Lots Of Accusations Flying Around.



[email protected] (Jan) wrote:

>>Subject: Re: Lots Of Accusations Flying Around.
>>From: [email protected]
>>Date: 1/1/2004 5:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>>
>>If The Good Doctor isn't a Ph.d, why is he using that title?

>
>He earned it. He has a Ph.D.


Where did he get it from? He didn't have it when he arrived in the
USA, and it has not been granted by any US university. Or are you
going to claim the University Microfilms (who list every US PhD since
1861) are part of Evil Organised Somethingorother?

>>I believe YOU posted he HAD a Ph.d

>
>I posted a URL.


Where Burzynski said that he has a PhD. That doesn't mean he has one.

>> So where is it from & in what year?

>
>> Is that
>>such a hard question to answer? Obviously you don't know the answer.
>>Dumb of you to make (or even repeat) that statement then without
>>knowledge. Maybe you should call him.

>
>I don't really care, where he got his Ph.D. His methods work


Jan doesn't care if Burzynski got his PhD in a packet of Rice Bubbles
but she has the gall to demean people with real degrees. I think the
word is "hypocrite".

>He is a member of several organizations in good standing.


One of which is the hated AMA, who are just in it for the money and to
destroy alternative medicine. Tell us again, Jan, about how they are
in bed with the ADA to deny the dangers of mercury. Tell us again how
the AMA was prevented from destroying chiropractors. Tell us how you
respect this organisation so much that membership is as good as a
reference from a priest.

>That's all that matters to me, if you want to know, YOU call him.
>
>Or did you just want to call me dumb??


No need for us to do it.

>http://www.cancercontrolsociety.com/bio2002/burzynski.html
>
>STANISLAW R. BURZYNSKI, M.D., Ph.D. was born in Poland. He graduated first in
>his medical school class from the Medical Academy in Lublin, Poland in 1967. In
>1968, he earned his Ph.D. in Biochemistry, being the youngest person ever to
>receive this Degree in conjunction with his Medical Degree. Dr. Burzynski did
>his Internship and Residency in Lublin.


Where did he get the PhD that he lists after his name? Why did he call
it D.Msc when he first arrived in the USA? Is a one-year D.Msc
equivalent to a three, four or five year PhD?

>http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/pdfdraft/7_therap/fs7_43.pdf
>
>http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/7_43.htm
>
>http://www.cancerguide.org/burz_cit.txt
>
>http://www.cancerguide.org/pleverett_story.html
>
>Jan


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"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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snip

> Or did you just want to call me dumb??


it is called a reflex.

>
> http://www.cancercontrolsociety.com/bio2002/burzynski.html
>
> STANISLAW R. BURZYNSKI, M.D., Ph.D. was born in Poland. He graduated first

in
> his medical school class from the Medical Academy in Lublin, Poland in

1967. In
> 1968, he earned his Ph.D. in Biochemistry, being the youngest person ever

to
> receive this Degree in conjunction with his Medical Degree. Dr. Burzynski

did
> his Internship and Residency in Lublin.


This paragraph proves that he is a liar, since the school acknowledges that
they did not grant Ph.D.s in conjunction with mD degrees at the time.

'nuf said.
 
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> So you admit you don't know & you're just repeating something that you
> don't know. I guess without being able to cut & paste that information
> off the internet, you're up a creek without a paddle.


Wrong. She would be in the sandbox without a spoon.

> As far as being a member in good standing of various professional
> organizations, that frequently means little more than paying annual
> dues, but it always impresses on a resume.


Good point.
 
"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: Lots Of Accusations Flying Around.
> >From: [email protected]
> >Date: 1/1/2004 8:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
> >
> >So you admit you don't know & you're just repeating something that you
> >don't know

>
> Are you making things up??


She isn't, but you are selectively snipping tochange meaning again.

Here is what you snipped:

"I guess without being able to cut & paste that information
off the internet, you're up a creek without a paddle."

Which means that Kathy knows what she is talking about. She has got your
number (zero).

> Catch it from Peter Bowditch?
 
[email protected] wrote:

>Oh my Bleeding Heart. Now the Communist Conspiracy. What a B.S.er.
>Tell me, Jan, why was he still using D.Msc. THREE years into the United
>States & then it changed to a Ph.d.? Again, Which Institution made him
>a Ph.d.? He's still dancing around that subject as far as I'm
>concerned.


Please quote what you are replying to, Kathy. If you don't it is too
easy for certain people to twist what you say.

No institution granted a PhD to Burzynski. He talks big about the head
of the school telling him that his one year extension course resulted
in a PhD but the school officials say that the degree was not awarded
by that institution at that time. At the university I attended it took
more work to get an Honours upgrade for an undergraduate degree than
Burzynski had to do to get his D.Msc. Note - D.Msc not PhD.

The fact that people living in Poland in the 1960s who held
responsible government jobs were members of the communist party is no
surprise to anyone who knows anything about history. Calling them
communists is, however, a good smear tactic if you are trying to
impress the sort of halfwits who think that religious or political
beliefs have a bearing on reality. You know who I mean - people who
would use the word "atheist" as a term of abuse.

Reality is that Burzynski did a single year project which allowed his
medical school to issue him with a qualification abbreviated to D.Msc.
He has never done the work necessary to obtain a PhD, in either Poland
or the United States. His use of the degree title "PhD" would be
considered ingenuous if it was not completely obvious that he knows he
is lying and when faced with the truth in the form of official
statements from the educational institution concerned he resorts to ad
hominem and more lying.

If he lies about his "PhD", then what else does he lie about?

And, Jan, Saul Green has a real PhD. This makes him qualified to
judge.

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"Peter Bowditch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> And, Jan, Saul Green has a real PhD. This makes him qualified to
> judge.
>


I do not have a PhD. But I feel qualified to know quackery when I see it.
Degrees and specialized education are necessary to DO science, but any
intelligent person who is willing to read extensively can be scientifically
literate. One does not need an MD or PhD to know enough about how the immune
system functions to see through the claims of the supplement salesmen. You
do not need a degree in toxicology to know that promises of universal
"detox" are bunkum.

I do not feel qualified to challenge Orac on cancer therapy. My humble BS,
though, combined with years of independent learning, qualifies me to call
DrCeePhD a fool and Hulda Clark a quack.

--Rich