Looking for all the blood types

"Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

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My idiot in-laws are on this new diet kick. The one by
Adamo(sp??() about the diet being limited by your
blood type. I know that the diet is pure bunk, and am
looking for some information that I can use to
convince them of this.

One of the things I am looking for is the different types
of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO, Rh, Kell.
But what are the others, and what are the ratios of the
various sub-groups?

There are hundreds of types (200-500). Very few are used
clinically. The Rh subtypes are many and not limited to only
D (Rhpos or Rhneg). The antibodies formed against some of
these blood groups are naturally occuring. The ABO
antibodies are formed in response to normal bacteria present
and usually not foods. (For

Quoted message said:

example, from what i have seen, in the ABO system, there
is 43%A, 39%O, 13%B and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve and 17% (-
)ve; Kell is 91% (-)ve and 9 % (+)ve).

Any other sites that have scientific evidence that this
diet is bunk would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Marcel Beaudoin

It is pointless to try and convince those people about
anything. You have it reversed. It is up to them to prove
that ABO diet is a valid diet. Blood group associations with
disease is interesting but it does not correlate so much
with blood groups as it does with tissue antigens in general
and not just blood antigens. RBC antigens and tissue
antigens are one and the same usually.

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try this website

www.dadamo.com and see for yourself. Don't attack something
because you do not understand it.

The blood type diet is the best thing I have ever done and I
would recommend it to anybody with health problems.

My wife Blood type A felt no better after a few months of it
and no worse. I, however, and many others, have rid
themselves of arthritis, aches and pains, constant diarrhea
and constipation, chronic food and chemical allergies,
cholesterol, high blood pressure problems and a mass of
other health afflictions.

For Pete's sake, you don't even know the basic blood types
so how could you in your total ignorance have any clue
what is good for them and what isn't. But then I am
beating my head against the wall here because the attitude
you came in with is the attitude you will go out with
until you become tired of being deathly sick constantly. I
hope you are blessed with good health and this never
becomes an issue for you.

If your parents are seeking "strange" eating habits it is
more than likely they suffer from health problems and are
looking for a cure and the Blood Type diet may be the answer
for them or even one of them.

How much money are they paying out for this diet?....none?

How much extra is the food costing?...none?

Is there foods you will not enjoy mom making for you
anymore?....Yes?

Give it up. It sounds like you are a only chasing their
money and want a speedy death for them....LOL

"Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

cross posted to sci.med and sci.med.nutrition

My idiot in-laws are on this new diet kick. The one by
Adamo(sp??() about the diet being limited by your
blood type. I know that the diet is pure bunk, and am
looking for some information that I can use to
convince them of this.

One of the things I am looking for is the different
types of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO, Rh,
Kell. But what are the others, and what are the ratios
of the various sub-groups? (For example, from what i
have seen, in the ABO system, there is 43%A, 39%O, 13%B
and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve and 17% (-)ve; Kell is 91% (-
)ve and 9 % (+)ve).

Any other sites that have scientific evidence that this
diet is bunk would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Marcel Beaudoin

(Do not reply to hotmail addy, it is swamped by spam,
reply to sci.med or to me at the following e-mail addy:

mbeau at sympatico dot ca

)

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

try this website

www.dadamo.com and see for yourself. Don't attack
something because you do not understand it.

The blood type diet is the best thing I have ever done
and I would

recommend

Quoted message said:

it to anybody with health problems.

Please provide peer-reviewed evidence that it works. I tried
it. I got msucle cramps, my mind was foggy, I wwas pooping
like 5 times a day and couldn't get an erection more than
once a month.

Jeff

Quoted message said:

My wife Blood type A felt no better after a few months of
it and no worse. I, however, and many others, have rid
themselves of arthritis, aches and pains, constant
diarrhea and constipation, chronic food and chemical
allergies, cholesterol, high blood pressure problems and a
mass of other health afflictions.

For Pete's sake, you don't even know the basic blood types
so how could

you

Quoted message said:

in your total ignorance have any clue what is good for
them and what

isn't.

Quoted message said:

But then I am beating my head against the wall here
because the attitude

you

Quoted message said:

came in with is the attitude you will go out with until
you become tired

of

Quoted message said:

being deathly sick constantly. I hope you are blessed with
good health and this never becomes an issue for you.

If your parents are seeking "strange" eating habits it is
more than likely they suffer from health problems and are
looking for a cure and the Blood Type diet may be the
answer for them or even one of them.

How much money are they paying out for this diet?....none?

How much extra is the food costing?...none?

Is there foods you will not enjoy mom making for you
anymore?....Yes?

Give it up. It sounds like you are a only chasing their
money and want a speedy death for them....LOL

"Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

cross posted to sci.med and sci.med.nutrition

My idiot in-laws are on this new diet kick. The one by
Adamo(sp??() about the diet being limited by your
blood type. I know that the diet is pure bunk, and am
looking for some information that I can use to
convince them of this.

One of the things I am looking for is the different
types of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO, Rh,
Kell. But what are the others, and what are the ratios
of the various sub-groups? (For example, from what i
have seen, in the ABO system, there is 43%A, 39%O, 13%B
and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve and 17% (-)ve; Kell is 91% (-
)ve and 9 % (+)ve).

Any other sites that have scientific evidence that this
diet is bunk would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Marcel Beaudoin

(Do not reply to hotmail addy, it is swamped by spam,
reply to sci.med or to me at the following e-mail addy:

mbeau at sympatico dot ca

)

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

try this website

www.dadamo.com and see for yourself. Don't attack
something because you do not understand it.

The blood type diet is the best thing I have ever done
and I would

recommend

Quoted message said:

it to anybody with health problems.

My wife Blood type A felt no better after a few months of
it and no worse. I, however, and many others, have rid
themselves of arthritis, aches and pains, constant
diarrhea and constipation, chronic food and chemical
allergies, cholesterol, high blood pressure problems and a
mass of other health afflictions.

So you are type A? What about the other types such as M,N,S,
Fya,Fyb, Lea,Leb,Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,-
Ch,Lua,Lub,U,Kpa.kpb,jsa,j sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why
don't you eat what is appropriate for those blood types? You
ignore what you want to ignore and make up things for what
you believe in.

Quoted message said:

For Pete's sake, you don't even know the basic blood types
so how could

you

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in your total ignorance have any clue what is good for
them and what

isn't. These are not basic blood types. They are not even
soley blood types as many forensic scientists will tell you.
They are present in all tissue cells and not just blood.
These are glycoprotein carbohydrate moieties some of which
have function such as urea transport in the case of the
duffy Fy system. They have different functions for which you
have no clue on. The anti-A and anti-B are formed in
response to bacteria and not to food.

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But then I am beating my head against the wall here
because the attitude

you

Quoted message said:

came in with is the attitude you will go out with until
you become tired

of

Quoted message said:

being deathly sick constantly. I hope you are blessed with
good health and this never becomes an issue for you.

The attitude is show me the empirical evidence that you
can't produce. You are welcome to believe in anything you
wish just don't give me psuedoscience.

Quoted message said:

If your parents are seeking "strange" eating habits it is
more than likely they suffer from health problems and are
looking for a cure and the Blood Type diet may be the
answer for them or even one of them.

They should eat healthy and forget about that stuff.

Quoted message said:

How much money are they paying out for this diet?....none?

How much extra is the food costing?...none?

Is there foods you will not enjoy mom making for you
anymore?....Yes?

Out of igorance.

Quoted message said:

Give it up. It sounds like you are a only chasing their
money and want a speedy death for them....LOL

"Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

cross posted to sci.med and sci.med.nutrition

My idiot in-laws are on this new diet kick. The one by
Adamo(sp??() about the diet being limited by your
blood type. I know that the diet is pure bunk, and am
looking for some information that I can use to
convince them of this.

One of the things I am looking for is the different
types of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO, Rh,
Kell. But what are the others, and what are the ratios
of the various sub-groups? (For example, from what i
have seen, in the ABO system, there is 43%A, 39%O, 13%B
and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve and 17% (-)ve; Kell is 91% (-
)ve and 9 % (+)ve).

Any other sites that have scientific evidence that this
diet is bunk would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Marcel Beaudoin

(Do not reply to hotmail addy, it is swamped by spam,
reply to sci.med or to me at the following e-mail addy:

mbeau at sympatico dot ca

)

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

www.dadamo.com and see for yourself. Don't attack
something because you do not understand it.

I do understand it. Dr. Adamo thinks that based on your ABO
blood type, you should have a specific diet. Unfortunately,
there is no evidence to support this.

Quoted message said:

The blood type diet is the best thing I have ever done and
I would recommend it to anybody with health problems.

Gee. I would recommend a registered dietician and medical
Dr. first. But that is just me.

Quoted message said:

For Pete's sake, you don't even know the basic blood types
so how could you in your total ignorance have any clue
what is good for them and what isn't. But then I am
beating my head against the wall here because the attitude
you came in with is the attitude you will go out with
until you become tired of being deathly sick constantly. I
hope you are blessed with good health and this never
becomes an issue for you.

Did you actually read my post at all or did you see that I
don't believe in this diet and then post your message. If
you look just below this paragraph, you will see a quote of
my original post. You will see that I clearly state the
blood grouping systems that I know of. I know there are
others out there, and I was looking for them.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

One of the things I am looking for is the different
types of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO, Rh,
Kell. But what are the others, and what are the ratios
of the various sub-groups? (For example, from what i
have seen, in the ABO system, there is 43%A, 39%O, 13%B
and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve and 17% (-)ve; Kell is 91% (-
)ve and 9 % (+)ve).

Quoted message said:

If your parents are seeking "strange" eating habits it is
more than likely they suffer from health problems and are
looking for a cure and the Blood Type diet may be the
answer for them or even one of them.

Ummm. Not really. And they are my in-laws, not my parents.
But thanks for the kind thoughts anyways.

Quoted message said:

How much money are they paying out for this diet?....none?

You mean for the extra nutrients and vitamins that they
might need to take to ensure that they get the stuff that
they might not get if they religiously follow the diet??

Quoted message said:

Give it up. It sounds like you are a only chasing their
money and want a speedy death for them....LOL

Not really. They asked for my scientific opinion of this
diet. So I am looking for scientific evidence that this diet
is good or bad. So far, all I have found in support of this
is personal stories. The scientific evidence is *strongly*
on the side that this diet is not supported in any way,
shape or form.

Marcel

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

You know, I need to apologize if the tone of my previous
message was a bit harsh. If so, it was not meant to be. You
(and others) believe that the diet works for you. That is
great for you. If it works for you, go for it. However, I
don't believe that it works. This has only been around for
a few years, and there is *no* body of scientific evidence
supporting it. Before I could say that *I* would follow
this diet, I would need to understand it. The reasoning
that he has put out is, to me, shaky at best and, in some
cases, wrong.

Is it possible that he has come up with a brand new way of
eating that will revolutionize the health of humans??
possibly, but it is incumbent on him to provide peer-
reviewed scientific evidence supporting his diet.

Again, youbelieve that it works. i can live with that. Can
you live with the fact that I don't?

Marcel

i tried it - didn't do much. i'm type o - why should i eat
beef with all that fat instead of chicken as the diet says?

Jeff said:

.... I tried it. I got msucle cramps, my mind was foggy, I
wwas pooping like 5 times a day and couldn't get an
erection more than once a month. ....

Wow!

So it does work!! What more proof do you need?

Only in your case you got the opposite of what would be
considered beneficial. 🙁

Try changing the polarity of your diet. 😉

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mudbunny said:

cross posted to sci.med and sci.med.nutrition

My idiot in-laws are on this new diet kick. The one by
Adamo(sp??() about the diet being limited by your blood
type. I know that the diet is pure bunk, and am looking for
some information that I can use to convince them of this.

Most likely you won't be able to convince them, but if the
diet is reasonably healthy, and it doesn't take much to be
healthier than the average North American diet, you might as
well let them get on with it. Just cutting out the
overprocessed high-fat and high-sugar junk food can do a lot
to improve the average diet.

Quoted message said:

One of the things I am looking for is the different types
of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO, Rh, Kell. But
what are the others, and what are the ratios of the various
sub-groups? (For example, from what i have seen, in the ABO
system, there is 43%A, 39%O, 13%B and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve
and 17% (-)ve; Kell is 91% (-)ve and 9 % (+)ve).

As other people have pointed out, there are many more
factors. As for the percentages, these vary a lot with
ethnic origin. Rh- is almost entirely absent in populations
that aren't at least partly of European origin, and the
ratio of ABO phenotypes varies widely geographically too.

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Any other sites that have scientific evidence that this
diet is bunk would be greatly appreciated.

I suspect that your in-laws will not be able to or
interested in evaluating the scientific evidence or lack
thereof. It's like trying to get them to change their
politics or religion: futile and acrimonious. And even if
the system makes no sense scientifically, the diet may
still be better than what they would eat otherwise.
Eventually they will get tired of it and drift back to the
status quo ante.

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

try this website

www.dadamo.com and see for yourself. Don't attack
something because you do not understand it.

The blood type diet is the best thing I have ever done
and I would

recommend

Quoted message said:

it to anybody with health problems.

My wife Blood type A felt no better after a few months of
it and no worse.

What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb, Lea,Leb,-
Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lub,U,Kpa.-
kpb,jsa,j sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what
is appropriate for those blood types? You ignore what you
want to ignore and make up things for what you believe in.

Quoted message said:

I, however, and many others, have rid themselves of
arthritis, aches and pains, constant diarrhea and
constipation, chronic food and chemical allergies,
cholesterol, high blood pressure problems and a mass of
other health afflictions.

For Pete's sake, you don't even know the basic blood types
so how could

you

Quoted message said:

in your total ignorance have any clue what is good for
them and what

isn't.

Quoted message said:

But then I am beating my head against the wall here
because the attitude

you

Quoted message said:

came in with is the attitude you will go out with until
you become tired

of

Quoted message said:

being deathly sick constantly. I hope you are blessed with
good health and this never becomes an issue for you.

If your parents are seeking "strange" eating habits it is
more than likely they suffer from health problems and are
looking for a cure and the Blood Type diet may be the
answer for them or even one of them.

How much money are they paying out for this diet?....none?

How much extra is the food costing?...none?

Is there foods you will not enjoy mom making for you
anymore?....Yes?

Give it up. It sounds like you are a only chasing their
money and want a speedy death for them....LOL

"Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

cross posted to sci.med and sci.med.nutrition

My idiot in-laws are on this new diet kick. The one by
Adamo(sp??() about the diet being limited by your
blood type. I know that the diet is pure bunk, and am
looking for some information that I can use to
convince them of this.

One of the things I am looking for is the different
types of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO, Rh,
Kell. But what are the others, and what are the ratios
of the various sub-groups? (For example, from what i
have seen, in the ABO system, there is 43%A, 39%O, 13%B
and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve and 17% (-)ve; Kell is 91% (-
)ve and 9 % (+)ve).

Any other sites that have scientific evidence that this
diet is bunk would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Marcel Beaudoin

(Do not reply to hotmail addy, it is swamped by spam,
reply to sci.med or to me at the following e-mail addy:

mbeau at sympatico dot ca

)

"Scientific Evidence" based on what?

If you read up on the subject you will find their cause
effects test described in detail. Where is the "scientific
evidence" that this is Usenet? Show me some. Sometimes the
evidence is thousands, probably tens of thousands of
testimonials from people trying it. Ever heard the term "double-
blind study"? It is based on peoples (the subjects)
testimonials 99% of the time. When the test antidepressants
do you think they scientifically test their skin temperature
as an indicator? What machine would you hook them up to do
your "scientific evidence"?

With so much of your so-called "scientific evidence" being
scientifically disproved everyday, what the hell does it
mean? The end result is the people's testimonials. Only a
few years ago "Scientific evidence" could prove it was
impossible for a honey bee to fly.

If I saw a dietician or a doctor they would tell me to eat
more grains and fiber. meanwhile half the osteoporosis
victims are that way because of a gluten intolerance. Tell
them they need to eat more grains when it almost destroyed
them and probably has destroyed half their digestive
system over the years. tell the arthritics to eat
grains...but they need them because the nutritionalists
tell them it is good for them. Believe me us celiacs do
much better without grains. Blood type O people cannot
typically tolerate grains.

Similar to this is the Asian people that cannot tolerate
lactose. They all just "happen" to have the same blood type
but it's all just [censored] and "scientifically unfounded".

Things are only "scientifically unfounded" when you want
them to be for some other agenda.

For cripes sakes "atomic theory" is "scientifically
unfounded". Nobody can prove things are made of atoms.
Nobody has ever seen one. All theory.

Better yet, you produce some "scientific evidence" the blood
type diet doesn't work. Start from the other end and prove
it that way....ooooops that is what you want somebody to do
for you and it ain't gonna' happen without conjecture and
stretching thing a long way.

"Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

www.dadamo.com and see for yourself. Don't attack
something because you

do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not understand it.

I do understand it. Dr. Adamo thinks that based on your
ABO blood type, you should have a specific diet.
Unfortunately, there is no evidence to support this.

Quoted message said:

The blood type diet is the best thing I have ever done
and I would

recommend

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it to anybody with health problems.

Gee. I would recommend a registered dietician and medical
Dr. first. But that is just me.

Quoted message said:

For Pete's sake, you don't even know the basic blood
types so how could

you

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in your total ignorance have any clue what is good for
them and what

isn't.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But then I am beating my head against the wall here
because the attitude

you

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

came in with is the attitude you will go out with until
you become tired

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

being deathly sick constantly. I hope you are blessed
with good health

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

this never becomes an issue for you.

Did you actually read my post at all or did you see that I
don't believe in this diet and then post your message. If
you look just below this paragraph, you will see a quote
of my original post. You will see that I clearly state the
blood grouping systems that I know of. I know there are
others out there, and I was looking for them.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

One of the things I am looking for is the different
types of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO,
Rh, Kell. But what are the others, and what are the
ratios of the various sub-groups? (For example, from
what i have seen, in the ABO system, there is 43%A,
39%O, 13%B and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve and 17% (-)ve;
Kell is 91% (-)ve and 9 % (+)ve).

Quoted message said:

If your parents are seeking "strange" eating habits it
is more than

likely

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

they suffer from health problems and are looking for a
cure and the

Blood

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Type diet may be the answer for them or even one
of them.

Ummm. Not really. And they are my in-laws, not my parents.
But thanks for the kind thoughts anyways.

Quoted message said:

How much money are they paying out for this
diet?....none?

You mean for the extra nutrients and vitamins that they
might need to take to ensure that they get the stuff that
they might not get if they religiously follow the diet??

Quoted message said:

Give it up. It sounds like you are a only chasing their
money and want

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

speedy death for them....LOL

Not really. They asked for my scientific opinion of this
diet. So I am looking for scientific evidence that this
diet is good or bad. So far, all I have found in support
of this is personal stories. The scientific evidence is
*strongly* on the side that this diet is not supported in
any way, shape or form.

Marcel

50 years or less.

"Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

You know, I need to apologize if the tone of my previous
message was a bit harsh. If so, it was not meant to be.
You (and others) believe that the diet works for you. That
is great for you. If it works for you, go for it. However,
I don't believe that it works. This has only been around
for a few years, and there is *no* body of scientific
evidence supporting it. Before I could say that *I* would
follow this diet, I would need to understand it. The
reasoning that he has put out is, to me, shaky at best
and, in some cases, wrong.

Is it possible that he has come up with a brand new way of
eating that will revolutionize the health of humans??
possibly, but it is incumbent on him to provide peer-
reviewed scientific evidence supporting his diet.

Again, youbelieve that it works. i can live with that. Can
you live with the fact that I don't?

Marcel

What about PhD types? Bet ya' didn't know about PhD
negative did ya'?

What about them?

"Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

try this website

www.dadamo.com and see for yourself. Don't attack
something because you

do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not understand it.

The blood type diet is the best thing I have ever done
and I would

recommend

Quoted message said:

it to anybody with health problems.

My wife Blood type A felt no better after a few months
of it and no

worse.

Quoted message said:

What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb,

Lea,Leb,Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lu-
b,U,Kpa.kpb,jsa,j

Quoted message said:

sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what is
appropriate for those blood types? You ignore what you
want to ignore and make up things for

what

Quoted message said:

you believe in.

Quoted message said:

I, however, and many others, have rid themselves of
arthritis, aches and pains, constant diarrhea and
constipation, chronic food and chemical allergies,
cholesterol, high blood pressure problems and a mass of
other health afflictions.

For Pete's sake, you don't even know the basic blood
types so how could

you

Quoted message said:

in your total ignorance have any clue what is good for
them and what

isn't.

Quoted message said:

But then I am beating my head against the wall here
because the attitude

you

Quoted message said:

came in with is the attitude you will go out with until
you become tired

of

Quoted message said:

being deathly sick constantly. I hope you are blessed
with good health

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

this never becomes an issue for you.

If your parents are seeking "strange" eating habits it
is more than

likely

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Quoted message said:

they suffer from health problems and are looking for a
cure and the

Blood

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Type diet may be the answer for them or even one
of them.

How much money are they paying out for this
diet?....none?

How much extra is the food costing?...none?

Is there foods you will not enjoy mom making for you
anymore?....Yes?

Give it up. It sounds like you are a only chasing their
money and want

a

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speedy death for them....LOL

"Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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cross posted to sci.med and sci.med.nutrition

My idiot in-laws are on this new diet kick. The one by
Adamo(sp??() about the diet being limited by your
blood type. I know that the diet is pure bunk, and am
looking for some information that I can use to
convince them of this.

One of the things I am looking for is the different
types of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO,
Rh, Kell. But what are the others, and what are the
ratios of the various sub-groups? (For example, from
what i have seen, in the ABO system, there is 43%A,
39%O, 13%B and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve and 17% (-)ve;
Kell is 91% (-)ve and 9 % (+)ve).

Any other sites that have scientific evidence that
this diet is bunk would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Marcel Beaudoin

(Do not reply to hotmail addy, it is swamped by spam,
reply to sci.med or to me at the following e-mail
addy:

mbeau at sympatico dot ca

)

What's your problem?

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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i tried it - didn't do much. i'm type o - why should i
eat beef with all that fat instead of chicken as the
diet says?

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What about PhD types? Bet ya' didn't know about PhD
negative did ya'?

You didn't really answer my question of what do you eat for
all those types since you think that type is important for
diet. You can come up with testimonials for those also just
to make it more complete.

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What about them?

"Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news-
:[email hidden]...

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try this website

www.dadamo.com and see for yourself. Don't attack
something because

you

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do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not understand it.

The blood type diet is the best thing I have ever done
and I would

recommend

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it to anybody with health problems.

My wife Blood type A felt no better after a few months
of it and no

worse.

Quoted message said:

What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb,

Lea,Leb,Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lu-
b,U,Kpa.kpb,jsa,j

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sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what is
appropriate for

those

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blood types? You ignore what you want to ignore and make
up things for

what

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you believe in.

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I, however, and many others, have rid themselves of
arthritis, aches

and

Quoted message said:

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Quoted message said:

pains, constant diarrhea and constipation, chronic
food and chemical allergies, cholesterol, high blood
pressure problems and a mass of

other

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

health afflictions.

For Pete's sake, you don't even know the basic blood
types so how

could

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Quoted message said:

you

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in your total ignorance have any clue what is good for
them and what

isn't.

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But then I am beating my head against the wall here
because the

attitude

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Quoted message said:

you

Quoted message said:

came in with is the attitude you will go out with
until you become

tired

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of

Quoted message said:

being deathly sick constantly. I hope you are blessed
with good health

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

this never becomes an issue for you.

If your parents are seeking "strange" eating habits it
is more than

likely

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

they suffer from health problems and are looking for a
cure and the

Blood

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Type diet may be the answer for them or even one of
them.

How much money are they paying out for this
diet?....none?

How much extra is the food costing?...none?

Is there foods you will not enjoy mom making for you
anymore?....Yes?

Give it up. It sounds like you are a only chasing
their money and

want

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

speedy death for them....LOL

"Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:-
[email hidden]...
> cross posted to sci.med and sci.med.nutrition
>
> My idiot in-laws are on this new diet kick. The one
> by Adamo(sp??() about the diet being limited by your
> blood type. I know that the

diet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> is pure bunk, and am looking for some information
> that I can use to convince them of this.
>
> One of the things I am looking for is the different
> types of blood typing systems. I know there is ABO,
> Rh, Kell. But what are the others, and what are the
> ratios of the various sub-groups? (For example, from
> what i have seen, in the ABO system, there is 43%A,
> 39%O, 13%B and 5%AB; Rh is 83% (+)ve and 17% (-)ve;
> Kell is 91%

(-)ve

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> and 9 % (+)ve).
>
> Any other sites that have scientific evidence that
> this diet is bunk would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcel Beaudoin
>
> (Do not reply to hotmail addy, it is swamped by
> spam, reply to

sci.med

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> or to me at the following e-mail addy:
>
> mbeau at sympatico dot ca
>
> )

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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"Scientific Evidence" based on what?

How about scientific tests or studies in a controlled
environment. Where the intake of food is monitored and
controlled. All extraneous effects are eliminated and
effects on the body can be directly related to the food they
are eating.

Quoted message said:

If you read up on the subject you will find their cause
effects test described in detail. Where is the "scientific
evidence" that this is Usenet? Show me some. Sometimes the
evidence is thousands, probably tens of thousands of
testimonials from people trying it. Ever heard the term
"double-blind study"? It is based on peoples (the
subjects) testimonials 99% of the time. When the test
antidepressants do you think they scientifically test
their skin temperature as an indicator? What machine would
you hook them up to do your "scientific evidence"?

Ummm. Nice try, but still wrong. In a double-blind study,
again, everything is carefully controlled. For a study to be
a double-blind study, neither the participants or the
doctors prescribing the medicine know whether they are
getting the medication or a placebo. For something like a
diet, this cannot be done, unless you plan on putting all
the food in a blender and making them drink a mystery shake
three times a day.

Quoted message said:

With so much of your so-called "scientific evidence" being
scientifically disproved everyday, what the hell does it
mean? The end result is the people's testimonials. Only a
few years ago "Scientific evidence" could prove it was
impossible for a honey bee to fly.

The thing with the way science works, is that when someone
comes out with a new theory, people look for independant
confirmation that it works. They also look for evidence that
it doesn't work. It is up to the person(s) giving the new
theory to give reason's why it works. The more radical the
theory, the more evidence is required.

Quoted message said:

If I saw a dietician or a doctor they would tell me to eat
more grains and fiber. meanwhile half the osteoporosis
victims are that way because of a gluten intolerance. Tell
them they need to eat more grains when it almost destroyed
them and probably has destroyed half their digestive
system over the years. tell the arthritics to eat
grains...but they need them because the nutritionalists
tell them it is good for them. Believe me us celiacs do
much better without grains. Blood type O people cannot
typically tolerate grains.

Gee. And here most Drs and MDs think that osteoperosis
is due to a lack of calcium in the bones. Don't try to
mix people with a bone disease with people who have an
intolerance for glutens. What about people who,
according to this diet, should eat grains yet are also
allergic to gluten?

Quoted message said:

Similar to this is the Asian people that cannot tolerate
lactose. They all just "happen" to have the same blood
type but it's all just [censored] and "scientifically
unfounded".

Ummm. The inability to tolerate lactose has nothing to
do with what type of blood you have. It has to do with
the fact that the body doesn't produce an enzyme that
digests lactose.

Quoted message said:

Things are only "scientifically unfounded" when you want
them to be for some other agenda.

No. I *never* said scientifically unfounded, those are your
words. I said I am looking for evidence that the diet is
good or bad.

Quoted message said:

For cripes sakes "atomic theory" is "scientifically
unfounded". Nobody can prove things are made of atoms.
Nobody has ever seen one. All theory.

Bzzzzzt!! Wrong. They have. They have manipulated them. They
have photographed them. IBM has even moved the atoms on a
surface to spell IBM to show that they could.

Quoted message said:

Better yet, you produce some "scientific evidence" the
blood type diet doesn't work. Start from the other end and
prove it that way....ooooops that is what you want
somebody to do for you and it ain't gonna' happen without
conjecture and stretching thing a long way.

OK. How about some the "clotting" of red blood cells that he
says is caused by eating the wrong food groups is
irreversible and would rapidly clog the capillaries in the
body. This would result in the death of places where the
capillaries are the smallest. Ends of fingers, toes, nose
and ears. Last I checked, most people still have all their
extremities.

Thanks for playing.

Marcel

"Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3-
[email hidden]...

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What about PhD types? Bet ya' didn't know about PhD
negative did ya'?

You didn't really answer my question of what do you eat
for all those

types

Quoted message said:

since you think that type is important for diet. You can
come up with testimonials for those also just to make it
more complete.

Quoted message said:

What about them?

Let me help you out here. With P types you can get UTI's
because the Ecoli can attach to the antigen with their
pili and thus avoid washing off with the urine flow. You
would then have that blood type drink plenty of cranberry
juice. Duffy blood groups are susceptible to malaria
vivax. You would want these people to "eat less iron"
according to Doe and since it may lie dormant in the liver
for years you would not recommend alcohol for these
people. You can then get testimonials from the people and
ignore the bad ones (non believers). You really lack
imagination by just using ABO.

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"Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
.-"]news:[email hidden].-
com...
> try this website
>
> www.dadamo.com and see for yourself. Don't attack
> something because

you

Quoted message said:

do

Quoted message said:

> not understand it.
>
> The blood type diet is the best thing I have ever
> done and I would
recommend
> it to anybody with health problems.
>
> My wife Blood type A felt no better after a few
> months of it and no

worse.

Quoted message said:

What about the other types such as M,N,S, Fya,Fyb,

Lea,Leb,Jka,Jkb,E,e,C,c,I,i,P,Bg,Sda,Sdb,Di,Yt,Bg,Ch,Lua,Lu-
b,U,Kpa.kpb,jsa,j

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sb,Jka,Jkb and many more. Why don't you eat what is
appropriate for

those

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

blood types? You ignore what you want to ignore and
make up things for

what

Quoted message said:

you believe in.

> I, however, and many others, have rid themselves of
> arthritis, aches

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> pains, constant diarrhea and constipation, chronic
> food and chemical allergies, cholesterol, high blood
> pressure problems and a mass of

other

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> health afflictions.
>
> For Pete's sake, you don't even know the basic blood
> types so how

could

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you
> in your total ignorance have any clue what is good
> for them and what
isn't.
> But then I am beating my head against the wall here
> because the

attitude

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you
> came in with is the attitude you will go out with
> until you become

tired

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of
> being deathly sick constantly. I hope you are
> blessed with good

health

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

> this never becomes an issue for you.
>
> If your parents are seeking "strange" eating habits
> it is more than

likely

Quoted message said:

> they suffer from health problems and are looking for
> a cure and the

Blood

Quoted message said:

> Type diet may be the answer for them or even one of
> them.
>
> How much money are they paying out for this
> diet?....none?
>
> How much extra is the food costing?...none?
>
> Is there foods you will not enjoy mom making for you

anymore?....Yes?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> Give it up. It sounds like you are a only chasing
> their money and

want

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

> speedy death for them....LOL
>
>
> "Mudbunny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message new-
> s:[email hidden]...
> > cross posted to sci.med and sci.med.nutrition
> >
> > My idiot in-laws are on this new diet kick. The
> > one by

Adamo(sp??()

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > about the diet being limited by your blood type. I
> > know that the

diet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > is pure bunk, and am looking for some information
> > that I can use

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > convince them of this.
> >
> > One of the things I am looking for is the
> > different types of blood typing systems. I know
> > there is ABO, Rh, Kell. But what are the others,
> > and what are the ratios of the various sub-groups?
> > (For example, from what i have seen, in the ABO
> > system, there is 43%A, 39%O, 13%B and 5%AB; Rh is
> > 83% (+)ve and 17% (-)ve; Kell is 91%

(-)ve

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > and 9 % (+)ve).
> >
> > Any other sites that have scientific evidence that
> > this diet is

bunk

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marcel Beaudoin
> >
> > (Do not reply to hotmail addy, it is swamped by
> > spam, reply to

sci.med

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > or to me at the following e-mail addy:
> >
> > mbeau at sympatico dot ca
> >
> > )
>
>

Your words:

"Any other sites that have scientific evidence that this
diet is bunk would be greatly appreciated"

"I said I am looking for evidence that the diet is
good or bad."

You have your answer already. Do you need somebody to hold
your hand or do you like the argue only? You wouldn't listen
to anybody that didn;t agree with you. Lost cause. I hope
you find what you are looking for.

[censored] and won't answer below "Mudbunny" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Scientific Evidence" based on what?

How about scientific tests or studies in a controlled
environment. Where the intake of food is monitored and
controlled. All extraneous effects are eliminated and
effects on the body can be directly related to the food
they are eating.

Quoted message said:

If you read up on the subject you will find their cause
effects test described in detail. Where is the
"scientific evidence" that this is

Usenet?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Show me some. Sometimes the evidence is thousands,
probably tens of thousands of testimonials from people
trying it. Ever heard the term "double-blind study"? It
is based on peoples (the subjects) testimonials

99%

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of the time. When the test antidepressants do you
think they

scientifically

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

test their skin temperature as an indicator? What
machine would you

hook

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

them up to do your "scientific evidence"?

Ummm. Nice try, but still wrong. In a double-blind study,
again, everything is carefully controlled. For a study to
be a double-blind study, neither the participants or the
doctors prescribing the medicine know whether they are
getting the medication or a placebo. For something like a
diet, this cannot be done, unless you plan on putting all
the food in a blender and making them drink a mystery
shake three times a day.

Quoted message said:

With so much of your so-called "scientific
evidence" being

scientifically

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

disproved everyday, what the hell does it mean? The end
result is the people's testimonials. Only a few years
ago "Scientific evidence" could prove it was impossible
for a honey bee to fly.

The thing with the way science works, is that when someone
comes out with a new theory, people look for independant
confirmation that it works. They also look for evidence
that it doesn't work. It is up to the person(s) giving the
new theory to give reason's why it works. The more radical
the theory, the more evidence is required.

Quoted message said:

If I saw a dietician or a doctor they would tell me to
eat more grains

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fiber. meanwhile half the osteoporosis victims are that
way because of a gluten intolerance. Tell them they need
to eat more grains when it

almost

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

destroyed them and probably has destroyed half their
digestive system

over

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the years. tell the arthritics to eat grains...but they
need them

because

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the nutritionalists tell them it is good for them.
Believe me us celiacs

do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

much better without grains. Blood type O people cannot
typically

tolerate

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grains.

Gee. And here most Drs and MDs think that osteoperosis
is due to a lack of calcium in the bones. Don't try to
mix people with a bone disease with people who have an
intolerance for glutens. What about people who,
according to this diet, should eat grains yet are also
allergic to gluten?

Quoted message said:

Similar to this is the Asian people that cannot tolerate
lactose. They

all

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just "happen" to have the same blood type but it's all
just [censored] and "scientifically unfounded".

Ummm. The inability to tolerate lactose has nothing to do
with what type of blood you have. It has to do with the
fact that the body doesn't produce an enzyme that digests
lactose.

Quoted message said:

Things are only "scientifically unfounded" when you want
them to be for

some

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

other agenda.

No. I *never* said scientifically unfounded, those are
your words. I said I am looking for evidence that the diet
is good or bad.

Quoted message said:

For cripes sakes "atomic theory" is "scientifically
unfounded". Nobody

can

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

prove things are made of atoms. Nobody has ever seen
one. All theory.

Bzzzzzt!! Wrong. They have. They have manipulated them.
They have photographed them. IBM has even moved the atoms
on a surface to spell IBM to show that they could.

Quoted message said:

Better yet, you produce some "scientific evidence" the
blood type diet doesn't work. Start from the other end
and prove it that way....ooooops

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is what you want somebody to do for you and it ain't
gonna' happen

without

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

conjecture and stretching thing a long way.

OK. How about some the "clotting" of red blood cells that
he says is caused by eating the wrong food groups is
irreversible and would rapidly clog the capillaries in the
body. This would result in the death of places where the
capillaries are the smallest. Ends of fingers, toes, nose
and ears. Last I checked, most people still have all their
extremities.

Thanks for playing.

Marcel

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:40:13 GMT, "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]>
posted:

Quoted message said:

What about PhD types? Bet ya' didn't know about PhD
negative did ya'?

What about them?

What about them? I believe there is no such thing, and
Google agrees with me 🙂