implied idea that, with 4 times the number of
    cyclists, 2005 figures "could" go up for the "death and serious injury
    rate". In practice, it is also possible that it could go down. I have
    read here before of several studies which have found increase in cycle
    usage to accompany a decrease in other types of accident rates. Mail on
    Sunday readers may now think I have said the rate will go down.

    --
    JimP
    --
    "We don't have a plan, so nothing can go wrong" - Spike Milligan

  8. Response to MartinM:

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps someone with time on their hands might like to do a survey of
    Pavementbikeniks; I bet a very small percentage will even be wearing
    Lycra.

    Round here, the very few Lycra-wearers[1] I see are always on road bikes
    and always on the road; conversely, the many more pavement cyclists are
    almost invariably yoofs in hoodies on cheapo gas-pipe specials with their
    saddles set about 9 inches above the bottom bracket; this being their
    preferred transport before they graduate to chavved-up rust-buckets and
    begin their proper task of setting night-time land speed records in and
    between supermarket carparks.

    [1] <pedant> That's Lycra in the sense of obvious sporting wear, as
    opposed to the sense of an ingredient in e.g. socks & nail varnish.
    </pedant>

    --
    Mark, UK.

    better !pout !cry
    better watchout
    lpr why
    santa_claus < north_pole >town

  9. In article said:

    [1] <pedant> That's Lycra in the sense of obvious sporting wear, as
    opposed to the sense of an ingredient in e.g. socks & nail varnish.
    </pedant>

    How do you use a stretchy fibre as an ingredient in nail varnish?
    http://www.lycra.com/prod/page_lycra.html
    http://heritage.dupont.com/touchpoints/tp_1962/overview.shtml

  10. "Alan Braggins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Mark McNeill

    Quoted message said:

    [1] <pedant> That's Lycra in the sense of obvious sporting wear, as
    opposed to the sense of an ingredient in e.g. socks & nail varnish.
    </pedant>

    How do you use a stretchy fibre as an ingredient in nail varnish?
    http://www.lycra.com/prod/page_lycra.html
    http://heritage.dupont.com/touchpoints/tp_1962/overview.shtml

    Mix it in to provide an elastic fibrous structure to increase strength when
    it's dried?

    http://www.handbag.com/beauty/tips/nailpolishtested/

    cheers,
    clive

  11. In article said:

    "Alan Braggins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Mark McNeill

    Quoted message said:

    [1] <pedant> That's Lycra in the sense of obvious sporting wear, as
    opposed to the sense of an ingredient in e.g. socks & nail varnish.
    </pedant>

    How do you use a stretchy fibre as an ingredient in nail varnish?
    http://www.lycra.com/prod/page_lycra.html
    http://heritage.dupont.com/touchpoints/tp_1962/overview.shtml

    Mix it in to provide an elastic fibrous structure to increase strength when
    it's dried? http://www.handbag.com/beauty/tips/nailpolishtested/

    Boggle. So you can. And in hair care as well, apparently.
    http://www.modaintl.com/moda_news_Lycra_Henkel.html

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