Lower tricept excersize, please suggest...

Clint said:

I either have a weak point in my lower tricepts, right near the elbow, or I
am using the wrong
excersizes... I have good development in all the 3 muscle groups of the
tricept except lower down
the arm. I have heard that doing dips helps this; can anybody make some good
suggestions? Thanks.

Clint

Dips, spellchecker.

Clint said:

I either have a weak point in my lower tricepts, right near the elbow,
or I am using the wrong excersizes...
I have good development in all the 3 muscle groups of the tricept except
lower down the arm. I have heard that doing dips helps this;
can anybody make some good suggestions? Thanks.
Clint

The tricep runs the entire length of the upper arm. There's no way
to target one end of a muscle. You need to make the whole muscle
bigger.

Clint said:

I either have a weak point in my lower
tricepts, right near the elbow, or I
am using the wrong excersizes...
I have good development in all the 3
muscle groups of the tricept except
lower down the arm. I have heard that
doing dips helps this;

Quoted message said:

can anybody make some good suggestions?

New parents.

(You're either born with good attachments or you're not, Clint.)

Barring that, check out:

http://www.thaneweb.com/health/feature_045_triceps.htm

Not mentioned in that htm: You could also try the one-armed seated
tricep press squeezing good at the top of the movement, but refraining
from locking out in order to keep tension on the muscle.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Jeff Finlayson said:

Clint said:

I either have a weak point in my lower tricepts, right near the elbow,
or I am using the wrong excersizes...
I have good development in all the 3 muscle groups of the tricept except
lower down the arm. I have heard that doing dips helps this;
can anybody make some good suggestions? Thanks.
Clint

The tricep runs the entire length of the upper arm. There's no way
to target one end of a muscle. You need to make the whole muscle
bigger.

There are three heads to the tricep, and there are some things you can
do to shift stress between them (though this is usually best achieved
for the upper head that crosses the shoulder joint rather than the one
the OP is worried about).

Cheers,

Ari

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spodosaurus said:

Jeff Finlayson said:

Clint said:

I either have a weak point in my lower tricepts, right near the
elbow, or I am using the wrong excersizes...
I have good development in all the 3 muscle groups of the tricept except
lower down the arm.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The tricep runs the entire length of the upper arm. There's no way
to target one end of a muscle [head]. You need to make the whole
muscle [head] bigger.

There are three heads to the tricep, and there are some things you can
do to shift stress between them (though this is usually best achieved
for the upper head that crosses the shoulder joint rather than the one
the OP is worried about).

Sure. But I don't see that helping near the elbow.

Jeff Finlayson said:

spodosaurus said:

Jeff Finlayson said:

Clint wrote:

> I either have a weak point in my
> lower tricepts, right near the
> elbow, or I am using the wrong
> excersizes...

SNIP

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The tricep runs the entire length of the
upper arm. There's no way to target one
end of a muscle [head]. You need to make
the whole muscle [head] bigger.

There are three heads to the tricep, and
there are some things you can do to shift
stress between them (though this is usually
best achieved for the upper head that crosses
the shoulder joint rather than the one the OP
is worried about).

Sure. But I don't see that helping near the elbow.

It won't. Ari, I believe, was disputing part of your statement:
"There's no way to target one end of a muscle [head]."

And if you read between the lines, he's also saying that the OP is SOL
(maybe/my interpretation).

Attachments are what they are. I can stretch 24/7 but my calves will
still insert only a scant ways down my lower leg. Likewise I can do
extensions to beat the band and my triceps will not reinsert themselves
closer to the elbow. Obviously I have no idea what situation the OP
finds himself in. Is he attachment-challenged or is he simply not
performing the correct exercise with the maximum intensity?

Today: Squats in the cage, free standing squats with an empty Olympic
bar, db presses, tricep pushdowns, treadmill

Next: laundry (urrgh!)

Tonight: Serenity at 10 p.m.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Quoted message said:

It won't. Ari, I believe, was disputing part of your statement:
"There's no way to target one end of a muscle [head]."

heh, okay, now that's a new bit of info.... many of the documentaries and
various literature I have read shows ways of isolating parts of a muscle....
such as when you do the lower third of a bicept curl for the lower end of
the muscle
near the elbow, contracting it for "peaking" of the head, and doing curls
restricted to the upper third of the motion for the upper end of the bicept,
etc...

anyway, i'm assimilating all this info, as the borg would say.

Thanks again guys.

Clint

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jeff Finlayson said:

Clint said:

I either have a weak point in my lower tricepts, right near the elbow,
or I am using the wrong excersizes...
I have good development in all the 3 muscle groups of the tricept except
lower down the arm. I have heard that doing dips helps this;
can anybody make some good suggestions? Thanks.
Clint

The tricep runs the entire length of the upper arm. There's no way
to target one end of a muscle. You need to make the whole muscle
bigger.

And full ROM is important for that...
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Clint said:

Quoted message said:

It won't. Ari, I believe, was disputing part of your statement:
"There's no way to target one end of a muscle [head]."

heh, okay, now that's a new bit of info.... many of the documentaries and
various literature I have read shows ways of isolating parts of a muscle....
such as when you do the lower third of a bicept curl for the lower end of
the muscle
near the elbow, contracting it for "peaking" of the head, and doing curls
restricted to the upper third of the motion for the upper end of the bicept,
etc...

anyway, i'm assimilating all this info, as the borg would say.

Thanks again guys.

Clint

Nah, that stuff about 'inner pecs' and 'bicep peaking' is [censored] I'm
afraid. We're slaves to our genetics when it comes to muscle shape.

Ari

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neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

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Quoted message said:

Clint said:

Quoted message said:

It won't. Ari, I believe, was disputing part of your statement:
"There's no way to target one end of a muscle [head]."

heh, okay, now that's a new bit of info.... many of the documentaries and
various literature I have read shows ways of isolating parts of a
muscle....
such as when you do the lower third of a bicept curl for the lower end of
the muscle
near the elbow, contracting it for "peaking" of the head, and doing curls
restricted to the upper third of the motion for the upper end of the
bicept, etc...

anyway, i'm assimilating all this info, as the borg would say.

Thanks again guys.

Clint

Nah, that stuff about 'inner pecs' and 'bicep peaking' is [censored] I'm afraid.
We're slaves to our genetics when it comes to muscle shape.

Obviously if you are isolating part of your tricepts, you also need to do
the same with your bicepts. Whether bicepts or tricepts, the concepts are
the same

David wrote: (snipped here and there)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Clint said:

isolating parts of a muscle....
upper end of the bicept, etc...

Obviously if you are isolating part of
your tricepts, you also need to do the
same with your bicepts. Whether bicepts
or tricepts, the concepts are the same

Bicepts, tricepts, concepts. I'm seeing a pattern.

Where's MY thinking cap? <g>

(I know it's around here somewhere.)

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http://curtjames.com/

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David wrote: (snipped here and there)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Clint wrote:
> isolating parts of a muscle....
> upper end of the bicept, etc...
>

Obviously if you are isolating part of
your tricepts, you also need to do the
same with your bicepts. Whether bicepts
or tricepts, the concepts are the same

Bicepts, tricepts, concepts. I'm seeing a pattern.

Where's MY thinking cap? <g>

(I know it's around here somewhere.)

Have you lost that damn hat again?

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Quoted message said:

David wrote: (snipped here and there)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Clint wrote:
> isolating parts of a muscle....
> upper end of the bicept, etc...
>

Obviously if you are isolating part of
your tricepts, you also need to do the
same with your bicepts. Whether bicepts
or tricepts, the concepts are the same

Bicepts, tricepts, concepts. I'm seeing a pattern.

Curt, you know English isn't my first language . . . after all I'm
Australian!

Quoted message said:

Where's MY thinking cap? <g>

(I know it's around here somewhere.)

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

David said:

"Curt James" wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Where's MY thinking cap?

(I know it's around here somewhere.)

Have you lost that damn hat again?

So you've taken it again, have you?

God damn bully!

:-/

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David said:

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Quoted message said:

David wrote: (snipped here and there)

Quoted message said:

> Clint wrote:
>> isolating parts of a muscle....
>> upper end of the bicept, etc...
>>
Obviously if you are isolating part of
your tricepts, you also need to do the
same with your bicepts. Whether bicepts
or tricepts, the concepts are the same

Bicepts, tricepts, concepts. I'm seeing a pattern.

Where's MY thinking cap? <g>

(I know it's around here somewhere.)

Have you lost that damn hat again?

It's hidden under the tinfoil hat.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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Quoted message said:

David said:

"Curt James" wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Where's MY thinking cap?

(I know it's around here somewhere.)

Have you lost that damn hat again?

So you've taken it again, have you?

God damn bully!

Ha ha! You don;t deserve a fine hat like that (besides it looks better on
me!)

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In article <[email hidden]>,

David said:

"Curt James" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

David wrote: (snipped here and there)
> > Clint wrote:
> >> isolating parts of a muscle....
> >> upper end of the bicept, etc...
> >>
> Obviously if you are isolating part of
> your tricepts, you also need to do the
> same with your bicepts. Whether bicepts
> or tricepts, the concepts are the same

Bicepts, tricepts, concepts. I'm seeing a pattern.

Where's MY thinking cap? <g>

(I know it's around here somewhere.)

Have you lost that damn hat again?

It's hidden under the tinfoil hat.

looks like I've been foiled again!

In article <[email hidden]>,

David said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

David said:

"Curt James" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> David wrote: (snipped here and there)
>> > Clint wrote:
>> >> isolating parts of a muscle....
>> >> upper end of the bicept, etc...
>> >>
>> Obviously if you are isolating part of
>> your tricepts, you also need to do the
>> same with your bicepts. Whether bicepts
>> or tricepts, the concepts are the same
>
> Bicepts, tricepts, concepts. I'm seeing a pattern.
>
> Where's MY thinking cap? <g>
>
> (I know it's around here somewhere.)

Have you lost that damn hat again?

It's hidden under the tinfoil hat.

looks like I've been foiled again!

;-D
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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David said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,
"David" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> "Curt James" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > David wrote: (snipped here and there)
> >> > Clint wrote:
> >> >> isolating parts of a muscle....
> >> >> upper end of the bicept, etc...
> >> >>
> >> Obviously if you are isolating part of
> >> your tricepts, you also need to do the
> >> same with your bicepts. Whether bicepts
> >> or tricepts, the concepts are the same
> >
> > Bicepts, tricepts, concepts. I'm seeing a pattern.
> >
> > Where's MY thinking cap? <g>
> >
> > (I know it's around here somewhere.)
>
> Have you lost that damn hat again?
>
>

It's hidden under the tinfoil hat.

looks like I've been foiled again!

;-D

ok, I'm stumped - what does this mean?