Looking Good and Doing Good?

NYC XYZ said:

Hi, All:

Alright, so it looks like the older folks here can lift more than me
for some reason. So is it possible to look good but not "do" good, not
do the work? Like maybe I just look good...at the gym, people are
surprised I can't lift as much as I look like I can...I hear that being
strong would be to lift twice one's bodyweight...is that right?

A powerlifter who is carrying a lot of body fat will look like [censored], but still
lift a lot of weight. Or think of the olympic lifters in the upper weight
classes. Anyone would guess that they are strong, but a casual onlooker would
not expect them to be strong *for their weight*. But they are (even though
their weight is huge, their strength is even more huge) Conversely, if you have
low bodyfat and good muscle definition, people may assume that you can lift a
lot of weight.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

On 15 Apr 2005 08:31:09 -0700, "NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Hi, All:

Alright, so it looks like the older folks here can lift more than me
for some reason. So is it possible to look good but not "do" good, not
do the work? Like maybe I just look good...at the gym, people are
surprised I can't lift as much as I look like I can...I hear that being
strong would be to lift twice one's bodyweight...is that right?

You've been asking a lot of stupid questions lately.

Quoted message said:

I don't look any different than I did back in my prime almost fifteen
years ago in the Army -- bulky, cut, blah blah, but I am definitely
lifting much less...so I guess it's possible to have the same
eight-pack (yeah, eight!) but able to do only half the work???

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Proton Soup

"And all this peace has been deceiving,
I need some wind to get me sailing"

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:31:11 -0500, Proton Soup <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On 15 Apr 2005 08:31:09 -0700, "NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Hi, All:

Alright, so it looks like the older folks here can lift more than me
for some reason. So is it possible to look good but not "do" good, not
do the work? Like maybe I just look good...at the gym, people are
surprised I can't lift as much as I look like I can...I hear that being
strong would be to lift twice one's bodyweight...is that right?

You've been asking a lot of stupid questions lately.

That should allow you to exercise your undoubted ability to respond
with more of your typically "stupid" answers!!

Have a great weekend PS - you know I will!! ;o)

TFIF!

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Quoted message said:

Hi, All:

Alright, so it looks like the older folks here can lift more than me
for some reason. So is it possible to look good but not "do" good,
not
do the work? Like maybe I just look good...at the gym, people are
surprised I can't lift as much as I look like I can...I hear that
being
strong would be to lift twice one's bodyweight...is that right?

I don't look any different than I did back in my prime almost fifteen
years ago in the Army -- bulky, cut, blah blah, but I am definitely
lifting much less...so I guess it's possible to have the same
eight-pack (yeah, eight!) but able to do only half the work???

Post your max lifts, your workouts of late, your height, weight, bodyfat
percentage, and age - and we'll all chime in with suggestions about how
you lift more.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

NYC XYZ said:

Hi, All:

Alright, so it looks like the older folks here can lift more than me
for some reason. So is it possible to look good but not "do" good, not
do the work? Like maybe I just look good...at the gym, people are
surprised I can't lift as much as I look like I can...I hear that being
strong would be to lift twice one's bodyweight...is that right?

I don't look any different than I did back in my prime almost fifteen
years ago in the Army -- bulky, cut, blah blah, but I am definitely
lifting much less...so I guess it's possible to have the same
eight-pack (yeah, eight!) but able to do only half the work???

It depends on how people are training. Some methods are focused more on
hypertrophy and some on strength. Sometimes it's just plain ol'
genetics. I've seen thin guys lift heavy for their size and big guys
lift light for their size.

--
Ed
http://everythingec.com/startingpoint

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Dnia 2005-04-15 NYC XYZ napisa³(a):

Quoted message said:

Hi, All:

Alright, so it looks like the older folks here can lift more than me
for some reason. So is it possible to look good but not "do" good, not
do the work?

I had a friend who was blessed/cursed with soft muscles. It was at the
time when you bothered about such things as comparing toughness of one's
bicep and somehow I remembered. He wasn't week, but comparing to the
size of his muscles he could be considered one. I, for example, have
rather "hard" muscles. They are "good" for lifting but bad as far as
looks go.

Quoted message said:

Like maybe I just look good...at the gym, people are
surprised I can't lift as much as I look like I can...I hear that being
strong would be to lift twice one's bodyweight...is that right?

If you will not start doing real exercises you will not become really
strong. By real exercises I mean things like squats, dead-lifts, power
cleans, one handed snatches and/or clean and presses, farmer walks, one
handed dead-lifts, power curls, maybe some Olympic lifts, if you can
find a nerve to learn proper technique.

This kind of exercises stresses things important for real life strength
performance.

Quoted message said:

I don't look any different than I did back in my prime almost fifteen
years ago in the Army -- bulky, cut, blah blah, but I am definitely
lifting much less...so I guess it's possible to have the same
eight-pack (yeah, eight!) but able to do only half the work???

If you do not train your legs? Sure.

--
Weighted chins and dips are good medicine.

LOL -- sorry if I kept anyone up at night!

Charles said:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:31:11 -0500, Proton Soup <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

You've been asking a lot of stupid questions lately.

That should allow you to exercise your undoubted ability to respond
with more of your typically "stupid" answers!!

Have a great weekend PS - you know I will!! ;o)

TFIF!

Andrzej Rosa said:

I had a friend who was blessed/cursed with soft muscles. It was at

the

Quoted message said:

time when you bothered about such things as comparing toughness of

one's

Quoted message said:

bicep and somehow I remembered. He wasn't week, but comparing to the
size of his muscles he could be considered one. I, for example, have
rather "hard" muscles. They are "good" for lifting but bad as far as

Quoted message said:

looks go.

Yes, I don't pay as much attention to "definition"....

Quoted message said:

If you will not start doing real exercises you will not become really
strong. By real exercises I mean things like squats, dead-lifts,

power

Quoted message said:

cleans, one handed snatches and/or clean and presses, farmer walks,

one

Quoted message said:

handed dead-lifts, power curls, maybe some Olympic lifts, if you can
find a nerve to learn proper technique.

This kind of exercises stresses things important for real life

strength

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performance.

Okay, okay -- I will, I will! I mean, since I'll be gulping protein
shakes now anyway...but you know, it's goddanged hard to find a
reliable spotter!!

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If you do not train your legs? Sure.

Well, I do do those leg raise things ("butterflies" in Army PT --
extended leg raises, with your hands supporting your back).

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--
Weighted chins and dips are good medicine.

Seems so gimmicky, like something outta them '70s chop-socky flicks.