I know you are reading this. When you trash me and hide behind a kill file,
you are demonstrating your lack of ethics.
"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Subject: Re: KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL AT FOUR
From: "Mike" [email hidden]
Date: 10/3/2003 8:34 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>I support the child getting kicked out at school. We shouldn't tolerate
abusive behavior from anyone."Marko Proberto" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:Please repost as she allegedly is killfiling me.
Jan-the-Child-Hater (my opinion) supports this!
Your opinion is as far off as your dishonesty.
In my opinion, my opinion that you really hate children, is right on. You
ane anti-vac and anti-proper treatment for serious, real medical conditions.
Quoted message said:Poor Liar Mark Probert. Just can't stand to be killfilled and this is the
biggest lie he has ever told.
An opinion cannot be a lie. That is taught in the 1st grade.
Of course, God will forgive him, as most any sane
Quoted message said:person knows anyone who has chosen to go into the daycare business
certainly
Quoted message said:does not hate kids.
Sure. After wiping snot for 38 years, one can change, and you obviously
have, assuming that you once loved kids.
Quoted message said:Also very interesting that "Mike"nospam@hotmail has never posted here
before. I
Quoted message said:just can't figure that out.
Add that to the ever growing, and massive list, of things you do not
understand.
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Quoted message said:KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL AT FOUR
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BY KATHERINE JACQUESQuoted message said:17:00 - 18 September 2003
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A Tonbridge toddler has become one of the youngest children in the
countryQuoted message said:to be excluded from school because of his outrageous behaviour.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Four-year-old Paul Holmewood was thrown out of Cage Green Primary
School
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:four days after term started for being aggressive to other children and
swearing at and threatening teachers.Quoted message said:Quoted message said:He was also said to disrupt lessons, put himself and his classmates at
risk,Quoted message said:climb over everything and tell staff he planned to run away.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:However, Paul suffers from attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
(ADHD)
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:and his mother Alison believes that by excluding him, he is being
punished
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:for being ill.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:She said staff were well aware of his condition before he started
receptionQuoted message said:class and believes the decision to exclude him was taken too quickly.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Miss Holmewood, of Audley Avenue, said: "Paul wasn't given a chance.
The
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:school was aware he needed constant attention or he would crave it in
otherQuoted message said:ways."
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Paul has suffered with ADHD for about two years and is Miss Holmewood's
second child to suffer with it.Quoted message said:The 28-year-old said: "Paul is too young to be prescribed Ritalin but if
I
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:cope with two children who both suffer from ADHD I cannot see why paid
professionals can't."Quoted message said:Quoted message said:According to a social services report Paul is a confident and bubbly
boy
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:but
Quoted message said:is said to turn quickly from being affectionate to aggressive and
seeking
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:attention negatively.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:It says he has adopted a swagger, his body language is similar to an
arrogant teenager and he has little recognition of danger. When
travelling
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:in cars he will take off his seat belt, open windows and try to hang
out.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:He
Quoted message said:also climbs out of the front window of his home to escape down the road
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Paul has been excluded for a fixed period and is allowed to attend
school
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:only three mornings a week.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:In the meantime Miss Holmewood feels he is missing out on his vital
education. She added: "I want Paul to be statemented so he gets the
supportQuoted message said:he needs. But I feel he should not have been excluded in the first
place.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Children like him will think that acting up in the classroom is a great
way to stay off school."Quoted message said:Quoted message said:However, headteacher Sue Miller said Paul caused such disruption that
thereQuoted message said:was no option other than to exclude him.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:But she said an additional learning support assistant had been employed
forQuoted message said:his class and she hoped to integrate Paul into school slowly, starting
withQuoted message said:three mornings per week.
Quoted message said:She added: "I am currently arranging a meeting to look at Paul's needs
and
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:make sure he gets the right support so he can settle into an
educational
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:environment."
Number 1. Who diagnosed him at age two??
Apparently soneone who is knowledgeable about child psychology, as it seems
from the article, they were right.
Quoted message said:Number 2. How much *loving* discipline did he get at home?
Probably a lot. Most ADHD kids are subjected to more discipline than is good
for them .
Quoted message said:Number 3. How much was he yelled at, at home??
Probably a lot, in th ebeginning, as parents do become frustrated when their
child cannot engage is age appropriate behavior to the point where they are
this disruptive.
Quoted message said:Now, what drug pusher Mark Probert doesn't know, is I had kids like that
in my
Quoted message said:daycare. None of them were expelled.
Good for you. That is NOT the general experience of the ADHD parents I know.
This article shows exactly what has happened to many of the children. It
happened to my son.
Quoted message said:Now, get ready for this Mark.
I am always ready.
Quoted message said:My hubby worked night shift. He gave up his sleep, CAME TO THE CENTER, AND
CARRIED THIS CHILD AROUND, giving him chance after chance to control
himself,
Quoted message said:if he did NOT, my hubby picked him back up in his loving arms and carried
him
Quoted message said:around some more.
Wodnerful. I gave up a career working for the US government which I loved. I
was doing something that made a major difference in the lives of my fellow
Americans, even yours. I left federal service to be a "at home Dad" to my
son.
This was a decision that I made freely, and I consider it to be the second
most important decision I made as a parent. You already know what the first
one was.
Quoted message said:We then worked with the parents and found all the child heard at home was
negative yelling.
That happens. However, it is not the cause of ADHD.
Quoted message said:That happened more than once. Hate kids, I think not. My hubby displayed
more
Quoted message said:love that you can even imagine.
Wrong. I can imagine far more than that for two reasons:
1. I practice it.
2. I have seen it when someone sacrifices their life for someone else. There
is no greater love than that.
Quoted message said:The child did NOT NEED TO BE DRUGGED.
Perhaps that child did not need it. However, there are others who most
definitely need it.
Quoted message said:I'm sure this is not the reply you expected, however it is the truth.
And, my reply is the absolute truth. However, you will deny that. (Note that
I did not deny yours.)
Quoted message said:I have NO respect for anyone who pushes DRUGS ON YOUNG CHILDREN!!
I have no respect for anyone who denies real disorders and denies effective
treatment for those disorders. (Who doe sthat sound like????)
Quoted message said:That would be YOU, in your quest to support organized medicine.
I suppor tproper treatment.Show me an alternative one that is proper
treatment and I will support it.
Quoted message said:Just as three years ago, you can call me a liar, now you see that the
doctors
Quoted message said:freely admit that they do prescribe it, even though it is NOT to be given
to
Quoted message said:kids under six.
It is being tested for safety and efficacy for kids under six, and, so far,
no problems.
Quoted message said:You see, the truth comes out sooner or later, and in all honesty, you owe
me an
Quoted message said:apology for calling me a liar three years ago. but being the drug pusher
you
Quoted message said:are, I won't expect it.
Re-post my exat words, in full context, and let';s see what I said that has
got your thong up your butt.
Quoted message said:All I can do is pray for you because you are just one of the few who is
terribly misguided. That happens when you deny Jesus.
PLEASE! Do not pray for me. Do not choose me. Your ilk cooses my people for
Crusades, Inquisitions, Pogroms and Holocausts.