Lidl stuff

Tony Raven said:

Roos Eisma wrote on 20/03/2007 06:52 +0100:

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Pinky said:

What I can't understand is why, for an German originating
supermarket, they sell the most revolting black pudding (Blutwurst)
I have ever found anywhere in Europe --and they sell it all over
Europe as well!

Because it is a German originating sausage? "Blutwurst" literally
means "blood sausage". I suppose every country has worked out a way
to handle leftovers from slaughtering an animal and some of these
were more successfull than others....

As a friend of mine commented on German cuisine while we were having
starters in a German restaurant, "The wurst is yet to come"

As a fully paid up Englishman (??) you would be disqualified from commenting
on any kind of cuisine :-)

--

Geoff

GeoffC wrote on 20/03/2007 18:52 +0100:

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Tony Raven said:

As a friend of mine commented on German cuisine while we were having
starters in a German restaurant, "The wurst is yet to come"

As a fully paid up Englishman (??) you would be disqualified from commenting
on any kind of cuisine :-)

Who said my friend was English ;-)

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Tony

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TerryJ said:

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Quoted message said:

> Has anyone any experience of this sort of thing? <http://
>www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20070326.p.Bicycle_Rack.ar7>

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> I'm rather short of space indoors and wonder about fitting one above
> my stairs.

I may be a good way to get it up to a height you can't reach, but I
find one large hook under a garage beam is enough to just rest the
saddle on.

That would be a great idea... if I had a garage. After all, does anyone
actually store cars in garages?

Cheers,
Luke

--
Lincoln City 0-2 Southend United (AET)
Swansea City 2-2 Southend United
We went up twice with Tilly and Brush

Pinky said:

"Roos Eisma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

<snip><snip>

Quoted message said:

Because it is a German originating sausage? "Blutwurst" literally means
"blood sausage". I suppose every country has worked out a way to handle
leftovers from slaughtering an animal and some of these were more
successfull than others....

Roos

Ich weiß sehr gut, was "Blütwürst" bedeutet. Ich habe es sogar gemacht, wenn
ich auf einem deutschen Bauernhof lebt!

<div style="Lehrer">Es heißt nicht Blütwurst, sondern Blutwurst.</div>

Cheers,
Luke

--
Lincoln City 0-2 Southend United (AET)
Swansea City 2-2 Southend United
We went up twice with Tilly and Brush

Tony Raven said:

GeoffC wrote on 20/03/2007 18:52 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Tony Raven said:

As a friend of mine commented on German cuisine while we were having
starters in a German restaurant, "The wurst is yet to come"

As a fully paid up Englishman (??) you would be disqualified from
commenting on any kind of cuisine :-)

Who said my friend was English ;-)

Nobody :-)

--

Geoff

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Your friendly LBS can order them from zyro.

http://www.zyro.co.uk/product_list.asp?cat1=bag&cat2=spares

You will need parts AL5301 AL5302, AL5303, AL5304, Al5306 for each
pannier.

Zyro (in the experience of my LBS and myself) have the organisation
and order fulfillment ability of a slightly demented meercat selling
car tyres.
Expect the order to take a long time and to be incorrect when it
arrives. Anything less than this is a bonus.

I've had good luck with my Lidl panniers so far but I'll bookmark the info
for when they do fail. Thanks.

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Tony Raven said the following on 20/03/2007 16:41:

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In today's job market where we are having to import workers to keep up
with demand

Ironic, isn't it? Employment is supposed to have hit a high again, yet
we're having to import workers who are willing to actually work. People
complain about the Poles nicking all the jobs, but the Poles work, and
the people complaining are often those sat on their arses at home!

When I were a lad, I hired myself out as a pair of hands until I got a
proper job. Did all sorts of crappy paid-by-the-day jobs :-)

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

In news:[email hidden],
Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:

Quoted message said:

Ironic, isn't it? Employment is supposed to have hit a high again,
yet we're having to import workers who are willing to actually work.
People complain about the Poles nicking all the jobs, but the Poles
work, and the people complaining are often those sat on their arses
at home!
When I were a lad, I hired myself out as a pair of hands until I got a
proper job. Did all sorts of crappy paid-by-the-day jobs :-)

YA Norman Tebbit AICMFP :-)

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Never trust a man with more than one moustache.

Danny Colyer said:

Dunno if there's an Aldi newsletter, but I can usually rely on someone
giving notice here of cycling stuff coming in :-)

There certainly is:

http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk_newsletter/index.html

Dave Larrington said the following on 21/03/2007 08:38:

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YA Norman Tebbit AICMFP :-)

Will 1/- do?? :-)

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http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Dave Larrington wrote on 21/03/2007 08:38 +0100:

Quoted message said:

In news:[email hidden],
Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:

Quoted message said:

Ironic, isn't it? Employment is supposed to have hit a high again,
yet we're having to import workers who are willing to actually work.
People complain about the Poles nicking all the jobs, but the Poles
work, and the people complaining are often those sat on their arses
at home!
When I were a lad, I hired myself out as a pair of hands until I got a
proper job. Did all sorts of crappy paid-by-the-day jobs :-)

YA Norman Tebbit AICMFP :-)

Which brings it neatly round to being on topic again.

--
Tony

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wildly inaccurate..."
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On 20 Mar, 20:26, [email hidden] (Ekul

Namsob) said:

That would be a great idea... if I had a garage. After all, does anyone
actually store cars in garages?

No. Where would all the bikes live?

TL

To suggest the job market is in good nick because we are supposedly having
to encourage immigrants to come and fill vacancies is rubbish! The "jobs"
are so poorly paid and the conditions so bad that immigrants are the only
people that will take them. The "employers" are so cynical now that they
know they can offer peanuts and get staff because of the so called free
movement within the EU.

Have to say though that I'm surprisingly impressed at the level of debate
within you cycling types!

Trevor

Trevor Kenworthy said:

To suggest the job market is in good nick because we are supposedly having
to encourage immigrants to come and fill vacancies is rubbish! The "jobs"
are so poorly paid and the conditions so bad that immigrants are the only
people that will take them. The "employers" are so cynical now that they
know they can offer peanuts and get staff because of the so called free
movement within the EU.

Have to say though that I'm surprisingly impressed at the level of debate
within you cycling types!

I hate it when you can't tell if someone's being sarcastic.

On 21/03/2007 18:28, Trevor Kenworthy said,

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To suggest the job market is in good nick because we are supposedly having
to encourage immigrants to come and fill vacancies is rubbish! The "jobs"
are so poorly paid and the conditions so bad that immigrants are the only
people that will take them.

Recently we were trying to get assembly operators. The going rate is
around £7.50 - £8.00 an hour. The vacancies were open to anyone, and
whilst we don't have saunas, lunchtime shiatsu sessions and free
lunches, the conditions are perfectly acceptable. We do have free
tea/coffee. I don't think anyone is encouraging Eastern Europeans to
come here - they are simply taking advantage of the fact that there is
work here that UK residents can't be bothered to take because they're
scared they'll lose some benefits. This is mainly, I think, the fault
of the benefits system that seems to discourage some people to work.

Quoted message said:

The "employers" are so cynical now that they
know they can offer peanuts and get staff because of the so called free
movement within the EU.

That is offensive to many employers. Like many, we offer the going rate
for the job, not the person, regardless of whether the applicant is
British, Polish, Abkhazi or Martian, Muslim, Christian, 2nd Branch
Davidians or atheist.

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Have to say though that I'm surprisingly impressed at the level of debate
within you cycling types!

Sometimes I think this group is an offshoot of alt.politics :-)

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

There is no sarcasm intended at all. I did find it very refreshing to read
the replies after the experience of some other newsgroups and forums.

Paul, there will always be exceptions and I recognise this. But when you see
and hear about the flourishing work gangs in areas such as East Anglia then
there is another side to this.

Trevor

Paul Boyd said:

Recently we were trying to get assembly operators. The going rate is
around £7.50 - £8.00 an hour. The vacancies were open to anyone, and
whilst we don't have saunas, lunchtime shiatsu sessions and free
lunches, the conditions are perfectly acceptable. We do have free
tea/coffee. I don't think anyone is encouraging Eastern Europeans to
come here - they are simply taking advantage of the fact that there is
work here that UK residents can't be bothered to take because they're
scared they'll lose some benefits. This is mainly, I think, the fault
of the benefits system that seems to discourage some people to work.

With the benefits system, I often wondered if we really need a minimum
wage. Surely, the minimum wage is always set at the level of benefits
that an individual could get for doing nothing, plus a bit for his time.

Quoted message said:

Sometimes I think this group is an offshoot of alt.politics :-)

A bike ride is an ideal time to think.

Al C-F said:

Paul Boyd said:

Recently we were trying to get assembly operators. The going rate is
around £7.50 - £8.00 an hour. The vacancies were open to anyone, and
whilst we don't have saunas, lunchtime shiatsu sessions and free
lunches, the conditions are perfectly acceptable. We do have free
tea/coffee. I don't think anyone is encouraging Eastern Europeans to
come here - they are simply taking advantage of the fact that there is
work here that UK residents can't be bothered to take because they're
scared they'll lose some benefits. This is mainly, I think, the fault
of the benefits system that seems to discourage some people to work.

With the benefits system, I often wondered if we really need a minimum
wage. Surely, the minimum wage is always set at the level of benefits

Not if the person in question has children.

If in rented accomodation the difference between the sum of all benefits and the
wages that could be earned favours the benefit claimant.

I'm not sure what happens if a person in that situation does work - obviously
they can still claim the difference between what they earn and the benefits, but
it means they are effectively going out to work for no reward other than self
respect.

Of course, that is reward enough for a lot of people.

Ziggy said the following on 23/03/2007 12:15:

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Not if the person in question has children.

Or, as in a local case, 15 children. At any rate, they claimed for 15
children, although despite the council's scrupulous checks, they
actually only had two. http://tinyurl.com/36qqmh links to the Weston
and Worle News website.

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I'm not sure what happens if a person in that situation does work - obviously
they can still claim the difference between what they earn and the benefits, but
it means they are effectively going out to work for no reward other than self
respect.

When I first left full-time education with a nice shiny BTEC HND, I
worked for about 6 months as a general labourer. I was also signed on
to the dole, and I declared the days I was working and the amount I
earned. The dole [1] was adjusted accordingly, often to zero in any one
week. It appears now that it isn't possible to do that - you are either
employed or on the dole, but you can't remain signed on even if you're
working short term. Therefore people don't bother getting short term
work because of the hassle in signing on and off. That can't be an
improvement, can it?

One reason I did that at the time was because when I wasn't working I
has hassling the agencies for either day by day work or preferably a
full-time job to suit my qualifications. It meant my name was known by
the agencies, so when something suitable came up, I was at the top of
the list.

[1] For the pedants, I'm using the term very loosely :-)

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

When I first left full-time education with a nice shiny BTEC HND, I
worked for about 6 months as a general labourer. I was also signed on
to the dole, and I declared the days I was working and the amount I
earned. The dole [1] was adjusted accordingly, often to zero in any one
week. It appears now that it isn't possible to do that - you are either
employed or on the dole, but you can't remain signed on even if you're
working short term. Therefore people don't bother getting short term
work because of the hassle in signing on and off. That can't be an
improvement, can it?

Indeed not. It's just typical government lunacy.

There is, apparantly, an even worse catch.

If you are ill, you can get invalidity benefit which is higher than 'the dole'
(I don't know by how much, but presumably a worthwhile amount). However, you
don't get this for some months.

Some people have long term conditions such as depression, back pain or 'chronic
tiredness syndrome' for which they have beed awarded invalidty benefit. These
conditions are often aggravated in unforseeable ways by types and amounts of
activity.

If, however, these people's condition appears to improve, and would like to try
to work again, they are faced with a dilemma.

If they sign off to try and work, and the effort worsens their condition, they
are now back on the lower rate of benefit for several months. Since people,
particularly people who are used to working and having a proper salary,
frequently build up debts whilst adjusting to their dramatically reduced income,
this can be too much of a risk if there is any doubt in their mind that they can
work for long enough to at least save to cover the shortfall.

Yet another piece of incredibly incompetant and short sighted rule making by the
government.