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  1. Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sam said:

    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    Hmm, canned other stuff too? Tuna, chicken, other vegetables. Beef
    jerky.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sam said:

    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    Beef jerky!

    Home made is best as a lot of commercial ones tend to add sugar.

    Pick up a dehydrator.

    Canned or dry black soy beans are also good.
    Canned chicken or tuna, as well as other canned meats work well too.

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  4. Sam said:

    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    On my bicycle camping trips, I consume low carb dried foods. I dry most
    of the foods myself with a Walmart $39.95 dehydrator.

    Dried vegetables ---
    Fresh or frozen brocolli, dehydrated
    frozen mixed veggies, dehydrated
    dehydrated cauliflower (as fake mashed potatos)
    sun dried tomatos
    Freeze dried mushrooms (Sam's Club)

    Fruit---
    fruit rolls
    Rasins
    dried apricots

    Meats---
    Hamburger, cooked/hot water rinsed/dehydrated on paper towels
    Dried luncheon meats (hard to get the fat off)

    Packaged Meats, commercial
    Tuna, in foil packs
    Salmon, in foil packs
    Hamburger, in foil packs (almost impossible to find and very expensive)
    small tins of meat products
    Various "Hard Salami" or "Summer Sausage" products

    Hard cheeses
    Dried cheeses

    There are some fairly nice books on dried foods, either by those who
    simply like dehydrators or by backpackers who like good tasting food
    rather than the standard freeze dried expensive stuff.

    "Trail Foods"

    "The Back-country Kitchen"

    Look them up at Amazon.com

    Jim

    --
    1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
    2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
    3) Don't Diet Without Supplimental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
    book
    4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

  5. jbuch said:
    Sam said:

    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a
    two week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    You can prepare pasta (including Dreamfields Low Carb) and then
    dehydrate the fully prepared product. It rehydrates easily into edible
    past in cool water in half an hour (and warm it up in a minute), or with
    hot water it is ready in minutes.

    You can dehydrate cooked canned foods:
    Edan Black Soy Beans
    ..... anything else.

    They too rehydrate quickly.

    Quoted message said:


    On my bicycle camping trips, I consume low carb dried foods. I dry most
    of the foods myself with a Walmart $39.95 dehydrator.

    Dried vegetables ---
    Fresh or frozen brocolli, dehydrated
    frozen mixed veggies, dehydrated
    dehydrated cauliflower (as fake mashed potatos)
    sun dried tomatos
    Freeze dried mushrooms (Sam's Club)

    Fruit---
    fruit rolls
    Rasins
    dried apricots

    Meats---
    Hamburger, cooked/hot water rinsed/dehydrated on paper towels
    Dried luncheon meats (hard to get the fat off)

    Packaged Meats, commercial
    Tuna, in foil packs
    Salmon, in foil packs
    Hamburger, in foil packs (almost impossible to find and very expensive)
    small tins of meat products
    Various "Hard Salami" or "Summer Sausage" products

    Hard cheeses
    Dried cheeses

    There are some fairly nice books on dried foods, either by those who
    simply like dehydrators or by backpackers who like good tasting food
    rather than the standard freeze dried expensive stuff.

    "Trail Foods"

    "The Back-country Kitchen"

    Look them up at Amazon.com

    Jim

    --
    1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
    2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
    3) Don't Diet Without Supplimental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
    book
    4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sam said:

    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    Canned black soy beans. Canned tuna and other meats.

    Priscilla

  7. Sam said:


    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    Since you used canned beans as your example, want the
    storage to be dry not the food to be dry, right? So
    there's no need to stick with jerky, nuts and leathery
    dried low carb veggies and expensive vacuum sealed
    freeze dried. I think of my disaster preparedness
    stock as a simple answer. Canning was invented in
    the time of Napoleon (he held a contest with a huge
    prize) for long term food storage so a disaster
    preparedness stock will be mostly canned goods:

    Canned meats - there is a large selection in any grocery.
    Beef (from Argentina not Brazil if available), chicken,
    turkey, fin fish (tuna, salmon, sardine, mackerel),
    shell fish (clam, oyster, crab). Other processed meats
    like spam, treet, vienna sausage and so on.

    Canned veggies - there are far more options than just
    canned green beans even though most of the canned veggies
    are carby. Yellow beans, asparugus, sauerkraut, spinach,
    you name it. About a third of the types of canned veggies
    are low carb and depending on how carby you're willing
    to go it can be as much as half of the non-potato cans
    with types of beans that are canned straight.

    Bottled water - lasts well past the point where it
    merely tastes nasty from the plastic.

    When we lived in Los Angeles we kept an earthquake
    preparedness closet stocked with a couple of boxes of
    canned good, a couple of cases of water, a first aid kit,
    candles and oil lamps. It would not have taken much
    effort to switch all of the canned veggies to low carb.
    I made a point of cycling one of the boxes of canned
    and a case of bottled water back into my regular
    shelves to keep them from getting old. Now here in
    Chicago there are similar stocks in our shelves in the
    garage without a specific shake-proof closet enclosure.

    Then on to stuff that could be stored but that I
    don't generally consider DR/DP stock:

    Dairy - cheeses were first invented to preserve milk.
    The softer the cheese the shorter the shelf life so
    think at least an uncut round of some named type of
    cheese. If you select a cheese hard enough that it needs
    to be grated not sliced it will last a year not just a
    couple of weeks.

    Eggs - eggs keep two weeks without refrigeration. Likely
    not what you had in mind to put into an emergency larder
    but if you have an extended power failure just pull the
    eggs out and they will keep for a while. Powdered eggs
    would be an option when you can find them but yuck not
    until there's a real emergency as far as I'm concerned.

    Dried sausage - salami, pepperoni, ham types, beef summer
    sausage, pemmican.

    When camping I tended to take such low-tech foods. A
    couple rounds of cheese, several sticks of salami, a flat
    of eggs. The fact that most of the camping I've ever
    done has been with anachronistic groups left me not
    included to take the high-tech stuff.

  8. On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 06:56:14 -0400, "Sam" <[email hidden]> Huffed and
    Puffed the following into the madness of usenet:

    Quoted message said:

    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    don't forget that low-carb is also a matter of portion control. so
    when buying canned goods and the item is a moderate to high carb item
    look for the mini cans that serve one.

    Then you won't be tempted to eat the whole can so as to avoid left
    overs or throwing anything out.

    --
    Mâck©®
    Type 1 since 1975
    http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
    http://www.diabetic-talk.org
    http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the
    President, or that we are to stand by the President
    right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
    but is morally treasonable to the American public."
    ....Theodore Roosevelt

    (o o)
    --ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

    "I don't know half of you
    half as well as I should like;
    and I like less than half of you
    half as well as you deserve."

    Jesus never hated anyone.

  9. "Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two


    week

    Quoted message said:

    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    Canned or pouch fish, canned ham, chicken, corned beef or turkey (watch for
    added sugar though), bottled asparagus spears (the pickled ones still have
    crunch!), dill pickles, protein powder, Kraft cheese sticks, dried green
    beans, marinated antipasta selections (roasted peppers, aubergine, semi
    dried tomatoes, olives, mushrooms etc), canned mushrooms, some of the
    prepared stews such as braised steak & onion or chilli con carne can also be
    reasonably low carb (read your labels). Basically take some time to browse
    through the canned goods aisle and read some labels, you'd be surprised!
    I put together a 2 week supply with our 'emergency kit' in the panic after
    9/11 when we were urged to take precautions in case of a terror attack and
    was surprised at how much in the way of long shelf life LC I could actually
    find.

  10. "Ma¢k" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    ....

    Quoted message said:

    don't forget that low-carb is also a matter of portion control. so
    when buying canned goods and the item is a moderate to high carb item
    look for the mini cans that serve one.

    Then you won't be tempted to eat the whole can so as to avoid left
    overs or throwing anything out.


    Good advice.

    OTOH; if you're in a survival situation, I'd submit that the number and
    amount of carbs is going to be relatively low on the list of things that
    matter. I'd favor a storage food mix geared towards longevity, nutrition,
    and variety (trust me, a couple of days eating the same "rations" gets old
    fast).

    Remember, you can always go back to your LC ways when the survival aspect of
    the reason for eating that food goes away...(:-o)!

    DustyB
    --
    "After a few more flashes in the pan, we shall hear but very little more of
    Edison, or his electric lamp. Every claim he makes has been tested and
    proved impracticable."- New York Times, Jan 1, 1880; as wrong as they are
    today.

  11. On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:46:31 -0700, "Dusty Bleher"
    <[email hidden]> Huffed and Puffed the following
    into the madness of usenet:

    Quoted message said:

    "Ma¢k" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    ...

    Quoted message said:

    don't forget that low-carb is also a matter of portion control. so
    when buying canned goods and the item is a moderate to high carb item
    look for the mini cans that serve one.

    Then you won't be tempted to eat the whole can so as to avoid left
    overs or throwing anything out.


    Good advice.

    OTOH; if you're in a survival situation, I'd submit that the number and
    amount of carbs is going to be relatively low on the list of things that
    matter. I'd favor a storage food mix geared towards longevity, nutrition,
    and variety (trust me, a couple of days eating the same "rations" gets old
    fast).

    Remember, you can always go back to your LC ways when the survival aspect of
    the reason for eating that food goes away...(:-o)!

    DustyB

    in a survival situation where cooking and storing unused foods becomes
    part of the equation portion dcontrol becomes even more important.

    --
    Mâck©®
    Type 1 since 1975
    http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
    http://www.diabetic-talk.org
    http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the
    President, or that we are to stand by the President
    right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
    but is morally treasonable to the American public."
    ....Theodore Roosevelt

    (o o)
    --ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

    "I don't know half of you
    half as well as I should like;
    and I like less than half of you
    half as well as you deserve."

    Jesus never hated anyone.

  12. "Dusty Bleher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OTOH; if you're in a survival situation, I'd submit that the number and
    amount of carbs is going to be relatively low on the list of things that
    matter. I'd favor a storage food mix geared towards longevity, nutrition,
    and variety (trust me, a couple of days eating the same "rations" gets old
    fast).

    Remember, you can always go back to your LC ways when the survival aspect


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the reason for eating that food goes away...(:-o)!

    This is very true. When I was living in NY, we had a power outage during
    the summer that lasted for several days. Then even after the power came
    back on, our food supply was limited because the stores all lost their fresh
    and frozen foods as well and they hadn't restocked.

    Luckily I had just been to the grocery store and was in the middle of
    putting away the food when the power went off. We were able to eat some of
    the refrigerated stuff that didn't require cooking for a day or two. After
    that, when the high temperatures we had, I had to throw the rest away.

    We soon became miserable in the high heat with no way of cooling off. Even
    the water coming from the tap was warm. We sucked down a ton of warm,
    bottled water. Yes, we could have used tap water, but the water where we
    lived looked a bit suspect and we preferred not to drink it.

    After the first meal or two, I didn't feel much like eating at all.
    Everyone was hot, cranky and miserable and there was no end to this in
    sight. At first, we had peanut butter sandwiches with the bread I had just
    bought. But that bread soon went moldy in the heat. That left crackers
    that could be eaten with peanut butter or little wedges of locally made
    cheese. It wasn't the tastiest stuff, but it came in individually wrapped
    wedges and had a shelf life of a year or so without needing refrigeration.
    I wasn't really doing low carb at this point, but if I needed to cut back,
    I'd have just one piece of bread or a cracker or two with a lot of protein
    on it.

    I also had a few packages of those little tuna salad things with crackers.
    Had some nuts. Had beef jerky. Sometimes ate condensed soup straight from
    the can. Not necessarily the most tasty thing, but I remember my biology
    teacher telling me that it was a good emergency food. Mostly I ate canned
    vegetables such as green beans. I bought a lot of little cans with pop
    tops. We also had some stuff like boxes of raisins and fruit snacks.

    With the high heat, the main concern was staying hydrated. Water was more
    important to us than food. Luckily I had bought several cases of bottled
    water. I remember drinking and drinking and eating only enough food to keep
    me from going hypo.

    In other types of emergency situations, you might be much more active than
    usual. So it would pay to keep some carb rich food as well, just in case
    you need it!

    --
    See my webpage:
    http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm

  13. "Ma¢k" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in a survival situation where cooking and storing unused foods becomes
    part of the equation portion dcontrol becomes even more important.

    Maybe, but I suppose that depends on the situation. If you knew the
    situation was to be short lived, then having high BG for a day or two would
    be tolerable. But the main concern for many of us would be prevention of
    hypos. You don't want to be fainting in an emergency situation.

    My high school science class made the local newspaper when they went on a
    camping trip that went awry. I didn't go because I had to work. But I
    heard about it on the news. One silly girl took along a ton of makeup,
    several changes of clothing, and an electric hairdryer, even though they had
    been told they would be in total wilderness with no bathrooms or
    conveniences for the weekend. She could not keep up with the others because
    of all the stuff she was hauling. She also failed to tell the teacher that
    she suffered from reactive hypoglycemia.

    The teacher got word that a bad storm was coming their way and they needed
    to turn around immediately and head back. They started to do so when the
    girl had a hypo. Not only did she faint, but she got injured as she went
    down. She couldn't walk. The teacher had to make a decision fast! He sent
    the two most experienced hikers on to find a cabin they had passed in the
    hopes of getting help.

    Meanwhile, the rest of the class became stranded as the rain came and the
    low ground they were on got flooded. Luckily, the two boys made it to the
    cabin and were able to get help. But the stranded class was running out of
    food. They had brought enough food with them for two days, but not quite
    enough for a third day. And then there was the injured, hypoglycemic girl.
    The others had to make sure she got enough to eat first before they took a
    few bites.

    The teacher gave us quite a lecture after that. Mainly he mentioned the way
    the girl had packed her backpack. She took along anything and everything
    she thought she might possibly need, but not a scrap of food.

    I know now to take some food along with me wherever I go! Some people think
    this is silly, but for a diabetic, it's vital. My husband and his friend
    once took a day hike near the same area where my biology class had gotten
    stranded. They had packed a lunch, but nothing else. I was worried that
    they didn't have enough food and insisted that they take some power bars
    along that I had bought for them. They weren't going to take them, but I
    sneaked them into one of their backpacks.

    Sure enough as they got high enough up into the mountains, they discovered
    it was snowing. And foolishly they continued on, thinking this was just a
    brief, passing storm. But no. The higher they climbed, the worse trouble
    they got in. They were not dressed for snow and they soon became exhausted.
    Sitting there in the cold didn't help. The sun began to set and they ran
    out of energy. At that point, they were very glad I had put those power
    bars. They said they tasted really awful, but they did provide them enough
    energy to get back down the mountain before hypothermia set in.

    Neither of them have diabetes. But just imagine if they did! I don't think
    I'd want to.

    --
    See my webpage:
    http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm

  14. Pasta is not low carb.

    --
    You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

    "jbuch" <jbuch@CUT_HERE.revealed.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    jbuch said:
    Sam said:

    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two
    week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    You can prepare pasta (including Dreamfields Low Carb) and then dehydrate
    the fully prepared product. It rehydrates easily into edible past in cool
    water in half an hour (and warm it up in a minute), or with hot water it
    is ready in minutes.

    You can dehydrate cooked canned foods:
    Edan Black Soy Beans
    .... anything else.

    They too rehydrate quickly.

    Quoted message said:


    On my bicycle camping trips, I consume low carb dried foods. I dry most
    of the foods myself with a Walmart $39.95 dehydrator.

    Dried vegetables ---
    Fresh or frozen brocolli, dehydrated
    frozen mixed veggies, dehydrated
    dehydrated cauliflower (as fake mashed potatos)
    sun dried tomatos
    Freeze dried mushrooms (Sam's Club)

    Fruit---
    fruit rolls
    Rasins
    dried apricots

    Meats---
    Hamburger, cooked/hot water rinsed/dehydrated on paper towels
    Dried luncheon meats (hard to get the fat off)

    Packaged Meats, commercial
    Tuna, in foil packs
    Salmon, in foil packs
    Hamburger, in foil packs (almost impossible to find and very expensive)
    small tins of meat products
    Various "Hard Salami" or "Summer Sausage" products

    Hard cheeses
    Dried cheeses

    There are some fairly nice books on dried foods, either by those who
    simply like dehydrators or by backpackers who like good tasting food
    rather than the standard freeze dried expensive stuff.

    "Trail Foods"

    "The Back-country Kitchen"

    Look them up at Amazon.com

    Jim

    --
    1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
    2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
    3) Don't Diet Without Supplimental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
    book
    4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

  15. JC Der Koenig said:

    Pasta is not low carb.

    Robotic reply, no intelligence required.

    --
    1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
    2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
    3) Don't Diet Without Supplimental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
    book
    4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

  16. Stuffing pasta down your throat while claiming to be on a low carb diet
    indicates no intelligence.

    --
    You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

    "jbuch" <jbuch@CUT_HERE.revealed.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    Pasta is not low carb.

    Robotic reply, no intelligence required.

    --
    1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
    2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
    3) Don't Diet Without Supplimental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
    book
    4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

  17. Sam said:

    Most of my diet is fresh or frozen food, but I would like to make a two week
    dry storage of low carb foods. Any suggestions... besides canned green
    beans?

    I keep a minimum of a months food and water supply, but many of my
    items are from before my diabetes diagnosis, so not low carb.
    Therefor, I'm presently rebuilding my stocks with low-carb items, and
    have a few suggestions:

    Beef jerky
    dehydrated eggs
    canned soups that aren't too high in carbs (check labels)
    Soy based low-carb pasta (beware of dreamfields; it acts as high-carb
    for some people)
    Nuts of most any kind
    dried fruits (to be eaten in small portions, as they are high-carb)
    low-carb meal replacement shakes

    I'll be reading the rest of this thread for other ideas, thanks for
    posting!

  18. JC Der Koenig said:

    Stuffing pasta down your throat while claiming to be on a


    low carb

    Quoted message said:

    diet indicates no intelligence.

    There is stuffing and there is eating a small quantity. A
    slice of pumpkin or a whole pumpkin?

  19. Your weight indicates stuffing.

    --
    You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

    "Ozgirl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    Stuffing pasta down your throat while claiming to be on a


    low carb

    Quoted message said:

    diet indicates no intelligence.

    There is stuffing and there is eating a small quantity. A
    slice of pumpkin or a whole pumpkin?

  20. JC Der Koenig said:

    Your weight indicates stuffing.

    My weight? Sorry precious, at 5'7" and 62 kg, I don't think
    I have a problem.

    Quoted message said:

    "Ozgirl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    Stuffing pasta down your throat while claiming to be on


    a low carb

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    diet indicates no intelligence.

    There is stuffing and there is eating a small quantity. A
    slice of pumpkin or a whole pumpkin?

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