looking for newsreader recommendation

catzz66 said:

Basically I have been happy with Thunderbird, but I would like to be
able to block emails that contain certain user names, email addresses
and the like in their content. I would also like to be able to block
messages that are cross posted to certain newsgroups. Unless I am
missing it, I don't think I can do either of these things with TBird.

Go to Tools, then to Message Filters. You can set
up any kind of filter you want.

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Larry D. Farrell, Ph.D.
Professor of Microbiology
Idaho State University

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Larry Farrell said:

catzz66 said:

Basically I have been happy with Thunderbird, but I would like to be
able to block emails that contain certain user names, email addresses
and the like in their content. I would also like to be able to block
messages that are cross posted to certain newsgroups. Unless I am
missing it, I don't think I can do either of these things with TBird.

Go to Tools, then to Message Filters. You can set up any kind of filter
you want.

Sorry, but my choices seem to be limited to filtering by sender (works
by email address in the header), subject (looks at the header) and date.
I am using a free version and it does not seem to have content filters.

catzz66 said:

Basically I have been happy with Thunderbird, but I would like to be
able to block emails that contain certain user names, email addresses
and the like in their content. I would also like to be able to block
messages that are cross posted to certain newsgroups. Unless I am
missing it, I don't think I can do either of these things with TBird.

I've had great luck with Pan in the past, it lets you set up all sorts
of nice wild cards for plonkage. I can't vouch for the stability of the
MS port, though I used it short term on XP with no ill effect. Stuck on
Google Groups here as my ISPs supposed news servers have never worked,
and I'm too lazy to try and find an alternative.

If you're familiar with Agent or Free Agent, the Pan should make sense.
If it seems wildly unstable, try another build:

http://pan.rebelbase.com/

catzz66 said:

Larry Farrell said:

catzz66 said:

Basically I have been happy with Thunderbird, but I would like to be
able to block emails that contain certain user names, email addresses
and the like in their content. I would also like to be able to block
messages that are cross posted to certain newsgroups. Unless I am
missing it, I don't think I can do either of these things with TBird.

Go to Tools, then to Message Filters. You can set up any kind of
filter you want.

Sorry, but my choices seem to be limited to filtering by sender (works
by email address in the header), subject (looks at the header) and date.
I am using a free version and it does not seem to have content filters.

Yeah that is one drawback to Thunderbird. I have been using it for a
while now and really wish I could filter content as well. I wish they
would come out with an extention to fill this void.

Ken
--
Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:24:52 -0500, catzz66 wrote...

Quoted message said:

Larry Farrell said:

catzz66 said:

Basically I have been happy with Thunderbird, but I would like to be
able to block emails that contain certain user names, email addresses
and the like in their content. I would also like to be able to block
messages that are cross posted to certain newsgroups. Unless I am
missing it, I don't think I can do either of these things with TBird.

Go to Tools, then to Message Filters. You can set up any kind of filter
you want.

Sorry, but my choices seem to be limited to filtering by sender (works
by email address in the header), subject (looks at the header) and date.
I am using a free version and it does not seem to have content filters.

I've used Eudora for email for a number of years and wasn't very happy with
their filtering options. I wasn't able to find a freeware program that offered
decent filtering options for email either. When I signed up for Newsguy to get
newsgroups, they also include a mailbox that has real nice filtering capability.
Their filtering options apply to access through their web or your regular mail
program so you can continue to use Thunderbird if you prefer.

Email and the newsgroups are two different things so they'll have to be filtered
separately. When you download headers from the newsgroups, using Thunderbird or
any other newsreader, it is only working with some basic information (such
author, subject, date). The message body isn't even available to scan until you
select it to download. Some programs likes Xnews are suppose to have good
filtering capability, but the interface differs quite a bit from Thunderbird.
Maybe worth a try.

Martie
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Martie said:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:24:52 -0500, catzz66 wrote...

Email and the newsgroups are two different things so they'll have to be filtered
separately. When you download headers from the newsgroups, using Thunderbird or
any other newsreader, it is only working with some basic information (such
author, subject, date). The message body isn't even available to scan until you
select it to download. Some programs likes Xnews are suppose to have good
filtering capability, but the interface differs quite a bit from Thunderbird.
Maybe worth a try.

You first pull up TB, then select your newsreader. Your newsgroup
choices come up under that. It goes to the server and loads the unread
messages. When you click on your desired newsgroup, it seems to apply
the filters at that time. They are pretty basic as you expected,
filtering only by date, email address and subject.

It is pretty good as it is and I can live with it, but if I could
improve it, I would consider another one. Some people have mentioned
other filters that they use that allow them to block things crossposted
from particular newsgroups where they must not do much but troll or
reply to trolls.

catzz66 said:

Basically I have been happy with Thunderbird, but I would like to be
able to block emails that contain certain user names, email addresses
and the like in their content. I would also like to be able to block
messages that are cross posted to certain newsgroups. Unless I am
missing it, I don't think I can do either of these things with TBird.

If you're only reading text newsgroups, slrn can't be beat. Navigate
with only a few keys, no mouse required.

http://www.slrn.org/

chuck said:

catzz66 said:

Basically I have been happy with Thunderbird, but I would like to be
able to block emails that contain certain user names, email addresses
and the like in their content. I would also like to be able to block
messages that are cross posted to certain newsgroups. Unless I am
missing it, I don't think I can do either of these things with TBird.

If you're only reading text newsgroups, slrn can't be beat. Navigate
with only a few keys, no mouse required.

http://www.slrn.org/

slrn is great. I use it remotely on my linux server box.
Easy and light weight. If you are running linux, give it
a try, or there is Pan. Pan is ok...kinda to
busy for me though.
Cheers,
Chris

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:51:36 -0500, catzz66 wrote...

Quoted message said:

Martie said:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:24:52 -0500, catzz66 wrote...

Email and the newsgroups are two different things so they'll have to be filtered
separately. When you download headers from the newsgroups, using Thunderbird or
any other newsreader, it is only working with some basic information (such
author, subject, date). The message body isn't even available to scan until you
select it to download. Some programs likes Xnews are suppose to have good
filtering capability, but the interface differs quite a bit from Thunderbird.
Maybe worth a try.

You first pull up TB, then select your newsreader. Your newsgroup
choices come up under that. It goes to the server and loads the unread
messages. When you click on your desired newsgroup, it seems to apply
the filters at that time. They are pretty basic as you expected,
filtering only by date, email address and subject.

It is pretty good as it is and I can live with it, but if I could
improve it, I would consider another one. Some people have mentioned
other filters that they use that allow them to block things crossposted
from particular newsgroups where they must not do much but troll or
reply to trolls.

Depending if your Usenet provider supports it, I believe the Xref header tracks
cross-posting. Not familiar enough with Thunderbird or Xnews to configure that
yet though. : )

Martie
--
Newsguy Express $9.95 monthly
http://newsguy.com/overview.htm

catzz66 said:

It is pretty good as it is and I can live with it, but if I could
improve it, I would consider another one. Some people have mentioned
other filters that they use that allow them to block things crossposted
from particular newsgroups where they must not do much but troll or
reply to trolls.

I've managed it for myself, but it's a custom solution that only applies
to people using the leafnode newserver on their own machines. As such,
it's probably useless to you.

:-(

--
Dane Buson - [email hidden]
"He had delusions of adequacy." - Walter Kerr

Chris said:

chuck said:

catzz66 said:

Basically I have been happy with Thunderbird, but I would like to be
able to block emails that contain certain user names, email addresses
and the like in their content. I would also like to be able to block
messages that are cross posted to certain newsgroups. Unless I am
missing it, I don't think I can do either of these things with TBird.

If you're only reading text newsgroups, slrn can't be beat. Navigate
with only a few keys, no mouse required.

http://www.slrn.org/

slrn is great. I use it remotely on my linux server box.
Easy and light weight. If you are running linux, give it
a try, or there is Pan. Pan is ok...kinda to
busy for me though.
Cheers,
Chris

Slrn works fine on Windows too.