long distance uncomfort

Was that a drastic increase from what you've been doing before?

genedan said:

Was that a drastic increase from what you've been doing before?

abit more than usualy 50 55 miles ,the annoying thing is i wasnt phyiscally tired so much as my rear end ...

hod65 said:

abit more than usualy 50 55 miles ,the annoying thing is i wasnt phyiscally tired so much as my rear end ...

Just like you have to "break in" shoes and stuff, I've found I have to "break in" my, er, undercarriage at the beginning of every season.

It is unfun.

It could be that you're just not used to that distance and overworked yourself. The general guidelines are that you shouldn't increase your long ride by more than 10% a week.

You need butt muscles. 😄

garage sale GT said:

You need butt muscles. 😄

hahahaha oh Butt muscles? Thats rich. I wonder if you can work out your buttmuscles. That would be wierd

hod65 said:

did my first 75 miles today with a break for sandwich and coffee no problems only backside sore ,is this something you just accept after so many miles ? no matter what saddle you have ..

I always used to experience some seatbone soreness after long rides, but the more I would ride I'd usually get over the soreness very quickly.

I'd just see how quickly you recover and when you do that long ride again you can compare and see if you do better.

It is, of course, possible that you might benefit from a different saddle. No pain if you buy and try a Brooks from wallbike; they accept returns within 6 months of purchase.

Major94 said:

hahahaha oh Butt muscles? Thats rich. I wonder if you can work out your buttmuscles. That would be wierd

😕 Try going clipless. 😕

garage sale GT said:

😕 Try going clipless. 😕

just use pedals straps as have knee problem need flexibility in my feet this saddle is oridgional on the cube aeiral have it for six months now ,have pretty good riding shorts that are comfortable so maybe i should try new saddle there is no centre cut out on current one this may make a difference ..is it possible to ride 75 plus without disscomfort anyway?

hod65 said:

just use pedals straps as have knee problem need flexibility in my feet this saddle is oridgional on the cube aeiral have it for six months now ,have pretty good riding shorts that are comfortable so maybe i should try new saddle there is no centre cut out on current one this may make a difference ..is it possible to ride 75 plus without disscomfort anyway?

I agree with Chavez that your pain is due to not being used to the saddle yet. I have had rides that were shorter than 75 that were ended early due to butt pain early in the season, and then rode centuries later on the same bike with the same saddle and pedals. I would give it a few more weeks, and then if the pain has not either disappeared or subsided, then I would consider a new saddle. You might also try adjusting your saddle a little further forward or getting a stem that is a little shorter. I was trying out a new bike this weekend that had a longer than what I needed stem and I kept finding myself moving forward on the saddle so that my sit bones were hanging over the side of the saddle rather than on the saddle.

Got it... here was my solution.
Carry a small bottle of baby powder w/you. At 30 miles stop and throw some down on your chamio. Your butt is not sore rather the moister creates the RUBBB that will start getting really uncomfortable after 3-4 hours in the saddle. Trust me .. This will cool everything down and give some temporary relief for the remainder of your ride. I do 75's 3 times a week and if I fail to do this, I'm always very sore coming home.

Rock

hod65 said:

just use pedals straps as have knee problem need flexibility in my feet this saddle is oridgional on the cube aeiral have it for six months now ,have pretty good riding shorts that are comfortable so maybe i should try new saddle there is no centre cut out on current one this may make a difference ..is it possible to ride 75 plus without disscomfort anyway?

I was answering Major94's question/statement about whether it's possible to train your butt muscles. Of course it is. When you ride with clips, the bottom of your stroke becomes kind of like a leg curl.

rockapple said:

Got it... here was my solution.
Carry a small bottle of baby powder w/you. At 30 miles stop and throw some down on your chamio. Your butt is not sore rather the moister creates the RUBBB that will start getting really uncomfortable after 3-4 hours in the saddle. Trust me .. This will cool everything down and give some temporary relief for the remainder of your ride. I do 75's 3 times a week and if I fail to do this, I'm always very sore coming home.

Rock

thanks for both tips moving saddle a bit foward will try the baby powder allso as i failed to mention got caught in heavy shower and shorts got wetting come to think of it ...am aiming for a 150 km in august in waterford sean kelly sponsered ride building up to this one during summer...fingers crossed ....cheers

hod65 said:

thanks for both tips moving saddle a bit foward will try the baby powder allso as i failed to mention got caught in heavy shower and shorts got wetting come to think of it ...am aiming for a 150 km in august in waterford sean kelly sponsered ride building up to this one during summer...fingers crossed ....cheers

Hod, I'm not sure I understand. Are you experiencing a skin chaffing issue or are you experiencing seat bones bruising issue?

Adjusting your saddle and using baby powder are treating two different things...

I have experience with saddle soreness in the past when i would ride over 100kms. Wearing 2 pairs of cycling shorts would help, as would rubbing a bit of petroleum jelly on the seams of my shorts, the seams of the chamois part.

They say it takes 2 to 3 weeks for a saddle to "break in", if its not comfortable after 3 weeks, change it.

I have a very comfortable saddle on my mtb now, its a wtb, rocket V i think.

hod65 said:

just use pedals straps as have knee problem need flexibility in my feet this saddle is oridgional on the cube aeiral have it for six months now ,have pretty good riding shorts that are comfortable so maybe i should try new saddle there is no centre cut out on current one this may make a difference ..is it possible to ride 75 plus without disscomfort anyway?

It's fairly easy to ride long distances (ie over 75miles) with no discomfort at all.

Just as important as having a saddle that fits is having the saddle positioned correctly. I used to use a San Marco Regal years ago, which has no cut outs, and that was really comfortable. Wanting something a little lighter I sat on a Specialized butt-o-meter to get the 'sit bones' measured and got a Specialized Toupe carbon/titanium thing with minimal padding and it's supremely comfy.

There's a huge difference between 'good' shorts and 'great' shorts.

I find that Pearl Izumi's high end shorts are amazing. Even after really long rides in the mountains I don't suffer from saddle woes.

Not sure who said that shoes need to be broken in... That may have been true up until the early 80's when leather soles and slotted cleats (that were nailed on) were all the rage - but I'm not really too sure how you "break in" a molded composite soled shoe with non-stretchable uppers. Buy shoes that fit...

+1, or maybe better +3, on pearl izumi's better shorts. I'd been using their 3D neo something or other and had the wife buy me a second pair for xmas. Cooler winter wx I've been using some alternates, but in another week or two I'll be in the pearls until November

64Paramount said:

Hod, I'm not sure I understand. Are you experiencing a skin chaffing issue or are you experiencing seat bones bruising issue?

Adjusting your saddle and using baby powder are treating two different things...

well what it feels like is a soreness just in the sit bone areas and tenderness now i did get wet so that may have contributed there was no bruising there ......