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  1. I know you are reading this. When you trash me and hide behind a kill file,
    you are demonstrating your lack of ethics.

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Subject: Re: KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL AT FOUR
    From: "Mike" [email hidden]
    Date: 10/3/2003 8:34 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    I support the child getting kicked out at school. We shouldn't tolerate
    abusive behavior from anyone.

    "Marko Proberto" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Please repost as she allegedly is killfiling me.

    Jan-the-Child-Hater (my opinion) supports this!

    Your opinion is as far off as your dishonesty.

    In my opinion, my opinion that you really hate children, is right on. You
    ane anti-vac and anti-proper treatment for serious, real medical conditions.

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    Poor Liar Mark Probert. Just can't stand to be killfilled and this is the
    biggest lie he has ever told.

    An opinion cannot be a lie. That is taught in the 1st grade.

    Of course, God will forgive him, as most any sane

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    person knows anyone who has chosen to go into the daycare business


    certainly

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    does not hate kids.

    Sure. After wiping snot for 38 years, one can change, and you obviously
    have, assuming that you once loved kids.

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    Also very interesting that "Mike"nospam@hotmail has never posted here


    before. I

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    just can't figure that out.

    Add that to the ever growing, and massive list, of things you do not
    understand.

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    KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL AT FOUR

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    BY KATHERINE JACQUES

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    17:00 - 18 September 2003

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    A Tonbridge toddler has become one of the youngest children in the


    country

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    to be excluded from school because of his outrageous behaviour.

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    Four-year-old Paul Holmewood was thrown out of Cage Green Primary


    School

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    four days after term started for being aggressive to other children and
    swearing at and threatening teachers.

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    He was also said to disrupt lessons, put himself and his classmates at


    risk,

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    climb over everything and tell staff he planned to run away.

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    However, Paul suffers from attention deficit hyperactivity disorder


    (ADHD)

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    and his mother Alison believes that by excluding him, he is being


    punished

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    for being ill.

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    She said staff were well aware of his condition before he started


    reception

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    class and believes the decision to exclude him was taken too quickly.

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    Miss Holmewood, of Audley Avenue, said: "Paul wasn't given a chance.


    The

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    school was aware he needed constant attention or he would crave it in


    other

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    ways."

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    Paul has suffered with ADHD for about two years and is Miss Holmewood's
    second child to suffer with it.

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    The 28-year-old said: "Paul is too young to be prescribed Ritalin but if


    I

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    cope with two children who both suffer from ADHD I cannot see why paid
    professionals can't."

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    According to a social services report Paul is a confident and bubbly


    boy

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    but

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    is said to turn quickly from being affectionate to aggressive and


    seeking

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    attention negatively.

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    It says he has adopted a swagger, his body language is similar to an
    arrogant teenager and he has little recognition of danger. When


    travelling

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    in cars he will take off his seat belt, open windows and try to hang


    out.

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    He

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    also climbs out of the front window of his home to escape down the road

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    Paul has been excluded for a fixed period and is allowed to attend


    school

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    only three mornings a week.

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    In the meantime Miss Holmewood feels he is missing out on his vital
    education. She added: "I want Paul to be statemented so he gets the


    support

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    he needs. But I feel he should not have been excluded in the first


    place.

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    Children like him will think that acting up in the classroom is a great


    way to stay off school."

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    However, headteacher Sue Miller said Paul caused such disruption that


    there

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    was no option other than to exclude him.

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    But she said an additional learning support assistant had been employed


    for

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    his class and she hoped to integrate Paul into school slowly, starting


    with

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    three mornings per week.

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    She added: "I am currently arranging a meeting to look at Paul's needs


    and

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    make sure he gets the right support so he can settle into an


    educational

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    environment."


    Number 1. Who diagnosed him at age two??

    Apparently soneone who is knowledgeable about child psychology, as it seems
    from the article, they were right.

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    Number 2. How much *loving* discipline did he get at home?

    Probably a lot. Most ADHD kids are subjected to more discipline than is good
    for them .

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    Number 3. How much was he yelled at, at home??

    Probably a lot, in th ebeginning, as parents do become frustrated when their
    child cannot engage is age appropriate behavior to the point where they are
    this disruptive.

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    Now, what drug pusher Mark Probert doesn't know, is I had kids like that


    in my

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    daycare. None of them were expelled.

    Good for you. That is NOT the general experience of the ADHD parents I know.
    This article shows exactly what has happened to many of the children. It
    happened to my son.

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    Now, get ready for this Mark.

    I am always ready.

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    My hubby worked night shift. He gave up his sleep, CAME TO THE CENTER, AND
    CARRIED THIS CHILD AROUND, giving him chance after chance to control


    himself,

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    if he did NOT, my hubby picked him back up in his loving arms and carried


    him

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    around some more.

    Wodnerful. I gave up a career working for the US government which I loved. I
    was doing something that made a major difference in the lives of my fellow
    Americans, even yours. I left federal service to be a "at home Dad" to my
    son.

    This was a decision that I made freely, and I consider it to be the second
    most important decision I made as a parent. You already know what the first
    one was.

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    We then worked with the parents and found all the child heard at home was
    negative yelling.

    That happens. However, it is not the cause of ADHD.

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    That happened more than once. Hate kids, I think not. My hubby displayed


    more

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    love that you can even imagine.

    Wrong. I can imagine far more than that for two reasons:

    1. I practice it.
    2. I have seen it when someone sacrifices their life for someone else. There
    is no greater love than that.

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    The child did NOT NEED TO BE DRUGGED.

    Perhaps that child did not need it. However, there are others who most
    definitely need it.

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    I'm sure this is not the reply you expected, however it is the truth.

    And, my reply is the absolute truth. However, you will deny that. (Note that
    I did not deny yours.)

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    I have NO respect for anyone who pushes DRUGS ON YOUNG CHILDREN!!

    I have no respect for anyone who denies real disorders and denies effective
    treatment for those disorders. (Who doe sthat sound like????)

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    That would be YOU, in your quest to support organized medicine.

    I suppor tproper treatment.Show me an alternative one that is proper
    treatment and I will support it.

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    Just as three years ago, you can call me a liar, now you see that the


    doctors

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    freely admit that they do prescribe it, even though it is NOT to be given


    to

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    kids under six.

    It is being tested for safety and efficacy for kids under six, and, so far,
    no problems.

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    You see, the truth comes out sooner or later, and in all honesty, you owe


    me an

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    apology for calling me a liar three years ago. but being the drug pusher


    you

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    are, I won't expect it.

    Re-post my exat words, in full context, and let';s see what I said that has
    got your thong up your butt.

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    All I can do is pray for you because you are just one of the few who is
    terribly misguided. That happens when you deny Jesus.

    PLEASE! Do not pray for me. Do not choose me. Your ilk cooses my people for
    Crusades, Inquisitions, Pogroms and Holocausts.

  2. <<
    I know you are reading this. When you trash me and hide behind a kill file,
    you are demonstrating your lack of ethics. >>

    And your ethics are...where?

    "If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).

  3. "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <<
    I know you are reading this. When you trash me and hide behind a kill


    file,

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    you are demonstrating your lack of ethics. >>

    And your ethics are...where?

    Right out in the open. I do not whine to close email accounts or get people
    kicked off of ISPs, and do not report people to the police, etc.

    Now, where are yours? use a rife Microscope tofind them.

  4. << Right out in the open. I do not whine to close email accounts or get people
    kicked off of ISPs, and do not report people to the police, etc.

    Now, where are yours? use a rife Microscope tofind them.

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    When they participate in violating a court order, and it is interfering with
    your life, I'm sure you'd do the same...even after all of the baiting from
    Ilsa, and friends, and I recently discovered the "connection" between a
    particular issue of "Biography Magazine", was connected to the Quackwatch
    organization. Isn't that special?
    (Case # CV98-5462) in the United States District Court In and for the Central
    District of California.

    All parties further agree and stipulate that each shall not interfere, tamper,
    hinder, damage, inhibit, obstruct, disrupt, or otherwise harm the
    communications and speech of any other party, except to the extent consistent
    with this Stipulation and the Order of Permanent injunction to be entered by
    the Court. Said stipulation and agreement pertains to all activities which
    might afffect any party's use of any communications media, including
    interference with, tampering with, obtaining unauthorized access to and/or
    unauthorized use of any party's mail, telephone service, electronic mail,
    Internal postal addresses, Internet service accounts, computer equipment,
    software and hardware. Said stipulation and agreement pertains to sending
    improper, harassing, and/or unwanted communications, letters, telephone calls,
    emails, "web-links", pictures, written material, sounds, voice and sound
    recordings, messages and the like.

    Got a problem with staying on the right side of the law, Probert?

  5. What does this mean? Probert is a criminal?
    Anth

    "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    << Right out in the open. I do not whine to close email accounts or get


    people

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    kicked off of ISPs, and do not report people to the police, etc.

    Now, where are yours? use a rife Microscope tofind them.

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    When they participate in violating a court order, and it is interfering


    with

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    your life, I'm sure you'd do the same...even after all of the baiting from
    Ilsa, and friends, and I recently discovered the "connection" between a
    particular issue of "Biography Magazine", was connected to the Quackwatch
    organization. Isn't that special?
    (Case # CV98-5462) in the United States District Court In and for the


    Central

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    District of California.

    All parties further agree and stipulate that each shall not interfere,


    tamper,

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    hinder, damage, inhibit, obstruct, disrupt, or otherwise harm the
    communications and speech of any other party, except to the extent


    consistent

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    with this Stipulation and the Order of Permanent injunction to be entered


    by

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    the Court. Said stipulation and agreement pertains to all activities


    which

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    might afffect any party's use of any communications media, including
    interference with, tampering with, obtaining unauthorized access to and/or
    unauthorized use of any party's mail, telephone service, electronic mail,
    Internal postal addresses, Internet service accounts, computer equipment,
    software and hardware. Said stipulation and agreement pertains to sending
    improper, harassing, and/or unwanted communications, letters, telephone


    calls,

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    emails, "web-links", pictures, written material, sounds, voice and sound
    recordings, messages and the like.

    Got a problem with staying on the right side of the law, Probert?

  6. No, it means that Debbee cannot post a coherent message. I could not figure
    out what she is yakkiung about.

    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What does this mean? Probert is a criminal?
    Anth

    "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    << Right out in the open. I do not whine to close email accounts or get


    people

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    kicked off of ISPs, and do not report people to the police, etc.

    Now, where are yours? use a rife Microscope tofind them.

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    >


    When they participate in violating a court order, and it is interfering


    with

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    your life, I'm sure you'd do the same...even after all of the baiting


    from

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    Ilsa, and friends, and I recently discovered the "connection" between a
    particular issue of "Biography Magazine", was connected to the


    Quackwatch

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    organization. Isn't that special?
    (Case # CV98-5462) in the United States District Court In and for the


    Central

    Quoted message said:

    District of California.

    All parties further agree and stipulate that each shall not interfere,


    tamper,

    Quoted message said:

    hinder, damage, inhibit, obstruct, disrupt, or otherwise harm the
    communications and speech of any other party, except to the extent


    consistent

    Quoted message said:

    with this Stipulation and the Order of Permanent injunction to be


    entered

    Quoted message said:

    by

    Quoted message said:

    the Court. Said stipulation and agreement pertains to all activities


    which

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    might afffect any party's use of any communications media, including
    interference with, tampering with, obtaining unauthorized access to


    and/or

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    unauthorized use of any party's mail, telephone service, electronic


    mail,

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    Internal postal addresses, Internet service accounts, computer


    equipment,

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    software and hardware. Said stipulation and agreement pertains to


    sending

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    improper, harassing, and/or unwanted communications, letters, telephone


    calls,

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    emails, "web-links", pictures, written material, sounds, voice and sound
    recordings, messages and the like.

    Got a problem with staying on the right side of the law, Probert?

  7. <<
    No, it means that Debbee cannot post a coherent message. I could not figure
    out what she is yakkiung about.

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    No, it means that Probert, who was an attorney, cannot figure out, that I have
    a problem with those that have been tampering with my telephone lines, and have
    enlisted the services of law enforcement officials from various agencies to
    assist with this criminal activity. Probert doesn't seem to think that people
    should go to the police....that's lawyer thinking...we pay for the services of
    those in blue...why pay for an attorney when you don't need one...

    "If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).

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    , that I have

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    a problem with those that have been tampering with my telephone lines,


    [...]

    It's just squirrels scampering onto your roof...

    then again...it might be the bats in your belfry.

  9. "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    << Right out in the open. I do not whine to close email accounts or get


    people

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    kicked off of ISPs, and do not report people to the police, etc.

    Now, where are yours? use a rife Microscope tofind them.

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    When they participate in violating a court order, and it is interfering


    with

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    your life, I'm sure you'd do the same...

    The people you whine about in this newsgroup have done none of these. This
    is what Jan calls a diversion.

    even after all of the baiting from

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    Ilsa, and friends, and I recently discovered the "connection" between a
    particular issue of "Biography Magazine", was connected to the Quackwatch
    organization. Isn't that special?

    Why not tell about it here?

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    (Case # CV98-5462) in the United States District Court In and for the


    Central

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    District of California.

    Cannot be found online.

    Quoted message said:

    All parties further agree and stipulate that each shall not interfere,


    tamper,

    Quoted message said:

    hinder, damage, inhibit, obstruct, disrupt, or otherwise harm the
    communications and speech of any other party, except to the extent


    consistent

    Quoted message said:

    with this Stipulation and the Order of Permanent injunction to be entered


    by

    Quoted message said:

    the Court. Said stipulation and agreement pertains to all activities


    which

    Quoted message said:

    might afffect any party's use of any communications media, including
    interference with, tampering with, obtaining unauthorized access to and/or
    unauthorized use of any party's mail, telephone service, electronic mail,
    Internal postal addresses, Internet service accounts, computer equipment,
    software and hardware. Said stipulation and agreement pertains to sending
    improper, harassing, and/or unwanted communications, letters, telephone


    calls,

    Quoted message said:

    emails, "web-links", pictures, written material, sounds, voice and sound
    recordings, messages and the like.

    Got a problem with staying on the right side of the law, Probert?

    Nope. But, you have been sued, haven;t you, for false statements? Eh?

  10. "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <<
    No, it means that Debbee cannot post a coherent message. I could not


    figure

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    out what she is yakkiung about.

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    No, it means that Probert, who was an attorney, cannot figure out, that I


    have

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    a problem with those that have been tampering with my telephone lines, and


    have

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    enlisted the services of law enforcement officials from various agencies


    to

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    assist with this criminal activity. Probert doesn't seem to think that


    people

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    should go to the police....that's lawyer thinking...we pay for the


    services of

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    those in blue...why pay for an attorney when you don't need one...

    Peopel should go to the police when it is real, not imagined.

  11. "Markasurus Probertasaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <<
    No, it means that Debbee cannot post a coherent message. I could not


    figure

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    out what she is yakkiung about.

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    >

    No, it means that Probert, who was an attorney, cannot figure out, that


    I

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    have

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    a problem with those that have been tampering with my telephone lines,


    and

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    have

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    enlisted the services of law enforcement officials from various


    agencies

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    to

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    assist with this criminal activity. Probert doesn't seem to think that


    people

    Quoted message said:

    should go to the police....that's lawyer thinking...we pay for the


    services of

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    those in blue...why pay for an attorney when you don't need one...

    Peopel should go to the police when it is real, not imagined.

    Let her go to the police. I want her to. Maybe one day all those
    paranoid delusions will enable her to get the professional help she so
    desperately needs. I wish it was then now.

    r

    --
    Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

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    "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    , that I have

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    a problem with those that have been tampering with my telephone lines,


    [...]

    It's just squirrels scampering onto your roof...

    then again...it might be the bats in your belfry.

    It could be those toys in her attic....the broken toys, that is.

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