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  1. sf said:
    ~patches~ said:

    DDIL now knows why those claws are banded and why
    the cat shouldn't play with their dinner 🙂

    Oh, man... she was a real ditz (and probably also emulating the
    kitchen scene from Annie Hall), but poor kitty... s/he didn't know!

    No, she isn't a ditz just wasn't thinking. She is really a sweetie.

  2. In article <1125317209.27edb992f69ef090373c8c75786f3f2b@teranews>,

    MoM said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >> I can find frozen crawfish tail meat, unadulterated. No seasoning,
    >> just
    >> the
    >> sweet meat. Comes in 1 lb. cryovac'd packages. I nearly bought some
    >> last
    >> weekend but my freezer is rapidly running out of room.
    >>
    >> Jill
    >>
    >>
    >
    > <lol> I know _that_ feeling!
    > It bites when something really good is on sale,
    > and there is no space in the freezer.....
    > --

    My problem is... I never seem to be able to pass up a deal and I always
    find
    room some where! To my husbands chagrin.

    MoM

    I know what you mean...
    But, I always end up having to clean out the big deep freezer every
    couple of years, and end up cooking up half of it for dog or chicken
    feed as it's too freezerburned to eat. :-(

    I'm going to buy a dry-erase board and hang it on the wall next to the
    freezer! Someone here suggested that and I thought it was a fantastic
    idea! I'm going to buy some of those plastic milk crates from wal-mart
    and number them, then organize the freezer and list what is in each
    basket and it's age on that board, then plan meals accordingly.

    I've finally started dating the bags I freeze stuff in, so this will
    work. I've got to get organized and list stuff so I stop wasting food!
    I'm fixin' to clean out the freezer again here shortly.....


    I don't have that problem any longer. I use my Tilia and vacuum seal
    everything. My problem is I have 2 large
    uprights. I emptied one to sell the house but it has slowly built up again.
    Mostly roasts on sale but
    some stuff I will throw because it was leftover from a party and I dont'
    want to take it with us in a
    month and I definitely don't want to eat it! I've lost 73 lbs and I refuse
    to gain anything back!

    MoM

    Well done! :-)
    I've only lost 45 and have 75 to go...

    I bought a Tilia as well and DO use it for stuff now that I know I am
    going to store long term, but I've not had it for very long and there is
    a lot of old stuff in the freezer right now. We have a big chest freezer.

    I still think the meal planning/inventory board is going to be the way
    to go. :-)

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  3. In article <1125317376.24d895fd610e728a2a13d7c313714238@teranews>,

    MoM said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I can find frozen crawfish tail meat, unadulterated. No seasoning,
    > just
    > the
    > sweet meat. Comes in 1 lb. cryovac'd packages. I nearly bought some
    > last
    > weekend but my freezer is rapidly running out of room.
    >
    > Jill
    >
    We'll probably be going to South Texas this winter. Would they be
    available
    there?

    MoM

    Yes!

    Look in the seafood section at HEB markets. :-)

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    I'll keep a copy of this so I won't forget.

    MoM

    Welcome! :-)
    Here in San Marcos, it's with the frozen fish over next to the fresh
    fish case, along with mixed bags of frozen stuff (one is a combo bag of
    shrimp, sliced squid and mussels) along with slabs of other frozen fish
    stuff.

    HEB also sells dry ice so you will be able to keep your purchase frozen
    while you travel!

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  4. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <1125317209.27edb992f69ef090373c8c75786f3f2b@teranews>,

    MoM said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >>
    > >> I can find frozen crawfish tail meat, unadulterated. No seasoning,
    > >> just
    > >> the
    > >> sweet meat. Comes in 1 lb. cryovac'd packages. I nearly bought
    > >> some
    > >> last
    > >> weekend but my freezer is rapidly running out of room.
    > >>
    > >> Jill
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > > <lol> I know _that_ feeling!
    > > It bites when something really good is on sale,
    > > and there is no space in the freezer.....
    > > --
    >
    > My problem is... I never seem to be able to pass up a deal and I
    > always
    > find
    > room some where! To my husbands chagrin.
    >
    > MoM
    >
    >

    I know what you mean...
    But, I always end up having to clean out the big deep freezer every
    couple of years, and end up cooking up half of it for dog or chicken
    feed as it's too freezerburned to eat. :-(

    I'm going to buy a dry-erase board and hang it on the wall next to the
    freezer! Someone here suggested that and I thought it was a fantastic
    idea! I'm going to buy some of those plastic milk crates from wal-mart
    and number them, then organize the freezer and list what is in each
    basket and it's age on that board, then plan meals accordingly.

    I've finally started dating the bags I freeze stuff in, so this will
    work. I've got to get organized and list stuff so I stop wasting food!
    I'm fixin' to clean out the freezer again here shortly.....


    I don't have that problem any longer. I use my Tilia and vacuum seal
    everything. My problem is I have 2 large
    uprights. I emptied one to sell the house but it has slowly built up
    again.
    Mostly roasts on sale but
    some stuff I will throw because it was leftover from a party and I dont'
    want to take it with us in a
    month and I definitely don't want to eat it! I've lost 73 lbs and I
    refuse
    to gain anything back!

    MoM

    Well done! :-)
    I've only lost 45 and have 75 to go...

    I bought a Tilia as well and DO use it for stuff now that I know I am
    going to store long term, but I've not had it for very long and there is
    a lot of old stuff in the freezer right now. We have a big chest freezer.

    I still think the meal planning/inventory board is going to be the way
    to go. :-)

    Cheers!


    I've got 27 to go. Then I can get free surgery!

    MoM

  5. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <1125317376.24d895fd610e728a2a13d7c313714238@teranews>,

    MoM said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > I can find frozen crawfish tail meat, unadulterated. No seasoning,
    > > just
    > > the
    > > sweet meat. Comes in 1 lb. cryovac'd packages. I nearly bought
    > > some
    > > last
    > > weekend but my freezer is rapidly running out of room.
    > >
    > > Jill
    > >
    > We'll probably be going to South Texas this winter. Would they be
    > available
    > there?
    >
    > MoM
    >
    >

    Yes!

    Look in the seafood section at HEB markets. :-)

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    I'll keep a copy of this so I won't forget.

    MoM

    Welcome! :-)
    Here in San Marcos, it's with the frozen fish over next to the fresh
    fish case, along with mixed bags of frozen stuff (one is a combo bag of
    shrimp, sliced squid and mussels) along with slabs of other frozen fish
    stuff.

    HEB also sells dry ice so you will be able to keep your purchase frozen
    while you travel!

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.


    That's good to know.

    MoM

  6. In article <1125362914.9d0b974753325c3329e5b7ab2bc18e40@teranews>,

    MoM said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <1125317209.27edb992f69ef090373c8c75786f3f2b@teranews>,

    MoM said:

    >> >>
    >> >> I can find frozen crawfish tail meat, unadulterated. No seasoning,
    >> >> just
    >> >> the
    >> >> sweet meat. Comes in 1 lb. cryovac'd packages. I nearly bought
    >> >> some
    >> >> last
    >> >> weekend but my freezer is rapidly running out of room.
    >> >>
    >> >> Jill
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> > <lol> I know _that_ feeling!
    >> > It bites when something really good is on sale,
    >> > and there is no space in the freezer.....
    >> > --
    >>
    >> My problem is... I never seem to be able to pass up a deal and I
    >> always
    >> find
    >> room some where! To my husbands chagrin.
    >>
    >> MoM
    >>
    >>
    >
    > I know what you mean...
    > But, I always end up having to clean out the big deep freezer every
    > couple of years, and end up cooking up half of it for dog or chicken
    > feed as it's too freezerburned to eat. :-(
    >
    > I'm going to buy a dry-erase board and hang it on the wall next to the
    > freezer! Someone here suggested that and I thought it was a fantastic
    > idea! I'm going to buy some of those plastic milk crates from wal-mart
    > and number them, then organize the freezer and list what is in each
    > basket and it's age on that board, then plan meals accordingly.
    >
    > I've finally started dating the bags I freeze stuff in, so this will
    > work. I've got to get organized and list stuff so I stop wasting food!
    > I'm fixin' to clean out the freezer again here shortly.....
    >
    I don't have that problem any longer. I use my Tilia and vacuum seal
    everything. My problem is I have 2 large
    uprights. I emptied one to sell the house but it has slowly built up
    again.
    Mostly roasts on sale but
    some stuff I will throw because it was leftover from a party and I dont'
    want to take it with us in a
    month and I definitely don't want to eat it! I've lost 73 lbs and I
    refuse
    to gain anything back!

    MoM

    Well done! :-)
    I've only lost 45 and have 75 to go...

    I bought a Tilia as well and DO use it for stuff now that I know I am
    going to store long term, but I've not had it for very long and there is
    a lot of old stuff in the freezer right now. We have a big chest freezer.

    I still think the meal planning/inventory board is going to be the way
    to go. :-)

    Cheers!


    I've got 27 to go. Then I can get free surgery!

    MoM

    What kind of surgery?
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. ~patches~ said:
    sf said:


    Catch! You can have mine.
    <sf tosses patches a whole lobster>

    Oh thank ye very mutches 🙂 Like basil you can never have too many
    whole lobsters. I'm thinking DH is an alien or mutant or something
    since he just doesn't get the lobster thing. I see I still have a
    little more fine tuning to do on him.

    <VBW>
    I bet if you ever let him get near a "real" lobster tail, he's scarff
    it up and thank you for allowing him to enjoy the experience.
    🙂

  8. ~patches~ said:
    sf said:
    ~patches~ said:

    DDIL now knows why those claws are banded and why
    the cat shouldn't play with their dinner 🙂

    Oh, man... she was a real ditz (and probably also emulating the
    kitchen scene from Annie Hall), but poor kitty... s/he didn't know!


    No, she isn't a ditz just wasn't thinking. She is really a sweetie.


    <w> ok - if you say so... I'm taking your word!!! There's nothing
    like the positive remarks of a MIL to know when it's the truth. My
    ex-DIL cooked like a (good) dream and wouldn't ever have played with
    lobsters... but she is history now - for well founded reasons, best
    left unsaid.

  9. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <1125362914.9d0b974753325c3329e5b7ab2bc18e40@teranews>,

    MoM said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <1125317209.27edb992f69ef090373c8c75786f3f2b@teranews>,
    "MoM" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > >> >>
    > >> >> I can find frozen crawfish tail meat, unadulterated. No
    > >> >> seasoning,
    > >> >> just
    > >> >> the
    > >> >> sweet meat. Comes in 1 lb. cryovac'd packages. I nearly bought
    > >> >> some
    > >> >> last
    > >> >> weekend but my freezer is rapidly running out of room.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Jill
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >
    > >> > <lol> I know _that_ feeling!
    > >> > It bites when something really good is on sale,
    > >> > and there is no space in the freezer.....
    > >> > --
    > >>
    > >> My problem is... I never seem to be able to pass up a deal and I
    > >> always
    > >> find
    > >> room some where! To my husbands chagrin.
    > >>
    > >> MoM
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > > I know what you mean...
    > > But, I always end up having to clean out the big deep freezer every
    > > couple of years, and end up cooking up half of it for dog or chicken
    > > feed as it's too freezerburned to eat. :-(
    > >
    > > I'm going to buy a dry-erase board and hang it on the wall next to
    > > the
    > > freezer! Someone here suggested that and I thought it was a
    > > fantastic
    > > idea! I'm going to buy some of those plastic milk crates from
    > > wal-mart
    > > and number them, then organize the freezer and list what is in each
    > > basket and it's age on that board, then plan meals accordingly.
    > >
    > > I've finally started dating the bags I freeze stuff in, so this will
    > > work. I've got to get organized and list stuff so I stop wasting
    > > food!
    > > I'm fixin' to clean out the freezer again here shortly.....
    > >
    > I don't have that problem any longer. I use my Tilia and vacuum seal
    > everything. My problem is I have 2 large
    > uprights. I emptied one to sell the house but it has slowly built up
    > again.
    > Mostly roasts on sale but
    > some stuff I will throw because it was leftover from a party and I
    > dont'
    > want to take it with us in a
    > month and I definitely don't want to eat it! I've lost 73 lbs and I
    > refuse
    > to gain anything back!
    >
    > MoM
    >
    >

    Well done! :-)
    I've only lost 45 and have 75 to go...

    I bought a Tilia as well and DO use it for stuff now that I know I am
    going to store long term, but I've not had it for very long and there
    is
    a lot of old stuff in the freezer right now. We have a big chest
    freezer.

    I still think the meal planning/inventory board is going to be the way
    to go. :-)

    Cheers!


    I've got 27 to go. Then I can get free surgery!

    MoM

    What kind of surgery?

    All that lose skin on my abdomen.

    MoM

  10. sf said:
    ~patches~ said:
    sf said:

    On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:56:16 -0400, ~patches~ wrote:

    > DDIL now knows why those claws are banded and why
    > the cat shouldn't play with their dinner 🙂

    Oh, man... she was a real ditz (and probably also emulating the
    kitchen scene from Annie Hall), but poor kitty... s/he didn't know!


    No, she isn't a ditz just wasn't thinking. She is really a sweetie.

    <w> ok - if you say so... I'm taking your word!!! There's nothing
    like the positive remarks of a MIL to know when it's the truth. My
    ex-DIL cooked like a (good) dream and wouldn't ever have played with
    lobsters... but she is history now - for well founded reasons, best
    left unsaid.

    Sorry to hear of your ex-DIL. It's always difficult when marriages
    break up.

    My DDIL is such a sweetie. She fits in so well with our family. She
    has a heart of gold and would do anything for us. Unfortunately she
    came from such a broken home and hellish family life her main goal was
    survival not learning how to cook. My kids were all taught how to cook
    from the time they could toddle in the kitchen so her and DS won't
    starve. He's quite proficient in the kitchen. She is learning how to
    cook from him. When they're home I encourage DDIL in the kitchen
    showing her various tips and tricks as well as simply how to do things.
    She is an eager student 🙂 She asked for a couple of family recipes
    so I came up with an idea to make both couples a scrapbook style
    cookbook of our family recipes complete with pictures and commentaries
    for Christmas this year.

    DSIL is also a real sweetie. We've been very blessed! He came from a
    family similar in value struture as ours. We get together with his
    parents to play cards and socialize. Unfortunately he didn't learn to
    cook because his mother didn't cook. She actually cooked her first
    turkey last Christmas with DD's and my help! His idea of a grilled
    cheese sandwich was two pieces of toast with one of those orange plastic
    cheese slices. DD has had great fun teaching him to cook. They watch
    the cooking shows together and cook together. She is very adventurous
    when it comes to food more on the gourmet side than I am. I get great
    pleasure watching them cook together 🙂

  11. In article <1125406446.eaa2347997e52ca854ed17ffdc00cc96@teranews>,

    MoM said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <1125362914.9d0b974753325c3329e5b7ab2bc18e40@teranews>,

    MoM said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > In article <1125317209.27edb992f69ef090373c8c75786f3f2b@teranews>,
    > "MoM" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> I can find frozen crawfish tail meat, unadulterated. No
    >> >> >> seasoning,
    >> >> >> just
    >> >> >> the
    >> >> >> sweet meat. Comes in 1 lb. cryovac'd packages. I nearly bought
    >> >> >> some
    >> >> >> last
    >> >> >> weekend but my freezer is rapidly running out of room.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> Jill
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >
    >> >> > <lol> I know _that_ feeling!
    >> >> > It bites when something really good is on sale,
    >> >> > and there is no space in the freezer.....
    >> >> > --
    >> >>
    >> >> My problem is... I never seem to be able to pass up a deal and I
    >> >> always
    >> >> find
    >> >> room some where! To my husbands chagrin.
    >> >>
    >> >> MoM
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> > I know what you mean...
    >> > But, I always end up having to clean out the big deep freezer every
    >> > couple of years, and end up cooking up half of it for dog or chicken
    >> > feed as it's too freezerburned to eat. :-(
    >> >
    >> > I'm going to buy a dry-erase board and hang it on the wall next to
    >> > the
    >> > freezer! Someone here suggested that and I thought it was a
    >> > fantastic
    >> > idea! I'm going to buy some of those plastic milk crates from
    >> > wal-mart
    >> > and number them, then organize the freezer and list what is in each
    >> > basket and it's age on that board, then plan meals accordingly.
    >> >
    >> > I've finally started dating the bags I freeze stuff in, so this will
    >> > work. I've got to get organized and list stuff so I stop wasting
    >> > food!
    >> > I'm fixin' to clean out the freezer again here shortly.....
    >> >
    >> I don't have that problem any longer. I use my Tilia and vacuum seal
    >> everything. My problem is I have 2 large
    >> uprights. I emptied one to sell the house but it has slowly built up
    >> again.
    >> Mostly roasts on sale but
    >> some stuff I will throw because it was leftover from a party and I
    >> dont'
    >> want to take it with us in a
    >> month and I definitely don't want to eat it! I've lost 73 lbs and I
    >> refuse
    >> to gain anything back!
    >>
    >> MoM
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Well done! :-)
    > I've only lost 45 and have 75 to go...
    >
    > I bought a Tilia as well and DO use it for stuff now that I know I am
    > going to store long term, but I've not had it for very long and there
    > is
    > a lot of old stuff in the freezer right now. We have a big chest
    > freezer.
    >
    > I still think the meal planning/inventory board is going to be the way
    > to go. :-)
    >
    > Cheers!
    I've got 27 to go. Then I can get free surgery!

    MoM

    What kind of surgery?

    All that lose skin on my abdomen.

    MoM

    Ah! Got it. :-)
    I may need that myself eventually but will have a co-pay.
    I've already talked to the plastic surgeon at work and he told me to
    wait 1 year to see how much the skin will shrink back by itself first.

    With the stretch marks I have, I'm sure I'll have to deal with at least
    some cutting. <shiver> not happy about it either, but oh well!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  12. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> month and I definitely don't want to eat it! I've lost 73 lbs and
    > >> I
    > >> refuse
    > >> to gain anything back!
    > >>
    > >> MoM
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > > Well done! :-)
    > > I've only lost 45 and have 75 to go...
    > >
    > > I bought a Tilia as well and DO use it for stuff now that I know I
    > > am
    > > going to store long term, but I've not had it for very long and
    > > there
    > > is
    > > a lot of old stuff in the freezer right now. We have a big chest
    > > freezer.
    > >
    > > I still think the meal planning/inventory board is going to be the
    > > way
    > > to go. :-)
    > >
    > > Cheers!
    > I've got 27 to go. Then I can get free surgery!
    >
    > MoM
    >
    >

    What kind of surgery?

    All that lose skin on my abdomen.

    MoM

    Ah! Got it. :-)
    I may need that myself eventually but will have a co-pay.
    I've already talked to the plastic surgeon at work and he told me to
    wait 1 year to see how much the skin will shrink back by itself first.

    With the stretch marks I have, I'm sure I'll have to deal with at least
    some cutting. <shiver> not happy about it either, but oh well!

    Surgery doesn't bother me too much, but then, I was an OR Tech. I know what
    goes on and I'm hoping
    when I have mine I can have an epidural and avoid the general anaesthetic.

    MoM

  13. In article <1125420575.4a34d75f3a01771413032fd94cfa0016@teranews>,

    MoM said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >> month and I definitely don't want to eat it! I've lost 73 lbs and
    >> >> I
    >> >> refuse
    >> >> to gain anything back!
    >> >>
    >> >> MoM
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> > Well done! :-)
    >> > I've only lost 45 and have 75 to go...
    >> >
    >> > I bought a Tilia as well and DO use it for stuff now that I know I
    >> > am
    >> > going to store long term, but I've not had it for very long and
    >> > there
    >> > is
    >> > a lot of old stuff in the freezer right now. We have a big chest
    >> > freezer.
    >> >
    >> > I still think the meal planning/inventory board is going to be the
    >> > way
    >> > to go. :-)
    >> >
    >> > Cheers!
    >> I've got 27 to go. Then I can get free surgery!
    >>
    >> MoM
    >>
    >>
    >
    > What kind of surgery?

    All that lose skin on my abdomen.

    MoM

    Ah! Got it. :-)
    I may need that myself eventually but will have a co-pay.
    I've already talked to the plastic surgeon at work and he told me to
    wait 1 year to see how much the skin will shrink back by itself first.

    With the stretch marks I have, I'm sure I'll have to deal with at least
    some cutting. <shiver> not happy about it either, but oh well!

    Surgery doesn't bother me too much, but then, I was an OR Tech. I know what
    goes on and I'm hoping
    when I have mine I can have an epidural and avoid the general anaesthetic.

    MoM

    You and me both!
    I'm not an OR tech or a nurse, but I do work in health care. :-)

    Even Epidurals carry a risk, but they seem to be less hard on you than
    general anesthesia.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  14. It sounds like everything is right in your part of the world. Right
    now, I'm hoping you and yours aren't anywhere near New Orleans.

    ```````````````

    ~patches~ said:
    sf said:
    ~patches~ said:

    sf wrote:

    > On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:56:16 -0400, ~patches~ wrote:
    >
    >> DDIL now knows why those claws are banded and why
    >> the cat shouldn't play with their dinner 🙂
    >
    > Oh, man... she was a real ditz (and probably also emulating the
    > kitchen scene from Annie Hall), but poor kitty... s/he didn't know!
    >
    No, she isn't a ditz just wasn't thinking. She is really a sweetie.

    <w> ok - if you say so... I'm taking your word!!! There's nothing
    like the positive remarks of a MIL to know when it's the truth. My
    ex-DIL cooked like a (good) dream and wouldn't ever have played with
    lobsters... but she is history now - for well founded reasons, best
    left unsaid.

    Sorry to hear of your ex-DIL. It's always difficult when marriages
    break up.

    My DDIL is such a sweetie. She fits in so well with our family. She
    has a heart of gold and would do anything for us. Unfortunately she
    came from such a broken home and hellish family life her main goal was
    survival not learning how to cook. My kids were all taught how to cook
    from the time they could toddle in the kitchen so her and DS won't
    starve. He's quite proficient in the kitchen. She is learning how to
    cook from him. When they're home I encourage DDIL in the kitchen
    showing her various tips and tricks as well as simply how to do things.
    She is an eager student 🙂 She asked for a couple of family recipes
    so I came up with an idea to make both couples a scrapbook style
    cookbook of our family recipes complete with pictures and commentaries
    for Christmas this year.

    DSIL is also a real sweetie. We've been very blessed! He came from a
    family similar in value struture as ours. We get together with his
    parents to play cards and socialize. Unfortunately he didn't learn to
    cook because his mother didn't cook. She actually cooked her first
    turkey last Christmas with DD's and my help! His idea of a grilled
    cheese sandwich was two pieces of toast with one of those orange plastic
    cheese slices. DD has had great fun teaching him to cook. They watch
    the cooking shows together and cook together. She is very adventurous
    when it comes to food more on the gourmet side than I am. I get great
    pleasure watching them cook together 🙂

  15. sf said:

    It sounds like everything is right in your part of the world. Right
    now, I'm hoping you and yours aren't anywhere near New Orleans.

    Thank goodness we are nowhere near New Orleans! My heart goes out to
    the whole city. I've been watching CNN for coverage of the damage. It
    is unbelievable.

    <snip>

  16. ~patches~ said:
    sf said:

    It sounds like everything is right in your part of the world. Right

    Quoted message said:

    now, I'm hoping you and yours aren't anywhere near New Orleans.

    Thank goodness we are nowhere near New Orleans! My heart goes out to
    the whole city. I've been watching CNN for coverage of the damage.
    It
    is unbelievable.

    <snip>

    Not 3 weeks ago i was whining here in RFC about not living in New
    Orleans, rather than this dull, old, routinely boring San Francisco bay
    area.

    In 1989 we had a sever earth quake here but the roads were not made
    impassable, electricity was restored along with phones and water very
    quickly, no looting and there was an instinctual tendency for people,
    strangers to help rather than threaten or hinder others. But even the
    1906 earth quake was not as shattering to as many peoples lives as New
    Orleans is now, there were safe havens, high ground, resources available
    immediately to help the survivors and the area was rebuilt quickly.
    Radio and television were abel to give people pertinent instructions for
    their survival.

    If i had my way i would evict everybody from california and turn it into
    a national park, it seems foolish to me to think of rebuilding New
    Orleans, even as a tourist attraction. Let it go back to nature and
    move civilian populations out, if private industry wants to pay to
    maintain a presence there let them pay for it. I wonder if the above
    seems terribly cynical but on the other hand it seems like just asking
    for the same kind of problems in the future if New Orleans goes back to
    the way it was.
    ---
    JL

  17. Joseph Littleshoes said:


    ... it seems foolish to me to think of rebuilding New
    Orleans, even as a tourist attraction. Let it go back to nature and
    move civilian populations out, if private industry wants to pay to
    maintain a presence there let them pay for it. I wonder if the above
    seems terribly cynical but on the other hand it seems like just asking
    for the same kind of problems in the future if New Orleans goes back to
    the way it was.

    Let's consider that New Orleans is 18 feet below sea level. It was
    dry because of the levy (dike) system and Mother Nature has reclaimed
    her land.

  18. On Thu 01 Sep 2005 03:20:13p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    If i had my way i would evict everybody from california and turn it into
    a national park, it seems foolish to me to think of rebuilding New
    Orleans, even as a tourist attraction. Let it go back to nature and
    move civilian populations out, if private industry wants to pay to
    maintain a presence there let them pay for it. I wonder if the above
    seems terribly cynical but on the other hand it seems like just asking
    for the same kind of problems in the future if New Orleans goes back to
    the way it was.

    Exactly how many times has this happened to New Orleans since it was
    founded in 1718? I think you and a lot of other people are overreacting.

    There are fault lines throughout the continental US, but I hardly think
    eradicating populations from areas surrounding all of them is a practical
    solution.

    There's always a risk that something catastrophic may happen in any number
    of places, but the reality is that it rarely does happen.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
    unless there are three other people.

  19. Wayne Boatwright wrote on 02 Sep 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 01 Sep 2005 03:20:13p, Joseph Littleshoes wrote in
    rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    If i had my way i would evict everybody from california and turn
    it into a national park, it seems foolish to me to think of
    rebuilding New Orleans, even as a tourist attraction. Let it go
    back to nature and move civilian populations out, if private
    industry wants to pay to maintain a presence there let them pay
    for it. I wonder if the above seems terribly cynical but on the
    other hand it seems like just asking for the same kind of problems
    in the future if New Orleans goes back to the way it was.

    Exactly how many times has this happened to New Orleans since it was
    founded in 1718? I think you and a lot of other people are
    overreacting.

    There are fault lines throughout the continental US, but I hardly
    think eradicating populations from areas surrounding all of them is
    a practical solution.

    There's always a risk that something catastrophic may happen in any
    number of places, but the reality is that it rarely does happen.

    Well it's not my tax dollars, but if it was... I wouldn't condone re-
    building in a place that was below sea-level and near a coast or in flood
    plains. Seems silly to me to pay more than once to re-build or repair
    after flood damage with taxpayer's money.

    --
    The eyes are the mirrors....
    But the ears...Ah the ears.
    The ears keep the hat up.

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