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Looks like science won.

Rich.Andrews · 2004-06-01T02:36:24+00:00

In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration voted to lift the ban on silicone implants, which was brought in a decade earlier when a number of women and their lawyers claimed that the implants had made the women ill. There was a lot of what you might call consequential damage. The lawyers won a record $4.25 billion settlement against the implant manufacturers, causing the bankruptcy of Dow Corning. Marcia Angell, then executive editor of the New England Journal of Medicine and now teaching at Harvard Medical School, wrote first a scathing editorial on the FDA's decision and then a book. Science on Trial, which contended that there was no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women. Angell was in turn raked over the coals by everyone except the manufacturers. Studies of breast implants, however, have shown they do not cause the damage claimed. -- Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

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1 June 2004, 02:36 UTC #1

In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration voted
to lift the ban on silicone implants, which was brought in a decade earlier
when a number of women and their lawyers claimed that the implants had made
the women ill. There was a lot of what you might call consequential damage.
The lawyers won a record $4.25 billion settlement against the implant
manufacturers, causing the bankruptcy of Dow Corning. Marcia Angell, then
executive editor of the New England Journal of Medicine and now teaching at
Harvard Medical School, wrote first a scathing editorial on the FDA's
decision and then a book. Science on Trial, which contended that there was
no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women. Angell was
in turn raked over the coals by everyone except the manufacturers. Studies
of breast implants, however, have shown they do not cause the damage
claimed.
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Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

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mdd
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1 June 2004, 12:55 UTC #2

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to lift the ban on silicone implants, which was brought in a decade

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when a number of women and their lawyers claimed that the implants had

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the women ill. There was a lot of what you might call consequential

damage.
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The lawyers won a record $4.25 billion settlement against the implant
manufacturers, causing the bankruptcy of Dow Corning. Marcia Angell, then
executive editor of the New England Journal of Medicine and now teaching

at
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Harvard Medical School, wrote first a scathing editorial on the FDA's
decision and then a book. Science on Trial, which contended that there was
no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women. Angell

was
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in turn raked over the coals by everyone except the manufacturers. Studies
of breast implants, however, have shown they do not cause the damage
claimed.
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The "studies" might be flawed, like so many "studies".The war is not over
yet boo boo.

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1 June 2004, 15:31 UTC #3

You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
with WMD....
Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
their maker..
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1 June 2004, 15:54 UTC #4

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In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration
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there
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was
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no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
with WMD....
Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
their maker..
So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed the
women?
Please post it.
--Rich

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1 June 2004, 15:57 UTC #5

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was no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
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You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
with WMD....
Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
their maker..
The panel voted. However the ban was not lifted and
more long term studies were recommended.

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In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration
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there
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was no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
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You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
with WMD....
Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
their maker..
The panel voted. However the ban was not lifted and
more long term studies were recommended.
So it looks like the FDA guys will "meet their maker" with clear consciences
about the breast implant issues. I'm not so sure about Bush, however.
--Rich

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In late 2003, an advisory panel to the US Food and Drug Administration
voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended that

there
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was
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no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
with WMD....
Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
their maker..
So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed the
women?
Please post it.
--Rich

How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with. You
rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you have
some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.

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The panel voted. However the ban was not lifted and
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Administration
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> voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended that

there
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was
> no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
with WMD....
Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
their maker..
So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed the
women?
Please post it.
--Rich

How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with. You
rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you have
some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
At one time, I was expressing the same narrow minded opinion as you are.
However, after doing quite a bit of reading I came to realize that breast
implants for post-op surgical cancer patients are very important, as they
help speed and improve recovery.
However, I do not believe in female, or male, surgical enhancement merely
for the sake of the enhancement. I like women to be all natural.

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> You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
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> Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
> on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
> their maker..
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the
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women?
Please post it.
--Rich

How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with.

You
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rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you

have
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some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
At one time, I was expressing the same narrow minded opinion as you are.
However, after doing quite a bit of reading I came to realize that breast
implants for post-op surgical cancer patients are very important, as they
help speed and improve recovery.
However, I do not believe in female, or male, surgical enhancement merely
for the sake of the enhancement. I like women to be all natural.

Well, at least we agree on the important things. mdd

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> voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended that

there
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was
> no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
with WMD....
Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
their maker..
So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed the
women?
Please post it.
--Rich

How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with. You
rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you have
some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to me to
make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in their
bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever to do
with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for injury to
women who have implants of that material.
--Rich

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that
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there
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>
> You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
> with WMD....
> Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
> on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
> their maker..
So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed

the
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women?
Please post it.
--Rich

How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with.

You
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rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you

have
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some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to me

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make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in their
bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever to do
with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for injury

to
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women who have implants of that material.
--Rich

Perhaps you might have a small amount of silicone implanted somewhere in
YOUR body, just to show your good faith, and report to us in a few years
about your opinions.

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women.
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> > their maker..
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> So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed

the
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How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with.

You
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rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you

have
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some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to

me
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to
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make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in their
bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever to

do
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with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for

injury
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to
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women who have implants of that material.
--Rich

Perhaps you might have a small amount of silicone implanted somewhere in
YOUR body, just to show your good faith, and report to us in a few years
about your opinions.
No, thank you. I have some titanium, will that do?
--Rich

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> rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you

have
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> some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to

me
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to
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make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in

their
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bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever

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do
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with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for

injury
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to
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women who have implants of that material.
--Rich

Perhaps you might have a small amount of silicone implanted somewhere in
YOUR body, just to show your good faith, and report to us in a few years
about your opinions.
No, thank you. I have some titanium, will that do?
--Rich

No..

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> > > voted to lift the ban on silicone implants......which contended

that
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> there
> > was
> > > no evidence backing the claim that the implants harmed the women.
> >
> > You mean the same way as Bush won the war by invading Iraq
> > with WMD....
> > Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
> > on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
> > their maker..
>
> So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed

the
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> women?
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> Please post it.
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> --Rich
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How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start with.

You
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rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you

have
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some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to me

to
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make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in their
bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever to do
with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for injury

to
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women who have implants of that material.
--Rich

Perhaps you might have a small amount of silicone implanted somewhere in
YOUR body, just to show your good faith, and report to us in a few years
about your opinions.
It appears Rich Andrews started this thread. What Rich overlooks is it is NOT
that science won, it is organized medicine who won.
There have been all kinds of problems with silicone implants.
Will the manufactures admit it? Of course not. They do the scientists for hire
bit.
Want the truth?? Talk to those who have ACTUAL problems.
It is clear what Rich is all about, as he used the word *won*.
A pity that is what the *gang* is all about!!
Jan
Rich is a cyberstalker and he has been stalking Jan for a long time. John Bain

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that
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women.
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> > > Fortunately he and members of the FDA won't be able to rely
> > > on their political and monetary might and power when they meet
> > > their maker..
> >
> > So perhaps YOU have evidence backing the claim that implants harmed

the
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> How bout we begin at the start? It was a dumb-ass idea to start

with.
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You
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> rich, are not a woman, so why do you wish it on women anyway? Do you

have
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> some momma titty problem that needs be addressed? Seems you do.
I, personally prefer natural, unaugmented breasts. But it is not up to

me
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to
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make decisions for others about what cosmetic changes they make in

their
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bodies. My opinions about the matter, however, have nothing whatever to

do
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with the truth about whether silicone implants are responsible for

injury
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to
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women who have implants of that material.
--Rich

Perhaps you might have a small amount of silicone implanted somewhere in
YOUR body, just to show your good faith, and report to us in a few years
about your opinions.
It appears Rich Andrews started this thread.
When I see Rich starting a thread, I always read it as it has good points.
What Rich overlooks is it is NOT
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that science won, it is organized medicine who won.
Nope. Science showed that there are no demonstable problems which can be
discerned at this time. However, caution won, as it should always do.
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There have been all kinds of problems with silicone implants.
Allegations, not proven.
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Will the manufactures admit it? Of course not. They do the scientists for

hire
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bit.
Of course you would say that. It helps you remain in denial.
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Want the truth?? Talk to those who have ACTUAL problems.
They can provide usefull information onmany things, but not causal
relationship.
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It is clear what Rich is all about, as he used the word *won*.
As opposed to you being a loser.
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A pity that is what the *gang* is all about!!
No, it is the Truth Squad.

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2 June 2004, 22:55 UTC #17

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 2, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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No, it is the Truth Squad.

Horse [censored].

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2 June 2004, 23:50 UTC #18

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Subject: Re: Looks like science won.
From: "mdd" [email hidden]
Date: 6/2/04 6:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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No, it is the Truth Squad.

Horse [censored].
And very different from cow [censored].
Yet, the un-truth squad continually proves their value in this
group....worthless.
DrC PhD

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M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 2, 2004
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3 June 2004, 13:14 UTC #19

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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 2, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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No, it is the Truth Squad.

Horse [censored].
That is the secret ingredient in hulda Clark's cleanses.

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M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 3, 2004
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3 June 2004, 13:14 UTC #20

"DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: Looks like science won.
From: "mdd" [email hidden]
Date: 6/2/04 6:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
No, it is the Truth Squad.

Horse [censored].
And very different from cow [censored].
Yet, the un-truth squad continually proves their value in this
group....worthless.
Well, Chukie, it sure is good to see that you are using the correct term,
i.e. The Truth Squad. What saddens me, though, is your resistance to getting
a clue.

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