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Charlie C. · 2003-07-08T18:08:46+00:00

In his commentary today he said something to the extent of: "This country has a little of everything... apart from great cyclists..." Is that a slam or what?

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Charlie C.
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8 July 2003, 18:08 UTC #1

In his commentary today he said something to the extent of:
"This country has a little of everything... apart from great cyclists..."
Is that a slam or what?

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Jonathan V.D. S
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8 July 2003, 19:00 UTC #2

Charlie C. <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
In his commentary today he said something to the extent of:
"This country has a little of everything... apart from great cyclists..."
Is that a slam or what?
Who's that black-haired farmer on the stage every day then?

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Warren
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8 July 2003, 23:00 UTC #3

In article <[email hidden]>, Charlie C.
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In his commentary today he said something to the extent of:
"This country has a little of everything... apart from great cyclists..."
Is that a slam or what?
"apart from" is like saying "in addition to".
-WG fluent in British coloquialisms

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Tom Schulenburg
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8 July 2003, 23:30 UTC #4

"warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>, Charlie C.
Quoted message said:
In his commentary today he said something to the extent of:
"This country has a little of everything... apart from great

cyclists..."
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:

Is that a slam or what?
"apart from" is like saying "in addition to".
-WG fluent in British coloquialisms
I think your wrong here. "apart from" is the opposite of "in addition to". From Merriam
Webster Online
webster.comthesaurus
Entry Word: apart from Function: preposition Text: Synonyms EXCEPT, aside from, bar, barring,
besides, but, exclusive of, outside of, save, saving
-T

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Tim McTeague
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9 July 2003, 01:01 UTC #5

I'm sure Phil had "in addition to" in mind when he said "apart from". Remember this is the guy who
keeps saying "speciality". That one drives me crazy as I was taught it was not a real word and as
specialty means the same thing but sound less pretentious. I know its in the dictionary, but now
"bling, bling" is in the OED, I give up.
Tim McTeague
"Tom Schulenburg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>, Charlie C. <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
In his commentary today he said something to the extent of:
"This country has a little of everything... apart from great

cyclists..."
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:

Is that a slam or what?
"apart from" is like saying "in addition to".
-WG fluent in British coloquialisms
I think your wrong here. "apart from" is the opposite of "in addition to". From Merriam
Webster Online
webster.comthesaurus
Entry Word: apart from Function: preposition Text: Synonyms EXCEPT, aside from, bar, barring,
besides, but, exclusive

of,
Quoted message said:
outside of, save, saving
-T

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Warren
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9 July 2003, 02:31 UTC #6

In article <[email hidden]>, Tom Schulenburg
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"warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>, Charlie C. <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
In his commentary today he said something to the extent of:
"This country has a little of everything... apart from great

cyclists..."
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:

Is that a slam or what?
"apart from" is like saying "in addition to".
-WG fluent in British coloquialisms
I think your wrong here. "apart from" is the opposite of "in addition to". From Merriam
Webster Online
webster.comthesaurus
Wat does that have to do with Phil? Or any Brit?
-WG

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Carl Sundquist
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9 July 2003, 03:01 UTC #7

"Tim McTeague" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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I'm sure Phil had "in addition to" in mind when he said "apart from". Remember this is the guy who
keeps saying "speciality". That one drives

me
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crazy as I was taught it was not a real word and as specialty means the

same
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thing but sound less pretentious. I know its in the dictionary, but now "bling, bling" is in the
OED, I give up.
Tim McTeague
How do you feel about aluminium (Al`u*min"i*um)?
P.S. Wallace and Gromit say 'speciality'.

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Stewart Fleming
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9 July 2003, 03:31 UTC #8

If he had said "This country has a little of everything, QUITE apart from great cyclists" the
meaning might have been clearer. Regardless (or irregardless if you prefer) I understood that he
meant that France has a little of everything and it also has great cylists.

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Nick Burns
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9 July 2003, 04:01 UTC #9

"Stewart Fleming" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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If he had said "This country has a little of everything, QUITE apart from great cyclists" the
meaning might have been clearer. Regardless (or irregardless if you prefer) I understood that he
meant that France has a little of everything and it also has great cylists.
HAD.

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Tom Kunich
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9 July 2003, 04:31 UTC #10

"Jonathan v.d. Sluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Charlie C. <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws
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In his commentary today he said something to the extent of:
"This country has a little of everything... apart from great

cyclists..."
Quoted message said:
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Is that a slam or what?
Who's that black-haired farmer on the stage every day then?
A PAST great cyclist. Berhard was the last great one and there have only been a very few good one's
since him.

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Thach H Nguyen
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9 July 2003, 04:31 UTC #11

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A PAST great cyclist. Berhard was the last great one and there have only been a very few good
one's since him.
I beg to differ. I'd rate Greg, Miguel, Lance on the same level. Miguel is possibly even *greater*.

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Nick Burns
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9 July 2003, 05:33 UTC #12

Hello?
Those you named are not great FRENCH champions. Read the thread so that you understand the context.
"Thach H Nguyen" <e5oteric@yahoo!.com> wrote in message
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"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A PAST great cyclist. Berhard was the last great one and there have only been a very few good
one's since him.
I beg to differ. I'd rate Greg, Miguel, Lance on the same level. Miguel is possibly even
*greater*.

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Nev Shea
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9 July 2003, 05:33 UTC #13

"Thach H Nguyen" <e5oteric@yahoo!.com> wrote in
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"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A PAST great cyclist. Berhard was the last great one and there have only been a very few good
one's since him.
I beg to differ. I'd rate Greg, Miguel, Lance on the same level. Miguel is possibly even
*greater*.
Well, your rating is subject to bias. This is better:
cyclinghalloffame.comalltime25graph.asp
NS

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Thach H Nguyen
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9 July 2003, 05:33 UTC #14

"Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Hello?
Those you named are not great FRENCH champions. Read the thread so that

you
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understand the context.
Er, sorry, got it... now I'll go digging a hole.

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Julio Steen
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9 July 2003, 06:30 UTC #15

Tom Schulenburg said:
I think your wrong here.
Well, first off, Tom, the word you meant to use there is "you're", not "your", so your credibility
is basically down the old [censored] right off the bat, typo or not.
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"apart from" is the opposite of "in addition to". From Merriam Webster Online
Second off, the previous poster claimed fluency with "British coloquialisms" (okay, so he can't
type either), but then you go cite an *American* thesaurus without the blink of an eye. Not only
that, but I've often heard "apart from" used (incorrectly, but colloquially) right here in the US
with precisely the meaning that the original poster attributed to Phil. Backwards, yes, but
common enough.
On the other hand, I liked the Phil quote better when read as a backhand comment on the current
state of French cycling. Yet somehow I don't see Phil being mean-spirited enough to mean it that
way, which is why I suspect the colloquial interpretation is more accurate.

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Mark & Steven B
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9 July 2003, 16:00 UTC #16

Carl Sundquist said:
"Tim McTeague" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm sure Phil had "in addition to" in mind when he said "apart from". Remember this is the guy
who keeps saying "speciality". That one drives

me
Quoted message said:
crazy as I was taught it was not a real word and as specialty means the

same
Quoted message said:
thing but sound less pretentious. I know its in the dictionary, but now "bling, bling" is in the
OED, I give up.
Tim McTeague
How do you feel about aluminium (Al`u*min"i*um)?
P.S. Wallace and Gromit say 'speciality'.
Someone had to say it. Do the Brits actually spell it that way, or do they just pronounce it
like that? How about the pronunciation of names like Worcestershire, or Wilcockson?
Steve (was a chem major)
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 dentaltwins.comdentaltwins.com

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Nick Burns
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9 July 2003, 16:00 UTC #17

"Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message:
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P.S. Wallace and Gromit say 'speciality'.
Someone had to say it. Do the Brits actually spell it that way, or do they just pronounce it
like that? How about the pronunciation of names

like
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Worcestershire, or Wilcockson?
Steve (was a chem major)
Wer.she (short "e"😉.stir I don't have the other answers but I think Wilsockson is pronounced as
Americans would and the "specialty" is spelled the same. There has to be a Brit nearby that can
spell better than I can.
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Bob Martin
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9 July 2003, 21:30 UTC #18

Nick Burns said:
Wer.she (short "e"😉.stir
wrong. Worcester is pronounced Wooster (oo as in foot)
Bob Martin

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Steve McGinty
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9 July 2003, 21:30 UTC #19

Nick Burns said:

"Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message:
<snip>
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Quoted message said:
P.S. Wallace and Gromit say 'speciality'.
Someone had to say it. Do the Brits actually spell it that way, or do they just pronounce it
like that? How about the pronunciation of names

like
Quoted message said:
Worcestershire, or Wilcockson?
Steve (was a chem major)
Wer.she (short "e"😉.stir

Woostershire (Sauce)
Regards! Stephen

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Andrew McDonald
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9 July 2003, 22:00 UTC #20

Tom:
As a person raised in the colonies and being educated in British English I suggest you refer to to a
dictionary or thesaurus of British source.
"Tom Schulenburg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>, Charlie C. <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
In his commentary today he said something to the extent of:
"This country has a little of everything... apart from great

cyclists..."
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:

Is that a slam or what?
"apart from" is like saying "in addition to".
-WG fluent in British coloquialisms
I think your wrong here. "apart from" is the opposite of "in addition to". From Merriam
Webster Online
webster.comthesaurus
Entry Word: apart from Function: preposition Text: Synonyms EXCEPT, aside from, bar, barring,
besides, but, exclusive of, outside of, save, saving
-T

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