Looking for advice......

pawhe said:

......on pedometers. So I thought I'd try a walking news-group. But a quick message search threw
up nothing.

Hardly anyone bothers with them.

Quoted message said:

Am I putting my foot in it (pun most certainly intended) by asking about them - i.e. do serious
walkers not bother with them????

Correct. We all use GPS these days.

Quoted message said:

Anyway - can anyone offer advice? Internet searching seems to bring up the Omron HJ-104? (Or is
the HJ-105 just the updated version) as a contender (at around GBP16.99)? What to look for?

GPS.

Quoted message said:

What make to prefer/

Garmin, Magellan, Lowrance

Quoted message said:

avoid?

All pedometers. ;-)

Quoted message said:

Thanks in advance......

Any time.

Paul
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Quoted message said:

......on pedometers. So I thought I'd try a walking news-group. But a quick message search threw
up nothing. Am I putting my foot in it (pun most certainly intended) by asking about them - i.e.
do serious walkers not bother with them????

Careful. 'Serious walker' is often used as a term of abuse for the over equipped layabouts whose
natural habitat is the high street. (Not to be confused with High Street). :-)

Pedometers get mentioned from time to time (not often) but I don't recall anything remotely
complementary. On a flat road they are not exactly accurate and for hill walking a straight guess is
likely to be as accurate.

Quoted message said:

Anyway - can anyone offer advice? Internet searching seems to bring up the Omron HJ-104? (Or is
the HJ-105 just the updated version) as a contender (at around GBP16.99)? What to look for? What
make to prefer/avoid?

Quoted message said:

Thanks in advance......

If you want accuracy and have a bit more spare cash a GPS will be more accurate than the odometer on
your car or the cyclometer on your push bike provided you give it a reasonable view of the sky.

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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:27:33 -0000, "pawhe" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

......on pedometers. So I thought I'd try a walking news-group. But a quick message search threw up
nothing. Am I putting my foot in it (pun most certainly intended) by asking about them - i.e. do
serious walkers not bother with them????

Anyway - can anyone offer advice? Internet searching seems to bring up the Omron HJ-104? (Or is the
HJ-105 just the updated version) as a contender (at around GBP16.99)? What to look for? What make
to prefer/avoid?

Avoid them since they don't work. They may be OK for hard concrete where there is a regular thud as
you place your feet down, but on an uneven hillside there's little point. You could probably guess
and be more accurate and more consistent.

Why do you want one? I mean, are you just wanting to measure distance or are you after one of the
calorie counters? Mr Saunders has a good formula for effort and calorie consumprion in hills - if he
obliges then you can see why a pedometer is probably not such a good way of working it out.

If you want straight distance then a GPS with odometer function is preferable. (although more
pricey, naturally)

Quoted message said:

Thanks in advance......

P.

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"Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

pawhe said:

......on pedometers. So I thought I'd try a walking news-group. But a quick message search
threw up nothing.

Hardly anyone bothers with them.

Quoted message said:

Am I putting my foot in it (pun most certainly intended) by asking about them - i.e. do serious
walkers not bother with them????

Correct. We all use GPS these days.

Isn't there some watch sized GPS based thing out now aimed at runners that tells you how far you've
run and how fast you're going? I did borrow someone's pedometer back in the summer to play about
with. (No idea what make). Quite surprised how accurate it was on the flat.

Garmin's Forerunner garmin.comforerunner201Open ↗

It is a bit big for a watch. It will be interesting to see how well it performs in its
intended role.

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Hhhmmmmmmm.......

As it happens - I'm happy with my Dell Axim c/w Holux GPS CF Card working alongside TomTom Nav2 (for
car navigation) and Fugawi UK OS Mapping with PocketPC support for the odd occasion when I go
'wandering around'. The missus, on the other hand, just wants something (cheap - and not my Axim) to
record how far she walks the dog every day.

GBP17 is a lot cheaper than another PocketPC GPS set-up....!!

So - back to pedometers....!!!!!!! ?????

P.

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Quoted message said:

pawhe said:

......on pedometers. So I thought I'd try a walking news-group. But a quick message search threw
up nothing.

Hardly anyone bothers with them.

Quoted message said:

Am I putting my foot in it (pun most certainly intended) by asking about them - i.e. do serious
walkers not bother with them????

Correct. We all use GPS these days.

Quoted message said:

Anyway - can anyone offer advice? Internet searching seems to bring up the Omron HJ-104? (Or is
the HJ-105 just the updated version) as a contender (at around GBP16.99)? What to look for?

GPS.

Quoted message said:

What make to prefer/

Garmin, Magellan, Lowrance

Quoted message said:

avoid?

All pedometers. ;-)

Quoted message said:

Thanks in advance......

Any time.

Paul
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"Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

pawhe said:

......on pedometers. So I thought I'd try a walking news-group. But a quick message search threw
up nothing.

Hardly anyone bothers with them.

Quoted message said:

Am I putting my foot in it (pun most certainly intended) by asking about them - i.e. do serious
walkers not bother with them????

Correct. We all use GPS these days.

Isn't there some watch sized GPS based thing out now aimed at runners that tells you how far you've
run and how fast you're going? I did borrow someone's pedometer back in the summer to play about
with. (No idea what make). Quite surprised how accurate it was on the flat.

"Roger Chapman" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Careful. 'Serious walker' is often used as a term of abuse for the over equipped layabouts whose
natural habitat is the high street. (Not to be confused with High Street). :-)

Reminds me of the 1st time I went up Hellvellyn (1st hill anywhere actually) on a chilly December
day. I thought the bloke we chatted to at the top meant he'd had to use crampons and ice axe just to
pop down to the shops.

Chris Street said:

or are you after one of the calorie counters? Mr Saunders has a good formula for effort and
calorie consumprion in hills - if he obliges then you can see why a pedometer is probably not such
a good way of working it out.

Simple point system.

2 kilometres of distance on roads = 1 point. 1 kilometre of distance offroad = 1 point. 100 metres
of ascent = 1 point.

Add the two together to get a point rating for a walk.

Multiply the points by 125 to get a reasonably good estimate of kcal expenditure.

Paul
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Paul Saunders said:

Chris Street said:

or are you after one of the calorie counters? Mr Saunders has a good formula for effort and
calorie consumprion in hills - if he obliges then you can see why a pedometer is probably not
such a good way of working it out.

Simple point system.

2 kilometres of distance on roads = 1 point. 1 kilometre of distance offroad = 1 point. 100 metres
of ascent = 1 point.

^^^^^^ - whaich with a pedometer of course is.....?

Quoted message said:

Add the two together to get a point rating for a walk.

Multiply the points by 125 to get a reasonably good estimate of kcal expenditure.

Paul

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looking at flat fields and that includes the castle.