Low Carb diet and running?

Robert Megee said:

What are the pros and cons of low carb ( less than 30carbs per day)
and running?

The con is that you would probably run slower. I do not see any other
cons. I have been on a low carb diet for one year and I run quite
often, and enjoy running, just slow (9 minutes per mile). I never
liked to run fast, and running fast is not a big priority for me. For
some reason, my knee pain went away soon after I started low
carbing. My weight, which is normal, did not change at all, so
cessation of knee pain cannot be explained by weight loss. I could
never run as much, per week, as I do these days. Perhaps disappearance
of my knee pain is a coincidence, but I find that unlikely.

i

Ignoramus27279 said:

My weight, which is normal, did not change at all, so cessation
of knee pain cannot be explained by weight loss.

So Ig, why'd you start eating like a caveman if not for weight loss?
You're not gonna tell us you hoped against hope it would be the answer
to your knee pain and you got miraculously lucky, are you?

Or was it that you actually moved to an actual cave, and now wear
nothing but a loincloth and hunt your dinner with a heavy club?

Charlie Pendejo said:

Ignoramus27279 said:

My weight, which is normal, did not change at all, so cessation
of knee pain cannot be explained by weight loss.

So Ig, why'd you start eating like a caveman if not for weight loss?
You're not gonna tell us you hoped against hope it would be the answer
to your knee pain and you got miraculously lucky, are you?

I lost about 48 lbs in 2003, simply by eating less and exercising
(walking). That was great for me in many ways, but, unfortunately, I
was hungry almost all the time. That was annoying.

So, in July 2004 I decided to adopt a low carb diet, in hopes that it
could help me get rid of that constant hunger. It reduced my hunger, I
now can eat pretty much as much as I want, which works out to about as
many calories as I was eating before LC.

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Or was it that you actually moved to an actual cave, and now wear
nothing but a loincloth and hunt your dinner with a heavy club?

you have an amazing sense of humor!

i

Ignoramus27279 said:

For
some reason, my knee pain went away soon after I started low
carbing. My weight, which is normal, did not change at all, so
cessation of knee pain cannot be explained by weight loss.

It stopped because you slowed down. Running fast causes injuries.

In article <[email hidden]>,

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It stopped because you slowed down. Running fast causes injuries.

Perhaps but sugars are inflammatory agents.

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:50:37 -0700, DadatHome <[email hidden]>

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In article <[email hidden]>,

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It stopped because you slowed down. Running fast causes injuries.

Perhaps but sugars are inflammatory agents.

Please! So everyone who eats sugar swells up like a balloon and can't
run? You know this nonsense is right up there with the loch ness
monster. EVERYTHING I repeat EVERYTHING is toxic and has side effects,
but our bodys can usually compensate.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 03:58:00 -0400, The Bill Rodgers <[email hidden]>

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:50:37 -0700, DadatHome <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

It stopped because you slowed down. Running fast causes injuries.

Perhaps but sugars are inflammatory agents.

Please! So everyone who eats sugar swells up like a balloon and can't
run? You know this nonsense is right up there with the loch ness
monster. EVERYTHING I repeat EVERYTHING is toxic and has side effects,
but our bodys can usually compensate.

the low-carbers may need to check on the high-fat link
to polyps. as yet, i'm sure, it's not proven, but the
suggestion might be disturbing to some.

personally, if I were interested in this, instead of asking
about 30 grams a day, i would just do it. you'll find out
pretty quick if you like that diet or not. i eat 3 to 4 hundred
carb grams a day and i can gain or lose weight at will.
it's easy. i see the low-carb diet as a holy grail. people
with no self-control need external help. i have never
seen an over-weight person who doesn't over-eat daily.

i recently dropped a few pounds and it was funny
when i added some sugar to my strawberries. the comments
that it was white death and i'm gonna get fat! i just
told them "i can use the empty calories".
....thehick

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The con is that you would probably run slower. I do not see any other
cons. I have been on a low carb diet for one year and I run quite
often, and enjoy running, just slow (9 minutes per mile). I never
liked to run fast, and running fast is not a big priority for me. For
some reason, my knee pain went away soon after I started low
carbing. My weight, which is normal, did not change at all, so
cessation of knee pain cannot be explained by weight loss. I could
never run as much, per week, as I do these days. Perhaps disappearance
of my knee pain is a coincidence, but I find that unlikely.

A long time ago I was trying a low-fat diet. As soon as I went off
that I noticed that all my joints felt much better. I mentioned this
to my doc and she said that it was like lubricating a car. Perhaps
the higher fats in your low-carb diet helped lube your knees.
I'm glad to hear that you have combined low-carb and running.
I've recently started running. I'm over weight and plan on doing a
low carb diet too.

Robert

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frank-in-toronto said:

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 03:58:00 -0400, The Bill Rodgers <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:50:37 -0700, DadatHome <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] wrote:

> It stopped because you slowed down. Running fast causes injuries.

Perhaps but sugars are inflammatory agents.

Please! So everyone who eats sugar swells up like a balloon and can't
run? You know this nonsense is right up there with the loch ness
monster. EVERYTHING I repeat EVERYTHING is toxic and has side effects,
but our bodys can usually compensate.

the low-carbers may need to check on the high-fat link
to polyps. as yet, i'm sure, it's not proven, but the
suggestion might be disturbing to some.

personally, if I were interested in this, instead of asking
about 30 grams a day, i would just do it. you'll find out
pretty quick if you like that diet or not. i eat 3 to 4 hundred
carb grams a day and i can gain or lose weight at will.
it's easy. i see the low-carb diet as a holy grail. people
with no self-control need external help. i have never
seen an over-weight person who doesn't over-eat daily.

If you are referring to me, I have plenty of self control, I lost 50
lbs by eating less and kept it off for almost a year by eating less
(and walking, since I could not run every day). But, even with self
control, being hungry all the time was not fun.

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i recently dropped a few pounds and it was funny when i added some
sugar to my strawberries. the comments that it was white death and
i'm gonna get fat! i just told them "i can use the empty calories".
...thehick

I am happy for you. I am not like that, unfortunately.

i

Robert Megee said:

Quoted message said:

The con is that you would probably run slower. I do not see any other
cons. I have been on a low carb diet for one year and I run quite
often, and enjoy running, just slow (9 minutes per mile). I never
liked to run fast, and running fast is not a big priority for me. For
some reason, my knee pain went away soon after I started low
carbing. My weight, which is normal, did not change at all, so
cessation of knee pain cannot be explained by weight loss. I could
never run as much, per week, as I do these days. Perhaps disappearance
of my knee pain is a coincidence, but I find that unlikely.

Quoted message said:

A long time ago I was trying a low-fat diet. As soon as I went off
that I noticed that all my joints felt much better. I mentioned this
to my doc and she said that it was like lubricating a car. Perhaps
the higher fats in your low-carb diet helped lube your knees.
I'm glad to hear that you have combined low-carb and running.
I've recently started running. I'm over weight and plan on doing a
low carb diet too.

Thank you. That's an interesting story. I am not sure what to suspect
regarding my knee improvement. Any guesses will remain just that,
guesses. My own guess is that perhaps the wheat was inflammatory, but
it is just as good as any other guess.

I do not know if you are seriously overweight, or just a little
overweight. Be careful with running if you are seriously overweight,
try not to increase your running too quickly, etc.

i

frank-in-toronto said:

i have never
seen an over-weight person who doesn't over-eat daily

I've seen plenty.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:53:55 -0500, Robert Megee <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

A long time ago I was trying a low-fat diet. As soon as I went off
that I noticed that all my joints felt much better. I mentioned this
to my doc and she said that it was like lubricating a car. Perhaps
the higher fats in your low-carb diet helped lube your knees.

I've read some pretty stupid posts on here, and this one is right up
there...

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:53:55 -0500, Robert Megee <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

A long time ago I was trying a low-fat diet. As soon as I went off
that I noticed that all my joints felt much better. I mentioned this
to my doc and she said that it was like lubricating a car. Perhaps
the higher fats in your low-carb diet helped lube your knees.

Oh, and get a new dr, NOW!

Ignoramus27279 said:

My own guess is that perhaps the wheat was inflammatory,

LMAO!

Robert Megee said:

What are the pros and cons of low carb ( less than 30carbs per day)
and running?

Robert Megee

I follow a low carb diet of about 80-100 grams of carbohydrate a day to
control diabetes. I also train for sprint triathlons and centuries on
the bicycle. I'm 50 years old and have never been an athlete before, so
the fact that I am slow is not due only to low carb. I think I have
trained my body to be better than average at burning fat, but my key
approach is to eat carbohydrates when I exercise and know I will burn
them off right away. For example, I normally eat a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich during the bike leg of a triathlon (it helps that nothing
upsets my stomach). That gives me the fuel I need for more intense
exercise. Some people swear by carbohydrates right after exercise as
well but it doesn't work for me, my blood sugar goes up.

Pam
http://deeplanguage.blogspot.com

"pam_in_sc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: Robert Megee wrote:
: > What are the pros and cons of low carb ( less than 30carbs per day)
: > and running?
: >
: > Robert Megee
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:
: I follow a low carb diet of about 80-100 grams of carbohydrate a day to
: control diabetes. I also train for sprint triathlons and centuries on
: the bicycle. I'm 50 years old and have never been an athlete before, so
: the fact that I am slow is not due only to low carb. I think I have
: trained my body to be better than average at burning fat, but my key
: approach is to eat carbohydrates when I exercise and know I will burn
: them off right away. For example, I normally eat a peanut butter and
: jelly sandwich during the bike leg of a triathlon (it helps that nothing
: upsets my stomach). That gives me the fuel I need for more intense
: exercise. Some people swear by carbohydrates right after exercise as
: well but it doesn't work for me, my blood sugar goes up.
:
: Pam
: http://deeplanguage.blogspot.com
:

Why are you eating a pb&j for a sprint triathlon? They're so quick you
really don't need to eat. Maybe a little cytomax in the water bottle...
But eating during a sprint tri? Hmmm...You'd have to be pretty slow to need
it.

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I do not know if you are seriously overweight, or just a little
overweight. Be careful with running if you are seriously overweight,
try not to increase your running too quickly, etc.

I've got a bit of a spar tire that I'd like to loose. Not as bad as
some but more than I like.
In my other post I received just what you are saying that at my age
(52) and with knees that are a bit on the weak side ( too many years
of karate) I should make sure to get very good shoes and not worry
about speed. I bought a count-down timer and plan on running running
for a certain amount of time. That way I can vary my route and get
the workout that I want.

Robert

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:26:51 -0400, The Bill Rodgers <[email hidden]>

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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:53:55 -0500, Robert Megee <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

A long time ago I was trying a low-fat diet. As soon as I went off
that I noticed that all my joints felt much better. I mentioned this
to my doc and she said that it was like lubricating a car. Perhaps
the higher fats in your low-carb diet helped lube your knees.

I've read some pretty stupid posts on here, and this one is right up
there...

Sorry. I don't remember the name of the organic fatty acid that my
doctor mention that a zero-fat (or very low fat) diet would deplete
from the body but she said it acted like a lubercant for the joints.
I do know that every joint in my body ached and after I resumed eating
fats, the ache went away. Is this better?

Robert

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:27:59 -0400, pam_in_sc <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Robert Megee said:

What are the pros and cons of low carb ( less than 30carbs per day)
and running?

Robert Megee

I follow a low carb diet of about 80-100 grams of carbohydrate a day to
control diabetes. I also train for sprint triathlons and centuries on
the bicycle. I'm 50 years old and have never been an athlete before, so
the fact that I am slow is not due only to low carb. I think I have
trained my body to be better than average at burning fat, but my key
approach is to eat carbohydrates when I exercise and know I will burn
them off right away. For example, I normally eat a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich during the bike leg of a triathlon (it helps that nothing
upsets my stomach). That gives me the fuel I need for more intense
exercise. Some people swear by carbohydrates right after exercise as
well but it doesn't work for me, my blood sugar goes up.

Pam
http://deeplanguage.blogspot.com

Thanks for the response. No one has said it is something that
shouldnt be done or even was any kind of a problem. I'm going to
give it a try.

Robert