Lucky Escape - Nottingham

Ed_Zep said:

If anyone here lives or works in Nottingham they'll know what I mean
about a city's transport almost grinding to a halt.

There are too many cars on the road. One too many in particular.

I was going about 20mph down Woodborough Road on the way into the city
this morning when a red Escort pulled out in front of me. Even with the
brakes full on I still clattered straight into the car. I'm lucky only
to be bruised.

Anyone else agree it's time to find a new country to live in?

Ed.

Yes we should deport him , but which country would have him?

--
Brian G

Ed_Zep said:

If anyone here lives or works in Nottingham they'll know what I mean
about a city's transport almost grinding to a halt.

There are too many cars on the road. One too many in particular.

I was going about 20mph down Woodborough Road on the way into the city
this morning when a red Escort pulled out in front of me. Even with the
brakes full on I still clattered straight into the car. I'm lucky only
to be bruised.

Anyone else agree it's time to find a new country to live in?

And how about telling us what happened next.

Do the police think he will be prosecuted for careless driving?

If you'd been going faster, you could have been seriously injured or killed.

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Anyone else agree it's time to find a new country to live in?

Bye.

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:30:24 +0100, "Paul - [censored]" <[email hidden]>

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Ed_Zep came up with the following;:

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Anyone else agree it's time to find a new country to live in?

Bye.

See ya, Paul.

I'm sure all the girls are going to miss those three kisses every time you post.

I crashed on going down the same hill last year. A '''friday'''
afternoon accident..................

Apparently just before I collided I had shouted "WAIT!!" not once but
twice really loudly so much so that the owner of the chemists outside
where it happened was able to tell the police officer that he heard
three loud noises, my two shouts and the sound of a crash even though
he never saw anything. The driver fully admitted responsibility. He
had to because loads of people had seen it.

The car was halted half way across the road. I decided to try and go
round the rear but did not make it and hit the rear door (Braking from
about 25mph) at about 15mph. Over the car I went and landed face down
in the road. Even though I did not land on my head I remember thinking
when upside-down in the air that I was pleased I was wearing my
helmet. The place went really quite. I think because I did not move
people thought I was dead. Very strangely not anybody came to see if I
was okay for what seemed and embarrassingly long time. Eventually the
owner of the car got out and started to pat my back in a gesture of
apology and remorse cos the crowd were getting ugly........(no not
really) I was put in neck brace and tookded away by ambulance.

This accident happened because the driver, after one cursory look to
the right, thought he had all the time in the world and concentrated
on looking to his left to time his entry into the traffic. When I
shouted he had no idea where the noise was coming from. He had
completely forgotten about me....if he ever saw me.........

I was wearing a reflective gortex red jacket, sliver and gold shades,
silver helmet,reflective fingerless gloves and a very keen interest in
my sensory data input. Even though I had a good idea that this person
would come out in front of me and even though I shouted "WAIT!!" at
him twice and even though I did brilliantly in reducing my injuries
and even though I was acutely aware of the irrational things drivers
do on a Friday afternoon I will be back on the road soon seizing the
carp with both hands........
Sean.

sean said:

I crashed on going down the same hill last year. A '''friday'''
afternoon accident..................

Apparently just before I collided I had shouted "WAIT!!" not once but
twice really loudly so much so that the owner of the chemists outside
where it happened was able to tell the police officer that he heard
three loud noises, my two shouts and the sound of a crash even though
he never saw anything. The driver fully admitted responsibility. He
had to because loads of people had seen it.

The car was halted half way across the road. I decided to try and go
round the rear but did not make it and hit the rear door (Braking from
about 25mph) at about 15mph. Over the car I went and landed face down
in the road. Even though I did not land on my head I remember thinking
when upside-down in the air that I was pleased I was wearing my
helmet. The place went really quite. I think because I did not move
people thought I was dead. Very strangely not anybody came to see if I
was okay for what seemed and embarrassingly long time. Eventually the
owner of the car got out and started to pat my back in a gesture of
apology and remorse cos the crowd were getting ugly........(no not
really) I was put in neck brace and tookded away by ambulance.

This accident happened because the driver, after one cursory look to
the right, thought he had all the time in the world and concentrated
on looking to his left to time his entry into the traffic. When I
shouted he had no idea where the noise was coming from. He had
completely forgotten about me....if he ever saw me.........

I was wearing a reflective gortex red jacket, sliver and gold shades,
silver helmet,reflective fingerless gloves and a very keen interest in
my sensory data input. Even though I had a good idea that this person
would come out in front of me and even though I shouted "WAIT!!" at
him twice and even though I did brilliantly in reducing my injuries
and even though I was acutely aware of the irrational things drivers
do on a Friday afternoon I will be back on the road soon seizing the
carp with both hands........
Sean.

Nightmare :-( I'm glad to hear that you survived.

Was he prosecuted?

Best wishes,
--
,,
(**)PeeWiglet~~
/ \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

Ed_Zep said:

If anyone here lives or works in Nottingham they'll know what I mean
about a city's transport almost grinding to a halt.

There are too many cars on the road. One too many in particular.

I was going about 20mph down Woodborough Road on the way into the city
this morning when a red Escort pulled out in front of me. Even with the
brakes full on I still clattered straight into the car. I'm lucky only
to be bruised.

Anyone else agree it's time to find a new country to live in?

Commiserations. That's what happened in the only crash I've ever been
involved in (fingers crossed). An elderly man pulled out straight in
front of me from a stationary position in a gap in the central
reservation, and I was so close that I couldn't help driving into his
back door, despite slamming on the brakes.

I hope you're ok.

Best wishes,
--
,,
(**)PeeWiglet~~
/ \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

What an intelligent response. I think you prove my point about people
in this country with remarkable eloquence.

I do hope you cycle safely, there are are a lot of poor drivers
around...

Thanks. I'm ok. I got "lucky"!

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What an intelligent response. I think you prove my point about people
in this country with remarkable eloquence.

I do hope you cycle safely, there are are a lot of poor drivers
around...

What an intelligent response. I think you proved your point about people
in this country with remarkable eloquence. :-)

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What an intelligent response. I think you prove my point about people
in this country with remarkable eloquence.

I thought so too ... 😉

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I do hope you cycle safely, there are are a lot of poor drivers
around...

You described a situation where if you'd been more aware would have easily
been avoided.

I have _never_ had a car, bus, truck or other vehicle of _any_ sort pull out
on me without me already planning what I'd do if it did and I've never yet
had "brakes full on I still clattered straight into the car".

I suggest you look more to your own manner of riding and accept
responsibility for your own actions.

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!

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Paul - censored said:

Ed_Zep came up with the following;:

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Anyone else agree it's time to find a new country to live in?

Bye.

See ya, Paul.

I'm sure all the girls are going to miss those three kisses every time
you post.

They aren't kisses, sweetie ... 😉

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!

Paul - censored said:

Ed_Zep came up with the following;:

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I do hope you cycle safely, there are are a lot of poor drivers
around...

You described a situation where if you'd been more aware would
have easily been avoided.

I wish I were as sure of my abilities as you seem to be of yours.

--
Dave...

Silly me... well, you're almost making me feel sorry for the guy in the
car.

So this hasn't happened to you and you could always pre-empt it if you
did? I somewhat doubt it...

dkahn400 said:

Paul - censored said:

Ed_Zep came up with the following;:

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I do hope you cycle safely, there are are a lot of poor drivers
around...

You described a situation where if you'd been more aware would
have easily been avoided.

I wish I were as sure of my abilities as you seem to be of yours.

Indeed, he reminds my of the sort of driver who says; "I've been driving 6 miles
home after 5 pints for years and never had an accident".

Right, then. We'll all have to rethink the drink driving rules.

I've never gone into a car, but I don't have the sense of invulnerabilty Paul
seems to have.

Oh, wait a mo.

Of course I haven't. I don't wear a helmet ;-)

Paul - censored said:

You described a situation where if you'd been more aware would have
easily been avoided.

I had a motorbike in London today pull alongside me on the right and
then start indicating left as we approached a junction. I shouted
"Don't you dare try and turn left" loud enough to be heard through their
helmet. He missed his junction and then dropped behind to work out how
to get back on his route.

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

sean said:

I crashed on going down the same hill last year. <snip descripton>

I am glad to hear you are alright and the liability seems pretty clear
in a legal sense but to have been in a situation where you were able to
anticpate another party's actions well enough to call a warning twice
and to still end up hitting them because you were unable to stop
suggests a degree of recklessness on your part which is not mitigated
by anything in your description of events. I sympathise with your
position and am not trying to justify the drivers actions which do not
seem to be excusable based on your post however pulling out from a side
road to turn right and waiting in one carriageway for a space in the
other carriageway is hardly uncommon practice and could easily cover a
continuum that runs from ciminally dangerous to slightly discourteous.
Can you recall how far away would you say you were when the driver
pulled out?

best wishes
james

Tony Raven said:

Paul - censored said:

You described a situation where if you'd been more aware would have
easily been avoided.

I had a motorbike in London today pull alongside me on the right and
then start indicating left as we approached a junction. I shouted
"Don't you dare try and turn left" loud enough to be heard through their
helmet. He missed his junction and then dropped behind to work out how
to get back on his route.

So many motorists seem to think that the indicator is an emergency device to
warn party b who's started a manouver on the basis that they are going where
their indication (i.e. none) has led them to believe they're going, that party b
is actually rather likely to collide with them (or they with party b) if party b
continues.

The classic is the driver who, intent on turning right, sails up to a roundabout
with no indicators on, so everyone thinks he's going ahead, and then, when he
sees someone rapidly approaching the exit before the one he wants, suddenly
realises that it would be a good idea to let them know that he's actually about
to use the same patch of road as they are, rather than just exit on the road
they're approaching on, as his lack of indication might suggest.

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Paul - censored said:

Ed_Zep came up with the following;:

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I do hope you cycle safely, there are are a lot of poor drivers
around...

You described a situation where if you'd been more aware would
have easily been avoided.

I wish I were as sure of my abilities as you seem to be of yours.

I ride, and drive, so I can always stop in the distance I can see to be
clear and safe. Seeing hazards before they become hazards is just good road
sense and anticipation of stupid moves.

It's a different story when I'm racing, mind, but that _is_ a different
story altogether. 😉

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!