Low sodium sport drink?

On 10/4/05 12:23 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Chris M"

Quoted message said:

I am looking for low sodium sport drink that still has 100 to 140
calories per serving (16 oz). If I can cut it in half that would be
great. For now I am simply cutting the mixture in half and doing
without the calories but that means I need to eat more on some rides. I
also prefer the taste of regular strength drinks. For now I am adding
tea to the half strength bottles to add some taste and I am also
cosidering a bit a fruit juice. I know that replacing electrolytes is
important but I think most of the drinks are overkill.

Any advice is appreciated.

Why? If you have a medical reason why you need to be on a low sodium diet
then I can see the reason for your question. But, if you do not have a
medical reason most people need that sodium to replace what is sweated out.
Chuck

Chris M said:

I am looking for low sodium sport drink that still has 100 to 140
calories per serving (16 oz).

Without the added sodium, I'm not sure what would distinguish a "sports
drink" from the sugary [censored] the rest of the world drinks. Maybe the
lack of carbonation?

Probably the most important feature will be what will taste good on a
ride. How about fruit juice? Most are 100-120 calories a cup, so
diluted 50/50... Let's see, a cup of OJ has 2.5 mg sodium. That would
work. Huh?

Chris M said:

I am looking for low sodium sport drink that still has 100 to 140
calories per serving (16 oz). If I can cut it in half that would be

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On 4 Oct 2005 10:23:12 -0700, "Chris M" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I am looking for low sodium sport drink that still has 100 to 140
calories per serving (16 oz). If I can cut it in half that would be
great. For now I am simply cutting the mixture in half and doing
without the calories but that means I need to eat more on some rides. I
also prefer the taste of regular strength drinks. For now I am adding
tea to the half strength bottles to add some taste and I am also
cosidering a bit a fruit juice. I know that replacing electrolytes is
important but I think most of the drinks are overkill.

Any advice is appreciated.

Kool Aid.

JT

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Chris M said:

I am looking for low sodium sport drink that still has 100 to 140
calories per serving (16 oz). If I can cut it in half that would be
great. For now I am simply cutting the mixture in half and doing
without the calories but that means I need to eat more on some rides. I
also prefer the taste of regular strength drinks. For now I am adding
tea to the half strength bottles to add some taste and I am also
cosidering a bit a fruit juice. I know that replacing electrolytes is
important but I think most of the drinks are overkill.

Any advice is appreciated.

Morton's Lite is a light salt sodium substiture

"GATORAID"

10 Tbs Sugar (120 gms)
0.75 tsp Morton's Lite (4.2 gms)
1 Package Kool Aid Sugarlesss
2 liters of water

8 oz gives :

14.2 Gm Carbs
103 mg Socium
121 mg Potassium

Or replace Morton Lite with
1/2 tsp Salt
1/2 tsp Morton's Lite

and this pretty nearly equals Gatorade.....

Cut down even more on the Salt and Morton's Lite if you want to dilute
the minearals even more.

You will find label differences between the mineral contents of various
of the exercise drinks.

You appear to be able to pick the mineral content of the synthetic sweat
replacement that you buy or drink.

Jim

PS Google for Gatoraid or Gatorade Recipe and you will find a few.

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3) Don't Diet Without Supplimental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
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4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

C Wright said:

On 10/4/05 12:23 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Chris M"

Quoted message said:

I am looking for low sodium sport drink that still has 100 to 140
calories per serving (16 oz). If I can cut it in half that would be
great. For now I am simply cutting the mixture in half and doing
without the calories but that means I need to eat more on some rides. I
also prefer the taste of regular strength drinks. For now I am adding
tea to the half strength bottles to add some taste and I am also
cosidering a bit a fruit juice. I know that replacing electrolytes is
important but I think most of the drinks are overkill.

Any advice is appreciated.

Why? If you have a medical reason why you need to be on a low sodium diet
then I can see the reason for your question. But, if you do not have a
medical reason most people need that sodium to replace what is sweated out.
Chuck

You're right, this needs emphasis.

the ultracycling folks at
http://www.ultracycling.com/nutrition/electrolytes.html
say:
"Normal sweat rates can range from 0.75 to 2 Liters/hour,
depending on conditions such as temperature, humidity, pace,
clothing, and the degree of heat acclimation the rider has.
A rate of one Liter/hour is not uncommon for an acclimated
cyclist. At that rate, typical electrolyte loss rates by sweat
are 1,300 mg/hr for sodium, and 230 mg/hr for potassium."

The Amercian College of Sports Medicine position is also
to make up the sweat losses:
http://www.acsm-msse.org/pt/pt-core/template-journal/msse/media/0196.htm

Univ of Washington prof (Phd in Physiology) puts it together
with references:
http://faculty.washington.edu/crowther/Misc/RBC/QandA3.shtml
"When you perspire, your body loses about 900 to 1400 milligrams
of sodium per liter of sweat ...
The sodium content of Gatorade is about 450 milligrams per liter;
for Powerade, it is 225 mg/L. Thus Gatorade does a somewhat better
job of replacing the sodium lost in sweat."

so the OP is wrong: the drinks are NOT overkill, you need more
electrolyte than you get from sports drinks.

another quote from that ultracycling page:
"Consume supplemental salt or electrolytes during the event.
Most sports drinks have sodium levels that are fine for shorter
distances, but inadequate for longer distances."

Edmund Burke with the same thing:
http://www.active.com/story.cfm?story_id=7605&sidebar=32&category=mtnbiking

New England Journal of Medicine article on
"Hyponatremia among Runners in the Boston Marathon"
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/352/15/1550

Ed

Ed said:

C Wright said:

On 10/4/05 12:23 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Chris M"

Quoted message said:

I am looking for low sodium sport drink that still has 100 to 140
calories per serving (16 oz). If I can cut it in half that would be
great. For now I am simply cutting the mixture in half and doing
without the calories but that means I need to eat more on some rides. I
also prefer the taste of regular strength drinks. For now I am adding
tea to the half strength bottles to add some taste and I am also
cosidering a bit a fruit juice. I know that replacing electrolytes is
important but I think most of the drinks are overkill.

Any advice is appreciated.

Why? If you have a medical reason why you need to be on a low sodium diet
then I can see the reason for your question. But, if you do not have a
medical reason most people need that sodium to replace what is sweated out.
Chuck

You're right, this needs emphasis.

the ultracycling folks at
http://www.ultracycling.com/nutrition/electrolytes.html
say:
"Normal sweat rates can range from 0.75 to 2 Liters/hour,
depending on conditions such as temperature, humidity, pace,
clothing, and the degree of heat acclimation the rider has.
A rate of one Liter/hour is not uncommon for an acclimated
cyclist. At that rate, typical electrolyte loss rates by sweat
are 1,300 mg/hr for sodium, and 230 mg/hr for potassium."

The Amercian College of Sports Medicine position is also
to make up the sweat losses:
http://www.acsm-msse.org/pt/pt-core/template-journal/msse/media/0196.htm

Univ of Washington prof (Phd in Physiology) puts it together
with references:
http://faculty.washington.edu/crowther/Misc/RBC/QandA3.shtml
"When you perspire, your body loses about 900 to 1400 milligrams
of sodium per liter of sweat ...
The sodium content of Gatorade is about 450 milligrams per liter;
for Powerade, it is 225 mg/L. Thus Gatorade does a somewhat better
job of replacing the sodium lost in sweat."

so the OP is wrong: the drinks are NOT overkill, you need more
electrolyte than you get from sports drinks.

another quote from that ultracycling page:
"Consume supplemental salt or electrolytes during the event.
Most sports drinks have sodium levels that are fine for shorter
distances, but inadequate for longer distances."

Edmund Burke with the same thing:
http://www.active.com/story.cfm?story_id=7605&sidebar=32&category=mtnbiking

New England Journal of Medicine article on
"Hyponatremia among Runners in the Boston Marathon"
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/352/15/1550

Ed

Didn't Gatorade cut way back on the sodium in their original
formulation because some testers complained about the salty taste and
they could sell more by leaving much of it out? Wasn't it about what
sells the best and most rather than what is ideal for the presumed
purpose, namely sweating active athletes? I doubt the manufacturers
always have our best interest at heart, skeptical curmudgeon that I
am.

If you're sweating, you need to replace *enough* sodium along with
other electrolytes. Make sure you get enough, especially in hot
weather. The homemade Kool Aid formulas are better than many
commercial products, and much cheaper. If you want even faster
absorbtion and delivery than sucrose, use corn sugar (dextrose) which
you can buy cheaply at a local bakery. I bought eighty pounds of the
stuff a few years ago for $25. It will last me forever. Some niche
sports drinks use dextrose as their main selling point.

For example, see
http://www.eload.net/eHome.htm

G.B.

Chris M said:

I am looking for low sodium sport drink that still has 100 to 140
calories per serving (16 oz). If I can cut it in half that would be
great. For now I am simply cutting the mixture in half and doing
without the calories but that means I need to eat more on some rides. I
also prefer the taste of regular strength drinks. For now I am adding
tea to the half strength bottles to add some taste and I am also
cosidering a bit a fruit juice. I know that replacing electrolytes is
important but I think most of the drinks are overkill.

Any advice is appreciated.

Water and couple of bananas.....

A 12 oz. can of Coca Cola is 140 calories. And no sodium.

If you have something against carbonation, try fruit juices.

Quoted message said:

A 12 oz. can of Coca Cola is 140 calories. And no sodium.
If you have something against carbonation, try fruit juices.

When I raced Coke was still a popular sports drink. We defizzed it and
cut it with water.