Living with gallstones

(s) said:

I have been diagnosed as having gallstones. I have had
three painful episodes in last one year, and about two
short episodes per year in the past two years.

That's about seven too many for me. You must be a glutton
for punishment.

Quoted message said:

I was advised to undergo surgery but I fear losing
an organ.

Why? Have you formed some kind of personal attachment to
your gallbladder?

Quoted message said:

I am of good health

Except, apparently, for symptomatic gallstones...

Quoted message said:

I know I run the risk of getting a gallstone stuck in the
biliary duct and ending up having painful invasive
surgery.

You forgot "and maybe infection and death." Of course,
laparoscopic cholecystectomy carries this theoretical
risk as well, but few things in life are risk-free, even
doing nothing.

Quoted message said:

Other than this, what other complications or diseases can
gallstones cause in my body?

You caught that "death" part, right? How about countless
episodes of misery, pain, doctors visits, fear of eating,
lost time with family and friends, lost time from work,
etc.? Doesn't sound like much fun to me.

Quoted message said:

I would not be so scared of my own health, mortality etc.,
if I had no children. I have two very small children.

Sounds more like a reason to *have* the surgery than a
reason to *not* have the surgery, if you ask me.

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On 2004-06-28 23:24:00 -0400, [email hidden]

(s) said:

I have been diagnosed as having gallstones. I have had
three painful episodes in last one year, and about two
short episodes per year in the past two years.

That's about seven too many for me. You must be a glutton
for punishment.

Quoted message said:

I was advised to undergo surgery but I fear losing an
organ.

Why? Have you formed some kind of personal attachment to
your gallbladder?

Quoted message said:

I am of good health

Except, apparently, for symptomatic gallstones...

Quoted message said:

I know I run the risk of getting a gallstone stuck in
the biliary duct and ending up having painful invasive
surgery.

You forgot "and maybe infection and death." Of course,
laparoscopic cholecystectomy carries this theoretical risk
as well, but few things in life are risk-free, even doing
nothing.

Quoted message said:

Other than this, what other complications or diseases
can gallstones cause in my body?

You caught that "death" part, right? How about countless
episodes of misery, pain, doctors visits, fear of eating,
lost time with family and friends, lost time from work,
etc.? Doesn't sound like much fun to me.

Quoted message said:

I would not be so scared of my own health, mortality
etc., if I had no children. I have two very small
children.

Sounds more like a reason to *have* the surgery than a
reason to *not* have the surgery, if you ask me.

Yes, the risk of *not* having surgery for symptomatic
gallstones is higher than the risk of laparoscopic
cholecystectomy.

HMc

"Griffin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On 2004-06-28 23:24:00 -0400, [email hidden]

(s) said:

I have been diagnosed as having gallstones. I have had
three painful episodes in last one year, and about two
short episodes per year in the past two years.

That's about seven too many for me. You must be a glutton
for punishment.

Quoted message said:

I was advised to undergo surgery but I fear losing an
organ.

Why? Have you formed some kind of personal attachment to
your gallbladder?

Indeed, it is part of the sacred whole God crafted her as.

MUST she live life without a gallbladder apparatus?

She might wish to wait until medicine can do more for her
condition than yank the whole gallbladder out and throw it
in the trash can (to be picked up by a biotech company to
make all sorts of expensive goodies).

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On 2004-06-28 23:24:00 -0400, [email hidden]

(s) said:

I have been diagnosed as having gallstones. I have had
three painful episodes in last one year, and about two
short episodes per year in the past two years.

That's about seven too many for me. You must be a
glutton for

punishment.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I was advised to undergo surgery but I fear losing an
organ.

Why? Have you formed some kind of personal attachment
to your

gallbladder?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am of good health

Except, apparently, for symptomatic gallstones...

Quoted message said:

I know I run the risk of getting a gallstone stuck in
the biliary duct and ending up having painful invasive
surgery.

You forgot "and maybe infection and death." Of course,
laparoscopic cholecystectomy carries this theoretical
risk as well, but few things in life are risk-free, even
doing nothing.

Quoted message said:

Other than this, what other complications or diseases
can gallstones cause in my body?

You caught that "death" part, right? How about countless
episodes of misery, pain, doctors visits, fear of
eating, lost time with family and friends, lost time
from work, etc.? Doesn't sound like much fun to me.

Quoted message said:

I would not be so scared of my own health, mortality
etc., if I had no children. I have two very small
children.

Sounds more like a reason to *have* the surgery than a
reason to *not* have the surgery, if you ask me.

Yes, the risk of *not* having surgery for symptomatic
gallstones is higher than the risk of laparoscopic
cholecystectomy.

HMc

Hi folks,

Thanks for opening my eyes. The reason I keep postponing the
laproscopic surgery is because I fear the stones may begin
to form in the liver or someplace else in the gut once the
gallbladder is out, won't the consequences be far more
dangerous then? Since my passing of gallstones happens only
when I am starved and eat a high fat meal and eat too fast
and I am highly stressed. I have a painful episode only when
all of the above happen simultaneously, so if I simply
control my diet and stress, can I simply go on living like
people with asymptomatic gallstones? I am so confused, but I
guess I should not wait until more damage is done. Does
anybody know of any non-surgical methods to dissolve or
expell gallstones? I do not completely believe in cleansing
flushes (by Hulda Clark etc). Thanks for the information.
God bless!

Sapn

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have been diagnosed as having gallstones. I have had
three painful episodes in last one year, and about two
short episodes per year in the past two years.

That's about seven too many for me. You must be a
glutton for punishment.

Quoted message said:

I was advised to undergo surgery but I fear losing an
organ.

Why? Have you formed some kind of personal attachment to
your gallbladder?

Quoted message said:

I am of good health

Except, apparently, for symptomatic gallstones...

Quoted message said:

I know I run the risk of getting a gallstone stuck in
the biliary duct and ending up having painful invasive
surgery.

You forgot "and maybe infection and death." Of course,
laparoscopic cholecystectomy carries this theoretical
risk as well, but few things in life are risk-free, even
doing nothing.

Quoted message said:

Other than this, what other complications or diseases
can gallstones cause in my body?

You caught that "death" part, right? How about countless
episodes of misery, pain, doctors visits, fear of
eating, lost time with family and friends, lost time
from work, etc.? Doesn't sound like much fun to me.

Quoted message said:

I would not be so scared of my own health, mortality
etc., if I had no children. I have two very small
children.

Sounds more like a reason to *have* the surgery than a
reason to *not* have the surgery, if you ask me.

Yes, the risk of *not* having surgery for symptomatic
gallstones is higher than the risk of laparoscopic
cholecystectomy.

HMc

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On 2004-06-28 23:24:00 -0400, [email hidden]

(s) said:

I have been diagnosed as having gallstones. I have had
three painful episodes in last one year, and about two
short episodes per year in the past two years.

That's about seven too many for me. You must be a
glutton for

punishment.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I was advised to undergo surgery but I fear losing an
organ.

Why? Have you formed some kind of personal attachment
to your

gallbladder?

Quoted message said:

Indeed, it is part of the sacred whole God crafted her as.

MUST she live life without a gallbladder apparatus?

Yes, she will eventually have to have the gallbladder
removed. She gets to choose to have that done either
electively, urgently, or emergently.

HMc

(s) said:

I fear the stones may begin to form in the liver or
someplace else in the gut once the gallbladder is out

No, they won't.

Quoted message said:

if I simply control my diet and stress, can I simply go on
living like people with asymptomatic gallstones?

If only it were that easy to control diet and stress...

Quoted message said:

Does anybody know of any non-surgical methods to dissolve
or expell gallstones?

None that actually do anything.