Loch Lomand

In article <[email hidden]>, Shirl
<[email hidden]> writes

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Can anyone confirm that Loch Lomand used to be called Loch Leven. If so, when was it changed. A
1560 map does refer it Loch Lomand.

It was called Loch Leven by an 8th century writer called Nennius and while the loch has changed
its name the river which flows out of Loch Lomond (not Lomand) is the River Leven flowing down the
Vale of Leven.

It is thought that 'leven' may come from a Celtic word 'limo' meaning flood while 'lomond' is from
'llumon' meaning beacon, also found in Welsh as in Plynlimmon. To add to the confusion, the Lomond
Hills overlook Loch Leven in Kinross, while Ben Lomond overlooks Loch Lomond which was once called
Loch Leven!

There's also a link with the name Lennox, as that family used to own lots of land around Loch Lomond
and their name had the earlier spelling of 'Levenaux'.

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Malcolm Ogilvie

In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm Ogilvie
<[email hidden]> writes

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There's also a link with the name Lennox, as that family used to own lots of land around Loch
Lomond and their name had the earlier spelling of 'Levenaux'.

The spelling 'Levenach' seems to be more common. AIUI, Lennox is a district name which gave rise to
a familial name, rather than vice versa.

Googling finds the original Gaelic as Leamhnachd, with alternative anglisations as Lennax,
Levenachs, and Levenauchen.
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Stewart Robert Hinsley

In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm Ogilvie
<[email hidden]> writes

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It is thought that 'leven' may come from a Celtic word 'limo' meaning flood

The Welsh word for flood is "Llif" where the "f" is sounded as a v

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Stewart Robert Hinsley said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm Ogilvie
<[email hidden]> writes

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There's also a link with the name Lennox, as that family used to own lots of land around Loch
Lomond and their name had the earlier spelling of 'Levenaux'.

The spelling 'Levenach' seems to be more common. AIUI, Lennox is a district name which gave rise to
a familial name, rather than vice versa.

Googling finds the original Gaelic as Leamhnachd, with alternative anglisations as Lennax,
Levenachs, and Levenauchen.

Many thanks for the information - will do sme more reading. Apologies for the typing error!

mcfall <[email hidden]> writes

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I also like loch lomand and would also like to no more about camping I have Walked the west
highland way a long time it took but what a good experience.

I suggest an investment in a dictionary OR the use of a sperl chucker for your future
postings .:-)))
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david hill

In article <[email hidden]>, david hill <[email hidden]> writes

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mcfall <[email hidden]> writes

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I also like loch lomand and would also like to no more about camping I have Walked the west
highland way a long time it took but what a good experience.

I suggest an investment in a dictionary OR the use of a sperl chucker for your future
postings .:-)))

Hi Dave, provided the content of the posting is understood, it is generally Non PC to criticise
spelling. To typo is human, to forgive - the norm.

Come back Adny all is forgiven :-)
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I also like loch lomand and would also like to no more about camping I have Walked the west highland
way a long time it took but what a good experience.

david hill said:

mcfall <[email hidden]> writes

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I also like loch lomand and would also like to no more about camping I have Walked the west
highland way a long time it took but what a good experience.

I suggest an investment in a dictionary OR the use of a sperl chucker for your future
postings .:-)))

I think these sort of remarks are unnecessary. You have, of course, assumed that the writer is an
adult and that their first language is English. I know of many who would do worse were it not for
their spell checker.

I had no difficulty understanding the message, and I suspect neither did anyone else, so it served
its purpose and I hope that the writer will not be put off from making further contributions to this
news group..

Alex.

Alex_Sh@w said:

david hill said:

mcfall <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I also like loch lomand and would also like to no more about camping I have Walked the west
highland way a long time it took but what a good experience.

I suggest an investment in a dictionary OR the use of a sperl chucker for your future
postings .:-)))

I think these sort of remarks are unnecessary. You have, of course, assumed that the writer is an
adult and that their first language is English. I know of many who would do worse were it not for
their spell checker.

I had no difficulty understanding the message, and I suspect neither did anyone else, so it served
its purpose and I hope that the writer will not be put off from making further contributions to
this news group..

A spurle chucker would only pick up lomand. Have you never seen this
people.biola.eduSpell checker poem.cfmOpen ↗

I have a spelling checker. It came with my PC. It plane lee marks four my revue Miss steaks aye
can knot see.

Eye ran this poem threw it. Your sure real glad two no. Its very polished in its weigh, My checker
tolled me sew.

etc.
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

In article <[email hidden]>, W. D. Grey <[email hidden]> writes

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In article <[email hidden]>, david hill <[email hidden]> writes

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mcfall <[email hidden]> writes

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I also like loch lomand and would also like to no more about camping I have Walked the west
highland way a long time it took but what a good experience.

I suggest an investment in a dictionary OR the use of a sperl chucker for your future
postings .:-)))

Hi Dave, provided the content of the posting is understood, it is generally Non PC to criticise
spelling. To typo is human, to forgive - the norm.

I think that is certainly the case for typos. However if I am consistently miss-spelling (say) a
Welsh mountain name I would appreciate being told the correct spelling.

(Spelling checkers however are not much good - Lomand and Lomond are equally likely to be missing,
and "no" is a valid word anyway)

Actually the poster sounds very much like on of our student crowd :-(

Bernard Hill Selkirk, Scotland

Bernard Hill <[email hidden]> wrote SNIP

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I think that is certainly the case for typos. However if I am consistently miss-spelling (say) a
Welsh mountain name I would appreciate being told the correct spelling.

(Spelling checkers however are not much good - Lomand and Lomond are equally likely to be missing,
and "no" is a valid word anyway)

Actually the poster sounds very much like on of our student crowd :-(

That IS basically what I presumed when I first posted + a smiley but then some people don't
understand irony.
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david hill

In article <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook <urwalk@p-t-
cook.freeserveSPAMTRAP.co.uk> writes

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Bernard Hill said:

I think that is certainly the case for typos. However if I am consistently miss-spelling (say) a
Welsh mountain name I would appreciate being told the correct spelling.

What you have to do is add the correctly spelt mountain names to your spell checker's custom list.

Don't have a spellchecker on this email software. Never deened it.

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Get a list of teh names and spell check it, pressing "add" ad infinitum. I've done it with the
Munros, I must get round to doing the Welsh stuff.

Bernard Hill Selkirk, Scotland

In article <[email hidden]>, Phil Cook <urwalk@p-t-
cook.freeserveSPAMTRAP.co.uk> writes

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Bernard Hill said:

I think that is certainly the case for typos. However if I am consistently miss-spelling (say) a
Welsh mountain name I would appreciate being told the correct spelling.

What you have to do is add the correctly spelt mountain names to your spell checker's custom list.
Get a list of teh names and spell check it, pressing "add" ad infinitum. I've done it with the
Munros, I must get round to doing the Welsh stuff.

For some software, there's certainly no need to do it that very laborious and time-consuming way. In
Word, for example, just save the list as a text file and then cut and paste the whole list into your
user dictionary, which is called Custom.dic. My copy of it is held in:
C:\program files\common files\Microsoft shared\proof\

And my e-mail and newsreading software uses the same dictionary as Microsoft Office, as does Outlook
Express, which is nice!

I don't know enough about Forte Agent to know what its dictionary file is called, but if you can
find it I'm pretty sure it would be a text file, too, and you could add to it in the same way.

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Malcolm Ogilvie

In article <[email hidden]>, John Laird <nospam@laird-
towers.org.uk> writes

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Malcolm Ogilvie said:

I don't know enough about Forte Agent to know what its dictionary file is called, but if you can
find it I'm pretty sure it would be a text file, too, and you could add to it in the same way.

Seems to be large binary files (*.clx) and smaller text files (*.tlx) in the installation
directory, with customised text files in the actual data folder. If you manually add words to the
customised files, you need to increase the word count on the first line (last number), and then add
one properly using Agent's own dialog boxes to get it to correctly fiddle something else and
recognise your additions. There is no import function that I could see.

Goodness, how complicated! Clearly you should change to something better
:-))

If the customised files are in fact text files, then you don't need an import function, because you
should just be able to cut and paste from another text file.

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Malcolm Ogilvie

In message <[email hidden]>, John Laird <nospam@laird-
towers.org.uk> writes

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I hardly find it much of a chore to click "add" when an unrecognised word pops up in the spell
checker !

Would you like to click add 2,340 times:

<http://www.pigsonthewing.org.uk/birdwords/> ?

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<web.amnesty.orgENGAMR510582003Open ↗

"mcfall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I also like loch lomand and would also like to no more about camping I have Walked the west
highland way a long time it took but what a good

experience.

ripe.netwhois.htmlOpen ↗ says above plonker is a student. By the sounds of him, he's
one of the burberry baseball capped thickos we have so much of in Scotland. He doesn't want an
answer nor will he be back. Interesting name, our chum is not from the east end then?

KRO

Bernard Hill said:

I think that is certainly the case for typos. However if I am consistently miss-spelling (say) a
Welsh mountain name I would appreciate being told the correct spelling.

What you have to do is add the correctly spelt mountain names to your spell checker's custom list.
Get a list of teh names and spell check it, pressing "add" ad infinitum. I've done it with the
Munros, I must get round to doing the Welsh stuff.
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

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Actually the poster sounds very much like on of our student crowd :-(

That was my assumption too, so I couldn't see much wrong with the corrections made to his spelling
or grammar. Serious posters with sensible queries rarely get treated that way.
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Malcolm Ogilvie said:

I don't know enough about Forte Agent to know what its dictionary file is called, but if you can
find it I'm pretty sure it would be a text file, too, and you could add to it in the same way.

Seems to be large binary files (*.clx) and smaller text files (*.tlx) in the installation directory,
with customised text files in the actual data folder. If you manually add words to the customised
files, you need to increase the word count on the first line (last number), and then add one
properly using Agent's own dialog boxes to get it to correctly fiddle something else and recognise
your additions. There is no import function that I could see.

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