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  1. Ok i get back pain when riding, use to sit on computer alot with bad sitting postions.

    Bike fit?

    Does a bike fit mean a new bike?

    I 6"2/6"3 with 59cm frame

    dont know if my seat is the right height or handlebars etc.

    My leg is at the correct angle.

    Main question is though a bike fit? Does it mean i need to get a bike built for me to be fitted or can they fit me on my current 1? I've only had it 5 or 6 weeks and payed alot for it and most likely wont be aloud to buy a new 1.

    What do i do?

  2. If you bought the bike from a good dealer than they should have fitted you to the bike. If you bought it from a private sale then take it to a bike shop and get fitted to your bike. That is what I would do first. What bike do you have?

    Sam123 said:

    Ok i get back pain when riding, use to sit on computer alot with bad sitting postions.

    Bike fit?

    Does a bike fit mean a new bike?

    I 6"2/6"3 with 59cm frame

    dont know if my seat is the right height or handlebars etc.

    My leg is at the correct angle.

    Main question is though a bike fit? Does it mean i need to get a bike built for me to be fitted or can they fit me on my current 1? I've only had it 5 or 6 weeks and payed alot for it and most likely wont be aloud to buy a new 1.

    What do i do?

  3. http://i30.tinypic.com/21ms1ep.jpg

    I brought it from my local bike shop and they orderd it in.

    Claud Butler Roubaix.

    I'm not sure if the bike shop will know how show the correct fit either.

    Around my area isn't very experianced around here. Not many clubs just social clubs for the elderly and slow rides no racing. Just the odd TT's

  4. WOW! I would look for a shop that can do a bike fit. I makes a big differance. They will adjust the seat, bars/stem and cleats.

    Sam123 said:

    http://i30.tinypic.com/21ms1ep.jpg

    I brought it from my local bike shop and they orderd it in.

    Claud Butler Roubaix.

    I'm not sure if the bike shop will know how show the correct fit either.

    Around my area isn't very experianced around here. Not many clubs just social clubs for the elderly and slow rides no racing. Just the odd TT's

  5. Even with perfect fit, lower back pain isn't all that unusual. I rode with more-or-less constant low back pain for a few years, as a result of old weight-lifting strains and lack of flexibility.
    No need to suffer though. Suggest you work on flexibility and core strength (abs and lower back), and avoid pushing big gears until it clears up. Be patient, take it easy, and with daily stretching and core strengthening, you'll get better.

  6. dhk2 said:

    Even with perfect fit, lower back pain isn't all that unusual. I rode with more-or-less constant low back pain for a few years, as a result of old weight-lifting strains and lack of flexibility.
    No need to suffer though. Suggest you work on flexibility and core strength (abs and lower back), and avoid pushing big gears until it clears up. Be patient, take it easy, and with daily stretching and core strengthening, you'll get better.


    Do you have any exercises that will improve all that?

    EDIT - I'm off to bed now, i'll read your posts tommorrow after school. Thanks.

  7. A decent bike shop should be able to define your correct bike size and steer you in the general direction of proper bike fit. If your bike is set up correctly, you should not feel undue discomfort. Are you also doing some cross-training for core strength? Core stabilization will help with endurance and reduce stress on your back.

    Google "core exercises."

  8. There are a variety of stretches and strengthening exercises you can do. Some guys will tell you that stretching and core exercise is a waste of time, but they're generally the one's who are yet to experience low-back pain. First, how's your hamstring flexibility? Can you reach down and palm the ground with your knees locked, or at least touch your toes? If not, the typical racebike position might be too extreme for now. And for core strength, can you do leg raises easily without pain, and hold yourself in the "plank" position (elbows and toes on ground) for at least 30 seconds?

    You can work on hamstring flexibility by sitting on the floor with legs straight and extending your arms/fingers to grab your toes. Do it gently, hold for 20-30 seconds, then release and relax. Repeat two more times. Next one I do is sitting on a bench, lower your upper body so that your shoulders are on or under your knees. As you improve, you'll be able to sit on the floor with straight legs and get your shoulders close to your knees. Again, 2 or 3 times, holding for 20-30 seconds each works well. Don't push it too hard, just to the point of really feeling the stretch. Final one I like is the "grapevine", where you sit on the floor, put one leg with bent knee over the other straight leg. Then, you twist your upper body to put your opposite arm over the bent knee. Once or twice for 20-30 sec, then repeat on other side.

    For ab strength, I like leg raises and crunches, as well as heavier weights at the gym once a week. You can start with one-legged raises, keeping the other leg bent with foot flat on the floor, then after a few months move up to two legs at a time. On these as well as crunches, keep your back flat on the floor, pressing the small of your back down to start the move.

    For lower back, I like old-fashioned "good mornings", just bending forward at the waist with hands folded in back of your neck. Planks are a good finishing move, since they work abs and lower back together. Just get down like you're doing a pushup, but rest your weight on your elbows and hold for 30-60 seconds.

    OK, that's just what I do. A buddy here, former Cat I, uses an exercise ball as well as some side plank exercises and some different stretches. Important thing is to take your time and do this stuff daily. It only takes five minutes, and riding pain-free is worth the time and effort.

  9. How great your info is!But Can you give some more sample questions and answers.I really want to get more info about this topicIt really useful for me. Thanks.

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  10. Quoted post said:

    First, how's your hamstring flexibility? Can you reach down and palm the ground with your knees locked, or at least touch your toes? If not, the typical racebike position might be too extreme for now.


    Im about 17Cm away when i try to put my palms on the floor i can touch my toes if i put my fingers out.

  11. Is it posible for you to post a photo of you side ways on, on your bike?Also make sure that in the photo you are in your usual riding position, ie on the drops or hoods?

  12. Went to Docters today he said to go to a Osteopathy to strengthen my back.

    Also he said that i need to touch the floor with my feet?

    On my bike i cant touch the floor as i need the seat high so i can extend my leg for the right reason? So what do i do about that?

  13. Sam123 said:

    Ok i get back pain when riding, use to sit on computer alot with bad sitting postions.

    Bike fit?

    Forget the bike fit for now - learn to sit properly at your computer.

    If your back is farked even before you get on the bike, things ain't going to get better when you make those back muscles work harder...

  14. Sam123 said:

    Went to Docters today he said to go to a Osteopathy to strengthen my back.

    Also he said that i need to touch the floor with my feet?

    Was he talking about your sitting position on the bike or in your suspect computer chair? If its the former then he's wrong - if its the latter then he's correct.

  15. Sam, bet he was talking about the way you sit at your computer. You should have your feet flat on the ground, with knees level or slightly higher than your hips, sitting up in a good chair with lumbar support and a back rest that fits. It's going to take some time and effort to cure your back pain, but it's worth it in the long run. Good luck.

  16. He said it wasn't the way i sit he said he knows lots of teenagers that dont sit at there computer right.

  17. Yes well all of us sit funny in some way or another... at some time or another... and especially with cycling... it is easy to get lower back pain. The soreness of the legs and glutes travels up into our lower back and adds to the tension that is already there. The solution? YOGA. It will keep you riding for as long as possible. It's not necessary to get into the spiritual philosophy of Yoga to reap the benefits. If it is easier to call it stretching and breathing then so be it... but Yoga saved my life and hopefully someone will be inspired to do it. Start with the basic 'sun salutation' every day. Google it then click images. You will find alot of examples. This basic set of Yoga postures will do more than a thousand back surgeries or massage therapists ever could. Happy pedaling 😄

  18. konasunset said:

    This basic set of Yoga postures will do more than a thousand back surgeries or massage therapists ever could. Happy pedaling 😄

    Wow. How amazing. That sounds even better than the cancer cure all, seaweed. I know there is no way you can be exaggerating, and clearly you must be well versed in the myriad back injuries there are. Clearly.

  19. dhk2 said:

    Even with perfect fit, lower back pain isn't all that unusual. I rode with more-or-less constant low back pain for a few years, as a result of old weight-lifting strains and lack of flexibility.
    No need to suffer though. Suggest you work on flexibility and core strength (abs and lower back), and avoid pushing big gears until it clears up. Be patient, take it easy, and with daily stretching and core strengthening, you'll get better.

    I don't disagree with this statement, but proper fit can go a very long way in helping alleviate lower back pain. A shorter cockpit combined with a higher riding position can make a person's back feel better then a 45 minute aggressively positioned ride then after a four hour less aggressively positioned ride. Many of the folks I cycle with, including myself, have had to swallow our pride over aggressive fits and go with the more *plush* position.

    Since flexibility determines where a person nets out on positional comfort, working on one's flexibility is a great idea. However, saying that back pain means the "correction" is mandatory in regards to changing one's flexibility as opposed to the catering of "fit", I think the most important and easy to change facet isn't being given its due attention.

  20. Clearly you aren't being cynical either. Of course there are many cases of back injury that need surgery I can't deny that. But there are also alot of doctors trying to buy a new Porsche that would just as soon see one go under the knife... as see them do some yoga or try something that will relieve the tension from their spine. The most common cause of back pain is spinal compression and muscular tension. So yes. Yoga can do wonders. It is one thing that is like God's (or whatever you would call the Higher Power if you believe in one) owner's manual to the human body. Not only that but it is rooted in breathing and causes oxygen to flow and muscular tension to melt away. No massage therapist can massage the entire body all at once.. but try a simple forward bend and see how far you can go... and if you breathe it out you just did yourself a huge favor right? All I am saying is that it is a simple solution to an ancient problem. If you see no other alternative but surgery or massage or chiropractic fine.... they all have their place. But Yoga... it is an ancient science. Try it and you will be amazed. Thousands of years and millions of athletes agree. Peace, love and harmony 😄

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