Lowracer Tom will like ;-)

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Neat looking bike. The website says it has "tight turning ark [sic]". On presumes they mean small
turning circle and not some Old Testament article. %^)

The amount of leg overlap with the front would seem to make sharp turns difficult to
negotiate, though.

Jon Meinecke

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8.2 kg isnt too shabby either.

But does it have the proper weight distribution to be held overhead with one hand?

Tom Sherman - Near the confluence of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers

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Neat looking bike. The website says it has "tight turning ark [sic]". On presumes they mean small
turning circle and not some Old Testament article....

Who is "On"?

Tom Sherman - Near the confluence of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers

I don't see a step-up mid drive, so the high gear is somewhere in the 80-inch range. I'd refer
to it as a 'Starbuck's Racer.' For best effect, leave it on the SUV's roof rack while you're in
the shoppe.

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I don't see a step-up mid drive, so the high gear is somewhere in the 80-inch range. I'd refer
to it as a 'Starbuck's Racer.' For best effect, leave it on the SUV's roof rack while you're in
the shoppe.

This could be a job for Shimano Caprio or a 70 tooth chainring.

Bruce

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I don't see a step-up mid drive, so the high gear is somewhere in the 80-inch range. I'd refer
to it as a 'Starbuck's Racer.' For best effect, leave it on the SUV's roof rack while you're in
the shoppe.

This could be a job for Shimano Caprio or a 70 tooth chainring.

Or a Schlumpf High-Speed-Drive < schlumpf.chhsd engl.htmOpen ↗ >

Tom Sherman - Near the confluence of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers

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I don't see a step-up mid drive, so the high gear is somewhere in the 80-inch range. I'd refer
to it as a 'Starbuck's Racer.' For best effect, leave it on the SUV's roof rack while you're
in the shoppe.

Thank you John Foltz for the above. Really brought out a laugh. And the sad part about it is that it
is so true.

Mike S. St. Louis, Mo.

John, I know you perfer big gears but the gears are not that bad. The gear range probably isn't
enough to win at HPV races but it should be sufficient for 25mph (100rpm) with sprints to 30mph
(120rpm). I perfer to cruise around 90rpm so the gears would be suffient if a little low for any
down grades. Plus as was mentioned other gearing options are available such as 70+ tooth chainrings,
SpeedDrive, Dual-Drive, Caprio. It looks like a good lowracer for a small person but the BB looks
too low for someone my size. If you have to extend the boom ny further then it appears that your
heels will hit the ground. I'd perfer to see the boom extend stright out from the headtube instead
of down. That way seat to BB heights don't change instead of getting less for larger riders as the
current design.

Craig

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I don't see a step-up mid drive, so the high gear is somewhere in the 80-inch range. I'd refer
to it as a 'Starbuck's Racer.' For best effect, leave it on the SUV's roof rack while you're in
the shoppe.

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John, I know you perfer big gears but the gears are not that bad. The gear range probably isn't
enough to win at HPV races but it should be sufficient for 25mph (100rpm) with sprints to 30mph
(120rpm). I perfer to cruise around 90rpm so the gears would be suffient if a little low for any
down grades. Plus as was mentioned other gearing options are available such as 70+ tooth
chainrings, SpeedDrive, Dual-Drive, Caprio. It looks like a good lowracer for a small person but
the BB looks too low for someone my size. If you have to extend the boom ny further then it
appears that your heels will hit the ground. I'd perfer to see the boom extend stright out from
the headtube instead of down. That way seat to BB heights don't change instead of getting less for
larger riders as the current design.

If you know I like big gears, you probably know why: I hate using that 11T, and I don't much like
the 12T either. They're too hard on the chain, and you know killing a chain takes a lot of
energy. I can just feel that energy getting sucked out of my legs! Well, not really, but you get
what I mean...

I ran the numbers through my gear calculator. A 28x349 tire (if that's what it is,) is almost 16
real inches (15.9.) With a 60/11, that'd give an 87" top gear, good for 23 mph at 90 rpm and 30.9 at
120 rpm. I'm afraid I'd need a bit more. And, as I wrote above, I'd be very unhappy running around
everywhere in high gear, or maybe downshifting to my 60/13 on a hill. But I'm sure it would work
well for a lot of people

I agree that the bike looks interesting. Potentially a good platform for spinners or un-tall people.
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available such as 70+ tooth chainrings, SpeedDrive, Dual-Drive, Caprio.

It's an old "Weight Weenie" trick to build up the bike as light as possible, wheter it's useful or
not, then make a splash with a low figure. Then you quietly add in things like rear brakes and Dual
Drive or Schlumpf.

Another option would be that short cranks significantly raise the comfortable RPM.

We may joke about it, but it should be possible to produce a useful sub 20lb version, which is
nothing to sneeze at. And besides, it does look kinda neat.

Even though it's been done before, offsetting the fork legs, rearward at the crown is a great
idea for FWD.

BTW here's another 18.0 lb Chromo low racer. This weight includes rear brake, mid drive, a rather
heavy steel stem and dual mirrors (req'd for HPRa competition)
mnhpva.orgSherrie.jpgOpen ↗ Built by Ray Brick for wife Sherrie. She's quite light and
only about 5'1" so he could use main tubes that are only 1.375" x 0.035". Some of the weight savings
comes from tricks like using a piece of 1.25" x 0.035" for a BB shell, reaming the shell with
headset tools and pressing the 30mm OD bearings in w/o cups. Also the frame design is a more
efficient use of materials than the Nitro.