In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration voted to lift the ban on silicone implants, which was brought in a decade earlier when a number of women and their lawyers claimed that the implants had made the women ill. There was a lot of what you might call consequential damage. The lawyers won a record $4.25 billion settlement against the implant manufacturers, causing the bankruptcy of Dow Corning. Marcia Angell, then executive editor of the New England Journal of Medicine and now teaching at Harvard Medical School, wrote first a scathing editorial on the FDA's decision and then a book. Science on Trial, which contended that there was no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women. Angell was in turn raked over the coals by everyone except the manufacturers. Studies of breast implants, however, have shown they do not cause the damage claimed.
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In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration
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to lift the ban on silicone implants, which was brought in a decade
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when a number of women and their lawyers claimed that the implants had
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the women ill. There was a lot of what you might call consequential
damage.
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The lawyers won a record $4.25 billion settlement against the implant manufacturers, causing the bankruptcy of Dow Corning. Marcia Angell, then executive editor of the New England Journal of Medicine and now teaching
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Harvard Medical School, wrote first a scathing editorial on the FDA's decision and then a book. Science on Trial, which contended that there was no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women. Angell
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in turn raked over the coals by everyone except the manufacturers. Studies of breast implants, however, have shown they do not cause the damage claimed.
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The "studies" might be flawed, like so many "studies".The war is not over yet boo boo.
You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq with WMD.... Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely on their political and monetary might and power when they meet their maker..
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In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended that there
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no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
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In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended that
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no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq with WMD.... Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely on their political and monetary might and power when they meet their maker..
So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed the women?
In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended that
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was no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
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You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq with WMD.... Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely on their political and monetary might and power when they meet their maker..
The panel voted. However the ban was not lifted and more long term studies were recommended.
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In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended that
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was no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
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You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq with WMD.... Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely on their political and monetary might and power when they meet their maker..
The panel voted. However the ban was not lifted and more long term studies were recommended.
So it looks like the FDA guys will "meet their maker" with clear consciences about the breast implant issues. I'm not so sure about Bush, however.
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In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended that
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was
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no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq with WMD.... Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely on their political and monetary might and power when they meet their maker..
So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed the women?
Please post it.
--Rich
How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with. You rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you have some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
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In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended that
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was no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
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You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq with WMD.... Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely on their political and monetary might and power when they meet their maker..
The panel voted. However the ban was not lifted and more long term studies were recommended.
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"Rich.Andrews" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and > Drug
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was > no evidence backing the claim that the implants > harmed the women.
You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq with WMD.... Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely on their political and monetary might and power when they meet their maker..
So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed the women?
Please post it.
--Rich
How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with. You rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you have some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
At one time, I was expressing the same narrow minded opinion as you are. However, after doing quite a bit of reading I came to realize that breast implants for post-op surgical cancer patients are very important, as they help speed and improve recovery.
However, I do not believe in female, or male, surgical enhancement merely for the sake of the enhancement. I like women to be all natural.
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"Rich.Andrews" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and > Drug
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> voted to lift the ban on silicone > implants......which contended that
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was > no evidence backing the claim that the implants > harmed the women.
You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq with WMD.... Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely on their political and monetary might and power when they meet their maker..
So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed the women?
Please post it.
--Rich
How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with. You rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you have some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to me to make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in their bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever to do with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for injury to women who have implants of that material.
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"[censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... > > "Rich.Andrews" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and > > Drug
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women?
Please post it.
--Rich
How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with.
You
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rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you
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some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
At one time, I was expressing the same narrow minded opinion as you are. However, after doing quite a bit of reading I came to realize that breast implants for post-op surgical cancer patients are very important, as they help speed and improve recovery.
However, I do not believe in female, or male, surgical enhancement merely for the sake of the enhancement. I like women to be all natural.
Well, at least we agree on the important things. mdd
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"[censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... > > "Rich.Andrews" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and > > Drug
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So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed
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women?
Please post it.
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How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with.
You
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rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you
have
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some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to me
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make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in their bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever to do with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for injury
to
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women who have implants of that material.
--Rich
Perhaps you might have a small amount of silicone implanted somewhere in YOUR body, just to show your good faith, and report to us in a few years about your opinions.
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"Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9tKdnRtT26gROyHdRVn- [email hidden]... > > "[censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > "]news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Rich.Andrews" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > message > > > In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food > > > and Drug
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> > > > You mean the same way as Bush won the war by > > invading Iraq with WMD.... Fortunately he and > > members of the FDA won't be able to rely on their > > political and monetary might and power when they > > meet their maker.. > > So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that > implants harmed
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> women? > > Please post it. > > --Rich > > How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with.
You
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rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you
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some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to
me
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to
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make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in their bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever to
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with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for
injury
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women who have implants of that material.
--Rich
Perhaps you might have a small amount of silicone implanted somewhere in YOUR body, just to show your good faith, and report to us in a few years about your opinions.
No, thank you. I have some titanium, will that do?
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"mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... > > "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > "]news:[email hidden]... > > > > "[censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > "]news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Rich.Andrews" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > message > > > > In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food > > > > and Drug Administration > > > > voted to lift the ban on silicone > > > > implants......which
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> rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on > women anyway? Do you
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> some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? > Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to
me
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make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in
their
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bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever
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with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for
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women who have implants of that material.
--Rich
Perhaps you might have a small amount of silicone implanted somewhere in YOUR body, just to show your good faith, and report to us in a few years about your opinions.
No, thank you. I have some titanium, will that do?
