"Look Ma!, No Brakes"

(Paul J. Berg) said:

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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

`

The needs of hipsters are gravely important. This contrasted with MHLs
is almost worthy of a Zippy panel.

Paul J. Berg said:

`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

`

Yea but does what Oregon say even matter? According to the C.P.S.C.
website,

CFR title 16 1512.5 Requirements for braking system.
(a) Braking system. Bicycles shall be equipped with front- and
rear-wheel brakes or rear-wheel brakes only.

Are the CPSC regulations on goods sold, or on what may be used?
~

DougC said:

Paul J. Berg said:

`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Quoted message said:

`

Yea but does what Oregon say even matter? According to the C.P.S.C.
website,

CFR title 16 1512.5 Requirements for braking system.
(a) Braking system. Bicycles shall be equipped with front- and
rear-wheel brakes or rear-wheel brakes only.

Are the CPSC regulations on goods sold, or on what may be used?
~

Why do you not want a brake unless you own a unicycle? Somebody's
sneaking some stuff in with it, take a better look?

DougC said:

Paul J. Berg said:

`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Quoted message said:

`

Yea but does what Oregon say even matter? According to the C.P.S.C.
website,

CFR title 16 1512.5 Requirements for braking system.
(a) Braking system. Bicycles shall be equipped with front- and
rear-wheel brakes or rear-wheel brakes only.

Are the CPSC regulations on goods sold, or on what may be used?
~

Consumer Public Safety Commission regulations cover goods sold in the
US but not second-hand. This gives them the authority to initiate or
suggest recalls, which are often done by the mfg. without an action
from anybody. Yes, they set the requirement for how goods may be sold
and what types of equipment are allowed, imported or "domestic" (from
any source). They are not really that exact (hazardous substances on
children's item are one thing that is recalled often) and they seem to
leave it to the supplier/mfg to correct it.

Still, need I ask if even a drug addict or even severly mentally
impaired person would want to use a brakeless bicycle?

What is the law for then? There must be something else.

"DougC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Paul J. Berg said:

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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school zone!"

-c

gatt said:

"DougC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

Paul J. Berg said:

`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school zone!"

-c

A 26 inch cruiser is a one speed bike, so it is a banana seat bike in
basic form. Disconnecting the coaster is easy, but why?

Either of those will hit 20 mph going downhill. It's likely there will
be a street intersecting the road at the bottom of that hill and
little to see around on either side.

BAM!

Look Ma...no life.

So WHAT is the purpose of the bill, REALLY?

gatt said:

"DougC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Paul J. Berg said:

`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school
zone!"

You've obviously never heard The Legend of Little Billy Baka! (He did 65
mph on a trike...twice!)

Bill "got a ticket that proves it, too (save for that pesky producing it
part)" S.

Steven said:

A 26 inch cruiser is a one speed bike, so it is a banana seat bike in
basic form. Disconnecting the coaster is easy, but why?

Because a group of folks is making it into a Freedom issue, and
requesting relief from (dread) Gubmint Regulation.

Quoted message said:

So WHAT is the purpose of the bill, REALLY?

To make legal what is presently not - operating a bicycle with no
manual brake on streets.

Bill Sornson said:

gatt said:

"DougC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Paul J. Berg wrote:
> `
> Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
> requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school
zone!"

You've obviously never heard The Legend of Little Billy Baka! (He did 65
mph on a trike...twice!)

Bill "got a ticket that proves it, too (save for that pesky producing it
part)" S.

I am getting so tired of hearing that. I coasted that hill with a car
and barely hit 25 MPH, so maybe 20 on a trike. Whatever the few die hard
idiots think, I did it at 4, or maybe at best 5 years old. Did you do
anything exciting at 4 or 5? Probably not. The small town cops knew me
well enough to know where to take me home.
And the 160-170++ on a motorcycle is real, but I learned not to sit up
at those speeds, because the wind made me pull back on the bars so hard
I had no steering.
Live life, don't rag on me for having had the nards to actually do it.
Wimps.
Bill Baka

In article <[email hidden]>,

Steven said:

DougC said:

Paul J. Berg said:

`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Quoted message said:

`

Yea but does what Oregon say even matter? According to the C.P.S.C.
website,

CFR title 16 1512.5 Requirements for braking system.
(a) Braking system. Bicycles shall be equipped with front- and
rear-wheel brakes or rear-wheel brakes only.

Are the CPSC regulations on goods sold, or on what may be used?
~

Why do you not want a brake unless you own a unicycle? Somebody's
sneaking some stuff in with it, take a better look?

My unicycle has a brake on it. Well, the big one does, anyway.

..max

Don Homuth said:

On 7 Mar 2007 17:07:45 -0800, "Steven"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So WHAT is the purpose of the bill, REALLY?

Quoted message said:

To make legal what is presently not - operating a bicycle with no
manual brake on streets.

Why stop there? How about motorcycles without brakes? Cars?
Semi-trailers?

Bill "FOOT FREEDOM FOR EVERYONE" S.

Bill Baka said:

Bill Sornson said:

gatt said:

"DougC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Paul J. Berg wrote:
>> `
>> Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
>> requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.
Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school
zone!"

You've obviously never heard The Legend of Little Billy Baka! (He
did 65 mph on a trike...twice!)

Bill "got a ticket that proves it, too (save for that pesky
producing it part)" S.

I am getting so tired of hearing that. I coasted that hill with a car
and barely hit 25 MPH, so maybe 20 on a trike. Whatever the few die
hard idiots think, I did it at 4, or maybe at best 5 years old. Did
you do anything exciting at 4 or 5? Probably not. The small town cops
knew me well enough to know where to take me home.
And the 160-170++ on a motorcycle is real, but I learned not to sit up
at those speeds, because the wind made me pull back on the bars so
hard I had no steering.
Live life, don't rag on me for having had the nards to actually do it.
Wimps.
Bill Baka

I literally have tears rolling down my cheeks. YOU'RE THE BEST, IRON
BILL!!!

Bill "deep thanks" S.

Bill Sornson said:

Don Homuth said:

On 7 Mar 2007 17:07:45 -0800, "Steven"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So WHAT is the purpose of the bill, REALLY?

Quoted message said:

To make legal what is presently not - operating a bicycle with no
manual brake on streets.

Why stop there? How about motorcycles without brakes? Cars?
Semi-trailers?

Bill "FOOT FREEDOM FOR EVERYONE" S.

There may still be a few messengers out
there on freewheel bikes with no brakes,
using their shoes to stop. Pure Flintstone
action. There was one kid in my city who
did this for about a week just for fun. He
was accompanied everywhere by the smell
of molten rubber. Now that's Americana.

Robert

Bill Sornson said:

Don Homuth said:

On 7 Mar 2007 17:07:45 -0800, "Steven"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So WHAT is the purpose of the bill, REALLY?

Quoted message said:

To make legal what is presently not - operating a bicycle with no
manual brake on streets.

Why stop there? How about motorcycles without brakes? Cars?
Semi-trailers?

What would fixed gear cyclists have to say, if the law didn't required
motor vehicles to have working brake lights or turn signals?

Paul J. Berg said:

Bill Sornson said:

Don Homuth said:

On 7 Mar 2007 17:07:45 -0800, "Steven"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

> So WHAT is the purpose of the bill, REALLY?

Quoted message said:

To make legal what is presently not - operating a bicycle with no
manual brake on streets.

Why stop there? How about motorcycles without brakes? Cars?
Semi-trailers?

What would fixed gear cyclists have to say, if the law didn't required
motor vehicles to have working brake lights or turn signals?

MMMFFFFFFF!!

"Paul J. Berg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

`

That's a bad idea.

Gooserider said:

"Paul J. Berg" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

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Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Quoted message said:

`

That's a bad idea.

I didn't require 20 posts to think so either.

gatt said:

"DougC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

Paul J. Berg said:

`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

Is a "fixed-gear" bike basically a one-speed? That's sort of like
requiring brakes on a tricycle or a Big Wheel, right?

NO, fixed gear ala track bike, no coasting. Single spped technically a
single speed freewheel, coasting possible, brakes essential. Not
really with a fixie altho at least one brake smart, IMO.

Quoted message said:

"We clocked your kid at two miles an hour! In a frickin' school zone!"

-c

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul J.

Berg said:

`
Oregon Senate Bill 729 would exempt fixed-gear bikes from a law
requiring that bicycles on public roads have brakes.

So what? Fixed-gear bikes don't really need brakes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-gear_bicycle
"Because there is no freewheel mechanism, fixed gear bicycles cannot
coast. Whenever the rear wheel is turning, the pedals turn in the same
direction. By resisting the forward motion of the pedals, a rider is
able to slow the bike to a stop, without the aid of a brake."

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