Lower back pains

On 27 Jul 2003 00:39:34 GMT, "Jiyang Chen" <[email hidden]> from Concentric Internet

Services said:

I am getting lower back pains on my road bike when I ride for more than 1 hour. I have raised the
stem to about 2 centimeters below my saddle, but I still get back pains. The guy at the bike shop
recommended I do situps, but they have not helped. Any suggestions are welcome.

Ride in 59-minute chunks.

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"Jiyang Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I am getting lower back pains on my road bike when I ride for more than 1 hour. I have raised the
stem to about 2 centimeters below my saddle, but

I

Quoted message said:

still get back pains. The guy at the bike shop recommended I do situps,

but

Quoted message said:

they have not helped. Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks Jiyang

Your saddle may in fact be too high. Your seatpost is set to allow leg

extension so you don't hurt your knees (of course), but if it is set just a wee bit too high your
pelvis rocks side-to-side slightly and this can leave you with lower back pain after a while. I find
it isn't a problem on short rides, but definitely a problem after hour-long rides (or longer). I
just can't seem to leave that darn seat alone...

"Jiyang Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I am getting lower back pains on my road bike when I ride for more than 1 hour. I have raised the
stem to about 2 centimeters below my saddle, but I still get back pains. The guy at the bike shop
recommended I do situps, but they have not helped. Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks Jiyang

i have been riding for years with lower back pain, caused by a severe case of degenerative disc
disease. though my no. 1 reason for riding is for enjoyment, it is also the only form of aerobic
exercise i can still do. the extra blood flow it stimulates really helps alleviate pain. i feel
better after my morning ride than at any other time during the day. here is what helps me; 1. work
on your flexibility. i stop halfway through each ride and do hamstring stretches, slow toe touches,
quad, and calf stretches. at home, i do these, plus some yoga. one yoga position that has really
helped me is the lying spinal twist. while flat on your back, extend your arms out to the side and
hold your legs up with knees at a 90 degree angle with feet on the floor. slowly allow your legs to
fall to one side as you exhale, inhale while bringing them up, then go the opposite way. 2. how long
is your stem? even though it may not be too low, it still may be stretching you out too much.
3.until you improve your flexibility, you may have to raise it a bit more until it is even with the
top of the saddle. 4. your abs also need exercise, but sit-ups are one of the worst choices because
they can aggravate lower back pain. do crunches instead, rolling your upper body toward your hips
while keeping the small of your back flat on the floor. 5. scale your riding back until you find
some relief. an hour is plenty to stay in shape, even a half-hour is way better than no exercise at
all. not exercising and becoming sedentary is the worst thing possible for back pain. hope some of
this helps, back trouble really sucks. i still have a lot of pain, that's why i'm up writing this at
3 in the morning. can't wait to get back on my bike in the morning for some relief! smokey

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can't wait to get back on my bike in the morning for some relief!

The hallmark of a true cyclist :-)

Simply the act & motions of riding cured my own sciatica (other ppl's MMV).

Of course, there are various types of lower back pain -- disc degeneration, pinched nerves,
kidney stuff ...

In my own case, it was just an unhealed fractured coxxyx pinching the sciatic nerve, and riding the
bike spread things apart and released the nerve. The bike that cured me was a well-fitting,
flat-bar'd MTB -- not bolt-upright, and not stretched-out & optimally aero. I probably luckily just
hit on the right combination of posture and exertion. The instantaneous relief I felt was better
than any orgasm.

To the Original Poster: You say any suggestions are welcome. Best thing is to talk to some doctors
who know what they're talking about.

cheers, Tom

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to get back on my bike in the morning for some relief!

The hallmark of a true cyclist :-)

Simply the act & motions of riding cured my own sciatica (other ppl's MMV).

Of course, there are various types of lower back pain -- disc degeneration, pinched nerves, kidney
stuff ...

In my own case, it was just an unhealed fractured coxxyx pinching the sciatic nerve, and riding the
bike spread things apart and released the nerve. The bike that cured me was a well-fitting,
flat-bar'd MTB -- not bolt-upright, and not stretched-out & optimally aero. I probably luckily just
hit on the right combination of posture and exertion. The instantaneous relief I felt was better
than any orgasm.

To the Original Poster: You say any suggestions are welcome. Best thing is to talk to some doctors
who know what they're talking about.

I ride because back in 1998 I was a police officer who answered the call to a house fire. My job was
to just make sure motorists didnt try to drive through the scene and run over the fire hoses. Much
to my suprise it was a arson in progress and the turd was armed with 2 pistols in his pants and has
2 automatic rifles and a sniper rifle in his truck. A bystander identified him as the homeowner, I
went up to him just to make sure he was uninjred (didnt know it was a arson at this point), I was
answered with
a .22 and a .45 . I was hit 3 times before I was able to return fire. One in the left arm which
shattered the radus (sp?) and had to be repaired with a steel rod, one shot went between my vest
and belt and has lodged in the spinal colum, this cannot be operated on due to it being actualy
in the spinal bone. Thre third shot hit me in the head and somehow didnt penetrate but left me
with a nasty knot. I didnt kill him (not for lack of trying) but nearly riped his leg off with my
issue .44.

Dr told me I will end up in a wheelchair someday and the more I exercise the longer I will
continue to walk.

So I got a bike

Its now a few years later and I ride approx 100 miles a week. Believe it or not I now feel very
little back pain on or off the bike and I am more fit than any of my friends. Im legally 18%
disabled and can out do any of my firends in anything we do.

I abselutly believe a bike can cure anything.

I don't think it's my seat post, because my hips do not rock side to side when I bike. I think it
has to do with my position on the bike. I feel like I am sliding forward on the bike, and I am using
my lower back muscles to support the weight of my body when I ride in the drops. I have tried
raising the nose of the saddle, but my lower back still goes sore, and painful after the ride. What
muscles do you use to ride in the drops?

Jiyang Chen

"Brian Sanderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Your saddle may in fact be too high. Your seatpost is set to allow leg

extension so you don't hurt your knees (of course), but if it is set just

a

Quoted message said:

wee bit too high your pelvis rocks side-to-side slightly and this can

leave

Quoted message said:

you with lower back pain after a while. I find it isn't a problem on

short

Quoted message said:

rides, but definitely a problem after hour-long rides (or longer). I just can't seem to leave that
darn seat alone...

"GABIKE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to get back on my bike in the morning for some relief!

The hallmark of a true cyclist :-)

Simply the act & motions of riding cured my own sciatica (other ppl's MMV).

Of course, there are various types of lower back pain -- disc degeneration, pinched nerves,
kidney stuff ...

In my own case, it was just an unhealed fractured coxxyx pinching the sciatic nerve, and riding
the bike spread things apart and released the nerve. The bike that cured me was a well-fitting,
flat-bar'd MTB -- not bolt-upright, and not stretched-out & optimally aero. I probably luckily
just hit on the right combination of posture and exertion. The instantaneous relief I felt was
better than any orgasm.

To the Original Poster: You say any suggestions are welcome. Best thing is to talk to some
doctors who know what they're talking about.

I ride because back in 1998 I was a police officer who answered the call

to a

Quoted message said:

house fire. My job was to just make sure motorists didnt try to drive

through

Quoted message said:

the scene and run over the fire hoses. Much to my suprise it was a arson in progress and the turd
was armed with

2

Quoted message said:

pistols in his pants and has 2 automatic rifles and a sniper rifle in his truck. A bystander
identified him as the homeowner, I went up to him just to make

sure

Quoted message said:

he was uninjred (didnt know it was a arson at this point), I was answered

with

Quoted message said:

a .22 and a .45 . I was hit 3 times before I was able to return fire. One

in

Quoted message said:

the left arm which shattered the radus (sp?) and had to be repaired with a steel rod, one shot
went between my vest and belt and has lodged in the

spinal

Quoted message said:

colum, this cannot be operated on due to it being actualy in the spinal

bone.

Quoted message said:

Thre third shot hit me in the head and somehow didnt penetrate but left me

with

Quoted message said:

a nasty knot. I didnt kill him (not for lack of trying) but nearly riped his leg off

with my

Quoted message said:

issue .44.

Dr told me I will end up in a wheelchair someday and the more I exercise

the

Quoted message said:

longer I will continue to walk.

So I got a bike

Its now a few years later and I ride approx 100 miles a week. Believe it

or not

Quoted message said:

I now feel very little back pain on or off the bike and I am more fit than

any

Quoted message said:

of my friends. Im legally 18% disabled and can out do any of my firends in anything we do.

I abselutly believe a bike can cure anything.

Holy [censored], dude, you make Lance look like a nancy boy.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I don't think it's my seat post, because my hips do not rock side to side when I bike. I think it
has to do with my position on the bike. I feel like I am sliding forward on the bike, and I am
using my lower back muscles to support the weight of my body when I ride in the drops. I have
tried raising the nose of the saddle, but my lower back still goes sore, and painful after the
ride. What muscles do you use to ride in the drops?

The arms. The hands support the weight. My back does little work in that position.

Quoted message said:

Jiyang Chen

"Brian Sanderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Your saddle may in fact be too high. Your seatpost is set to allow leg

extension so you don't hurt your knees (of course), but if it is set just

a

Quoted message said:

wee bit too high your pelvis rocks side-to-side slightly and this can

leave

Quoted message said:

you with lower back pain after a while. I find it isn't a problem on

short

Quoted message said:

rides, but definitely a problem after hour-long rides (or longer). I just can't seem to leave
that darn seat alone...

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Really? I've heard the pressure on the handlebars should be very slight. I'll try that tomorrow.

Thanks, Jiyang "David Kerber" <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I don't think it's my seat post, because my hips do not rock side to

side

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

when I bike. I think it has to do with my position on the bike. I feel like I am sliding forward
on the bike, and I am using my lower back

muscles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to support the weight of my body when I ride in the drops. I have tried raising the nose of the
saddle, but my lower back still goes sore, and painful after the ride. What muscles do you use
to ride in the drops?

The arms. The hands support the weight. My back does little work in that position.

Quoted message said:

Jiyang Chen

"Brian Sanderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

> Your saddle may in fact be too high. Your seatpost is set to allow

leg

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

extension so you don't hurt your knees (of course), but if it is set

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

wee bit too high your pelvis rocks side-to-side slightly and this can

leave

Quoted message said:

you with lower back pain after a while. I find it isn't a problem on

short

Quoted message said:

rides, but definitely a problem after hour-long rides (or longer). I

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

can't seem to leave that darn seat alone...

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In article said:

I abselutly believe a bike can cure anything.

They can cure lots of stuff, anyways. Some folks seem to like to attribute aches & pains to 'em. But
it's good that at least you & I, and probably many others, can see them as beneficial, therapeutic,
and ... just, plain /good/. Don'cha just hate it when ppl associate riding with pain & suffering,
when it's quite the opposite?

I'm glad you're doing well. Keep it up :-)

Skohl, Tom

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Jiyang,

sounds like your frame is too big for you....

I had this problem on my old bike, which was nicked by some [censored]... Since I replaced it, with a
smaller framed bike, voila, no back pain....

"Jiyang Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I don't think it's my seat post, because my hips do not rock side to side when I bike. I think it
has to do with my position on the bike. I feel like I am sliding forward on the bike, and I am
using my lower back

muscles

Quoted message said:

to support the weight of my body when I ride in the drops. I have tried raising the nose of the
saddle, but my lower back still goes sore, and painful after the ride. What muscles do you use to
ride in the drops?

Jiyang Chen

"Brian Sanderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Your saddle may in fact be too high. Your seatpost is set to allow

leg

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

extension so you don't hurt your knees (of course), but if it is set

just

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

wee bit too high your pelvis rocks side-to-side slightly and this can

leave

Quoted message said:

you with lower back pain after a while. I find it isn't a problem on

short

Quoted message said:

rides, but definitely a problem after hour-long rides (or longer). I

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

can't seem to leave that darn seat alone...

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Really? I've heard the pressure on the handlebars should be very slight. I'll try that tomorrow.

Maybe some people like it that way, but most say you should have about equal weight on your seat and
hands, with your legs supporting quite a bit while you're pedaling.

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Thanks, Jiyang "David Kerber" <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I don't think it's my seat post, because my hips do not rock side to

side

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

when I bike. I think it has to do with my position on the bike. I feel like I am sliding
forward on the bike, and I am using my lower back

muscles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to support the weight of my body when I ride in the drops. I have tried raising the nose of
the saddle, but my lower back still goes sore, and painful after the ride. What muscles do you
use to ride in the drops?

The arms. The hands support the weight. My back does little work in that position.

Quoted message said:

Jiyang Chen

"Brian Sanderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Your saddle may in fact be too high. Your seatpost is set to allow

leg

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Quoted message said:

> extension so you don't hurt your knees (of course), but if it is set

just

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a
> wee bit too high your pelvis rocks side-to-side slightly and this can
leave
> you with lower back pain after a while. I find it isn't a problem on
short
> rides, but definitely a problem after hour-long rides (or longer). I

just

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> can't seem to leave that darn seat alone...
>
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