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  1. "hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

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    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was because
    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's saying
    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

    It could be both. He did have a definative diagnosis done by muscle biopsy.
    EPO did make its presence felt at that time making it harder to compete if
    you were clean.

  2. Thanks for the article URL.
    Reading this, Lemond seems to be accusing EVERYBODY in the current
    peloton. I assume he means Ullrich, Hamilton, Basso, Kloden, Heras,
    (better check his supplier), Virenque (repeater?). Lemond is crazier
    than I thought.

    hold my beer and watch this... said:

    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was because
    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's saying
    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

  3. hold my beer and watch this... said:

    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was because
    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's saying
    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

    As time goes by he gets better and better in his own memory, the only
    way he could have been beaten was by cheaters. Think about it.

  4. http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was because
    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's saying
    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

  5. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was


    because

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's


    saying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

    As time goes by he gets better and better in his own memory, the only
    way he could have been beaten was by cheaters. Think about it.

    People with myopathy can't use EPO, some strange reaction happens.

  6. "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was


    because

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's


    saying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

    As time goes by he gets better and better in his own memory, the only
    way he could have been beaten was by cheaters. Think about it.

    People with myopathy can't use EPO, some strange reaction happens.

    ah, so he's probably bitter about that.

  7. "hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

    Quoted message said:


    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was because
    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's saying
    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

    I wonder how you can walk and chew gum at the same time with the mental
    powers you demonstrate.

  8. "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the article URL.
    Reading this, Lemond seems to be accusing EVERYBODY in the current
    peloton. I assume he means Ullrich, Hamilton, Basso, Kloden, Heras,
    (better check his supplier), Virenque (repeater?). Lemond is crazier
    than I thought.

    In that article they used that "orange juice" quote which has been
    demythologized. So I wouldn't be too quick to believe anything that was
    written there.

    For instance, can you believe for a second that Lance would tell Greg that
    he had to be on EPO to win a Tour? Would you beleive that Lance was telling
    Greg that if everyone was using EPO and getting so much faster then Greg had
    to have used it to to beat them?

    The whole tone of this article is like trdina, palachick and albright
    sucking off Lafferty.

  9. "Tom Kunich" wrote...

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    In that article they used that "orange juice" quote which has been
    demythologized. So I wouldn't be too quick to believe anything that was
    written there.

    "Lance was violent and very accusatory," LeMond said, rehashing a July, 2001
    phone conversation with Armstrong..."
    I'm still trying to figure out how you can be violent in a telephone call.

    JF

  10. "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Tom Kunich" wrote...

    Quoted message said:


    In that article they used that "orange juice" quote which has been
    demythologized. So I wouldn't be too quick to believe anything that was
    written there.

    "Lance was violent and very accusatory," LeMond said, rehashing a July,


    2001

    Quoted message said:

    phone conversation with Armstrong..."
    I'm still trying to figure out how you can be violent in a telephone call.

    JF

    You make an interesting point. It was addressed at some length in Hannah
    Arendt's book, "On Violence." Perhaps Lemond should have said "extremely
    angry."

  11. Jim Flom said:

    "Tom Kunich" wrote...

    Quoted message said:

    In that article they used that "orange juice" quote which has been
    demythologized. So I wouldn't be too quick to believe anything that was
    written there.

    "Lance was violent and very accusatory," LeMond said, rehashing a July, 2001
    phone conversation with Armstrong..."
    I'm still trying to figure out how you can be violent in a telephone call.

    You can slam down the receiver on a landline, but I'm mystified as to
    what constitutes violent behaviour on a cellphone.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Stewart Fleming said:
    Jim Flom said:

    "Tom Kunich" wrote...

    Quoted message said:

    In that article they used that "orange juice" quote which has been
    demythologized. So I wouldn't be too quick to believe anything that was
    written there.

    "Lance was violent and very accusatory," LeMond said, rehashing a July, 2001
    phone conversation with Armstrong..."
    I'm still trying to figure out how you can be violent in a telephone call.

    You can slam down the receiver on a landline, but I'm mystified as to
    what constitutes violent behaviour on a cellphone.

    Having Ice Cube's "Wicked" as the ring tone?

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    So far, so good, so what?

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  13. "Howard Kveck" wrote...

    Quoted message said:


    Having Ice Cube's "Wicked" as the ring tone?

    Maybe he was throwing pots.

  14. "hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was because
    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's saying
    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    In 1992, Lemond dropped out on the stage that Hampsten won...

    -ilan

  15. Yeah, and on Eddy Merckx won his first tour the same day neil armstrong
    landed on the moon.

    both snippets of information are equally applicable to the subject.

    "Ilan Vardi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was


    because

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's


    saying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    In 1992, Lemond dropped out on the stage that Hampsten won...

    -ilan

  16. B. Lafferty said:


    "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news😄zDMc.49418$2i3.19565@clgrps12...

    Quoted message said:

    "Tom Kunich" wrote...

    Quoted message said:


    In that article they used that "orange juice" quote which has been
    demythologized. So I wouldn't be too quick to believe anything that was
    written there.

    "Lance was violent and very accusatory," LeMond said, rehashing a July,


    2001

    Quoted message said:

    phone conversation with Armstrong..."
    I'm still trying to figure out how you can be violent in a telephone call.

    JF

    You make an interesting point. It was addressed at some length in Hannah
    Arendt's book, "On Violence."

    Someone wrote a book about rude phone calls? You read it? You like Arendt? You like this?:

    http://www.lawrence.edu/sorg/objectivism/socfasc.html

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps Lemond should have said "extremely
    angry."

    LOL. Rather like Kerry on TV today when he claimed he would have "framed" his statements
    differently (back (27 yo) when he was shrewdly creating a political future while posing as an
    anti-war veteran).

  17. "hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto61394
    5.shtml

    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was
    because he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here
    he's saying that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

    He had lead poisoning from the pelts in his body when he was shot.
    Further, the year Lemond stopped racing the TofF was the year the Tour
    started testing for steriods. Go figure.

    Lemond is a cry baby.

  18. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was because
    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's saying
    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

    Because he has an idiot for a brother in-law?
    ------------
    Alex

  19. Alex Rodriguez said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was because
    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's saying
    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    Well, which one is it...?

    Because he has an idiot for a brother in-law?

    Is it some law of nature that everyone gets one of those?

    I gotta say, Greg got the worst of that otherwise bad bunch.

    Ron

  20. "hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, and on Eddy Merckx won his first tour the same day neil armstrong
    landed on the moon.

    I was in Brussels to see both.

    Quoted message said:

    both snippets of information are equally applicable to the subject.

    Absolutely not. If Lemond claims that he couldn't keep up because others
    were on EPO while Hampsten, who also denounces doping,
    beats everyone up the Alpe d'Huez, then one of the two must be wrong.

    -ilan

    Quoted message said:

    "Ilan Vardi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S18/sport_Lng0_Spo18_Sto613945.shtml

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I thought the reason that LeMond sucked in the post 1990 tours was


    because

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he had 'mitochondrial myopathy' or some [censored] like that. Here he's


    saying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that it was because all those other guys were on EPO.

    In 1992, Lemond dropped out on the stage that Hampsten won...

    -ilan

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