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  1. Hello people, I am a student in high school who has always found an interest in neuroscience.
    Basically, my problem is that the only books I can find on the subject are textbooks. I am looking
    for some kind of book that serves as an introduction, ideally a thorough one, to neuroscience that
    is not a textbook. If anyone knows of such a book, their recommendation of it would be tremendously
    appreciated! If no one knows of such a book, then any other recommendation (of books on this subject
    that I may be able to read) would be just as helpful. I know that many people reading this post will
    think it is be insane for me to expect to be able to read something like this, but I'd like to
    encourage these people to ignore that and help me find a book. =] I'm willing to read something
    ridiculously long. I'm willing to have to do research in order to understand what the book is
    talking about. I'd just like a place to start.

    If anyone cares for a reason why I'm asking, keep reading. Else, there's no reason to waste your
    time, so you'll probably want to either go ahead and post a reading recommendation or move on to
    another post.

    I was prescribed by a physician Methylphenidate when about six-years-old. It blew my mind that a
    pill could alter my brain's function in such a major way, and I kept asking my physician for answers
    as to how it works, but the most I could get at that age was the doctor's drawing on a pad of paper
    of how she said it worked. That sufficed at the time to make the realize that the explanation was
    more than I could understand, at that point at least. To make a very long story short, I've been
    interested in how these things work since then. I've looked for as much information as I can find
    regarding how exactly drugs like dextroamphetamine work, but I accept now that I'll never understand
    until I have a much better knowledge of neurology as whole. So... that's my goal now: To learn
    enough until I understand the dopamine neurotransmitter and what effects amphetamine-like stimulants
    have on it. The reason that I've posted to Usenet is that I can't think of a better way of finding a
    way to find this information than by asking people who have learned these things. So, to get back to
    my point, if anyone thinks they know of a way for me to get started, please tell me what I can read.
    Your input, whether in regard to books or not, will not go unappreciated!

    Thanks in advance everyone! Chris Brunner

    PS: If anyone knows of a better place to post this, please let me know. PSS: Email is more likely to
    received by me if "newsaddy" is replaced with "chris"

  2. "Chris Brunner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello people, I am a student in high school who has always found an interest in neuroscience.
    Basically, my problem is that the only books I can find on the subject are textbooks. I am looking
    for some kind of book that serves as an introduction, ideally a thorough one, to neuroscience that
    is not a textbook. ...

    You might try here: faculty.washington.eduintrob.html

    It is geared towards middle school, but it does have several references and links that you might
    find helpful.

  3. Chris Brunner said:

    Hello people, I am a student in high school who has always found an interest in neuroscience.
    Basically, my problem is that the only books I can find on the subject are textbooks. I am looking
    for some kind of book that serves as an introduction, ideally a thorough one, to neuroscience that
    is not a textbook. If anyone knows of such a book, their recommendation of it would be tremendously
    appreciated! If no one knows of such a book, then any other recommendation (of books on this
    subject that I may be able to read) would be just as helpful. I know that many people reading this
    post will think it is be insane for me to expect to be able to read something like this, but I'd
    like to encourage these people to ignore that and help me find a book. =] I'm willing to read
    something ridiculously long. I'm willing to have to do research in order to understand what the
    book is talking about. I'd just like a place to start.

    If anyone cares for a reason why I'm asking, keep reading. Else, there's no reason to waste your
    time, so you'll probably want to either go ahead and post a reading recommendation or move on to
    another post.

    I was prescribed by a physician Methylphenidate when about six-years-old. It blew my mind that a
    pill could alter my brain's function in such a major way, and I kept asking my physician for
    answers as to how it works, but the most I could get at that age was the doctor's drawing on a pad
    of paper of how she said it worked. That sufficed at the time to make the realize that the
    explanation was more than I could understand, at that point at least. To make a very long story
    short, I've been interested in how these things work since then. I've looked for as much
    information as I can find regarding how exactly drugs like dextroamphetamine work, but I accept now
    that I'll never understand until I have a much better knowledge of neurology as whole. So... that's
    my goal now: To learn enough until I understand the dopamine neurotransmitter and what effects amphetamine-
    like stimulants have on it. The reason that I've posted to Usenet is that I can't think of a better
    way of finding a way to find this information than by asking people who have learned these things.
    So, to get back to my point, if anyone thinks they know of a way for me to get started, please tell
    me what I can read. Your input, whether in regard to books or not, will not go unappreciated!

    Thanks in advance everyone! Chris Brunner

    PS: If anyone knows of a better place to post this, please let me know. PSS: Email is more likely
    to received by me if "newsaddy" is replaced with "chris"

    What is the matter with textbooks or other instructional material? You want to learn, don't you, and
    these are designed to help teach!

    Here are some web sites that may be a start.

    Some elementary sites brainsrule.combrainsrule.com tpt.orgbrain.html
    dana.orgdana.org

    Drugs and behavior rci.rutgers.edudrugs

    Google, of course, has a neurobiology page listing an enormous number of sites to explore at
    directory.google.comNeurobiology

    Good luck. Ritalin is not the easiest drug to research since its mecanism of action is so vague and
    undetermined. As you probably already found out, there are indications about what it does to
    specific neurotransmitters and some vague ideas about what it does "as a mild stmulant to the brain
    stem arousal system and cortex" The details about how it does what it does (and exactly what ADD
    might be) are still quite unknown.

    Here is a site dealing with this specific issue (the relation between ADD and the reticular
    activating system) newideas.netp0000627.htm

  4. You might like the more general popular science/non-textbook (but still relatively scholarly)
    approaches to this subject which have been written by Antonio Damasio ("Descartes Error" and "The
    Feeling of What Happens"😉 or Joseph LeDoux ("The Emotional Brain", "The Synaptic Self"😉. Check out
    amazon.com for descriptions, reviews, and links to similar material by other authors.

    Enjoy!

    Scott Oakman, MD/PhD Psychiatry, Univ. of Michigan

    Chris Brunner <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello people, I am a student in high school who has always found an interest in neuroscience.
    Basically, my problem is that the only books I can find on the subject are textbooks. I am looking
    for some kind of book that serves as an introduction, ideally a thorough one, to neuroscience that
    is not a textbook. If anyone knows of such a book, their recommendation of it would be
    tremendously appreciated! If no one knows of such a book, then any other recommendation (of books
    on this subject that I may be able to read) would be just as helpful. I know that many people
    reading this post will think it is be insane for me to expect to be able to read something like
    this, but I'd like to encourage these people to ignore that and help me find a book. =] I'm
    willing to read something ridiculously long. I'm willing to have to do research in order to
    understand what the book is talking about. I'd just like a place to start.

    If anyone cares for a reason why I'm asking, keep reading. Else, there's no reason to waste your
    time, so you'll probably want to either go ahead and post a reading recommendation or move on to
    another post.

    I was prescribed by a physician Methylphenidate when about six-years-old. It blew my mind that a
    pill could alter my brain's function in such a major way, and I kept asking my physician for
    answers as to how it works, but the most I could get at that age was the doctor's drawing on a pad
    of paper of how she said it worked. That sufficed at the time to make the realize that the
    explanation was more than I could understand, at that point at least. To make a very long story
    short, I've been interested in how these things work since then. I've looked for as much
    information as I can find regarding how exactly drugs like dextroamphetamine work, but I accept
    now that I'll never understand until I have a much better knowledge of neurology as whole. So...
    that's my goal now: To learn enough until I understand the dopamine neurotransmitter and what
    effects amphetamine-like stimulants have on it. The reason that I've posted to Usenet is that I
    can't think of a better way of finding a way to find this information than by asking people who
    have learned these things. So, to get back to my point, if anyone thinks they know of a way for me
    to get started, please tell me what I can read. Your input, whether in regard to books or not,
    will not go unappreciated!

    Thanks in advance everyone! Chris Brunner

    PS: If anyone knows of a better place to post this, please let me know. PSS: Email is more likely
    to received by me if "newsaddy" is replaced with "chris"

  5. HCN said:

    You might try here: faculty.washington.eduintrob.html

    It is geared towards middle school, but it does have several references and links that you might
    find helpful.

    Anything that I didn't already know helps. Thanks for this!

  6. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Chris,

    I think it's terrific that you are interested in teaching yourself neuroscience at such a young
    age. I wish I had done that when I was in high school. I can understand your wish to stay away
    from textbooks, but there are some good ones out there. Also, if you wish to continue to study
    science when you're in college, you'll have to get used to textbooks at some point. I'll mention a
    few that I've found helpful. They might be a little bit difficult, but you are obviously very
    bright, so I don't think they'll be too daunting for you.

    The first one is not really a textbook, but it's jam-packed with lots of useful neuroscience text.
    It's called THE HUMAN BRAIN COLORING BOOK, by M.C. Diamond, A.B. Scheibel, and L.M. Elson. It's
    part of a series of "coloring books." Some of the others in that series are: THE PHYSIOLOGY
    COLORING BOOK and THE ANATOMY COLORING BOOK. You don't have to color the pictures, but it might be
    helpful in some instances and, as I said, the accompanying text is excellent. I'm not absolutely
    certain, but I think the publisher is Barnes and Noble Books.

    Another excellent book is NEUROBIOLOGY by Gordon Shepherd. I don't know what edition it's in now,
    but you can easily check that online at Amazon.com or Barnes and Noble.com.

    The next one that I've found very helpful is FUNDAMENTAL NEUROANATOMY by Walle J.H. Nauta and
    Michael Feirtag.

    You might also like to check out CELLULAR PHYSIOLOGY OF NERVE AND MUSCLE by Gary G. Matthews.

    As for pharmacology information (you mentioned you'd taken medication), Stephen Stahl's book,
    ESSENTIAL PSYCHOPHARMACOLOGY is one of the best I've seen. While the text might be advanced for
    you now, there are some wonderful diagrams that go with the text, and some of them are kind of
    humorous. Again, I'm uncertain what edition that book is in.

    It might also be helpful for you to get ahold of a basic, introductory, college level biology book
    (oops, sorry, but that would be a textbook), and read the chapters devoted to the nervous system.
    Often, at the end of those chapters, the author will list many useful references. I know you were
    hoping to avoid textbooks, but with your interests, it may not be possible to avoid them for long.
    The nice thing about a basic introductory biology book is that it's a good starting point, and the
    material is usually presented in a manner that is easier to grasp. Some examples of good
    introductory biology books are BIOLOGY by Helena Curtis and BIOLOGICAL SCIENCE by Keeton and
    Gould. Actually, I don't know whether those are available anymore in new editions, but you might
    be able to find them in the library.

    By the way, you express yourself very well. You write better than many adults I meet on message
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  8. Go to the Library and check out the September, 1979 issue of =Scientific American=. It's a good
    intro. Lots of excellent diagrams. [They [W. F. Freeman] also published it as a book, so you might
    be able to find it in bookstores, but I don't have the title.]

    ken

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  9. There is a MUCH newer _Scientific American_ special "Brain" issue. Again, go to amazon.com.

    (You'd send this kid to the **1979** version? Before PET, before MRI, before molecular
    neurochemistry?????)

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    Quoted message said:

    Go to the Library and check out the September, 1979 issue of =Scientific American=. It's a good
    intro. Lots of excellent diagrams. [They [W. F. Freeman] also published it as a book, so you might
    be able to find it in bookstores, but I don't have the title.]

    ken

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    Hello people, [...]

  10. "Scott Oakman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    There is a MUCH newer _Scientific American_ special "Brain" issue. Again, go to amazon.com.

    (You'd send this kid to the **1979** version? Before PET, before MRI, before molecular
    neurochemistry?????)

    Yeah, with well-substantiated reason to do so.

    To begin, it's best to start somewhere the beginning. The Sept., 1979 issue of SciAM does this
    pretty well.

    What I'm talking about is gaining a generalized understanding of the functional neuroanatomy - it's
    the 'skeleton' upon which everything else is ordered.

    Gotta get it first, else the modern stuff tends to exists as aa "castle in the air".

    ken

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    Quoted message said:

    Go to the Library and check out the September, 1979 issue of =Scientific American=. It's a good
    intro. Lots of excellent diagrams. [They [W. F. Freeman] also published it as a book, so you
    might be able to find it in bookstores, but I don't have the title.]

    ken

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    Hello people, [...]

  11. I strongly suggest you read "User's Guide to the Brain" by John Ratey. It is written in layman's
    terms, is not a text book and has great clinical references, with the author being a psychiatrist.

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