Lemonade drinkers

John Hearns said:

I shouldn't really say this,
but apropos of the "are cyclists allowed to race on roads"
thread which is currently debating the definition of excise duty
versus tax, I wonder if a parallel can be drawn.

Should people drinking soft drinks be banned from public houses?

I avoid them anyway.
I have heard stories of cyclists being charged 2.70 for a pint of
orange squash, yes squash.
last time I used a pub on a 200k control I decide to order a pint of
bitter (well it was only 40 flat k to go) it cost 40p less than the
equivalent OJ and L

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But lets for fun draw a comparison - do drinkers in pubs think
that the excise duty on spirits is used to build better pubs?

I don't know about that, but money raised from tax on real ale should be
hypothecated into reserving a bar tender for real ale drinkers ;-)

John Hearns said:

But lets for fun draw a comparison - do drinkers in pubs think
that the excise duty on spirits is used to build better pubs?

Only if those pubs sell a decent real ale.

John B

MartinM said:

Quoted message said:

last time I used a pub on a 200k control I decide to order a pint of
bitter (well it was only 40 flat k to go) it cost 40p less than the
equivalent OJ and L

They probably charged you for 2 x orange juices and a pint of lemonade.
So I'm not surprised at the high price.

Cheapest by far is often a pint of soda and lime, as computerised tills
often only have them down as 'splashes' for 10 or 20p each.

John B

John Hearns said:

I shouldn't really say this,
but apropos of the "are cyclists allowed to race on roads"
thread which is currently debating the definition of excise duty
versus tax, I wonder if a parallel can be drawn.

Should people drinking soft drinks be banned from public houses?
Smiling about it, I guess hardened drinkers would say yes!

I realise why the uk.rec.cyling side argues strongly against the
term 'road tax' as it is connected in the minds of some drivers with
'road fund license', ie, the (incorrect) argument that somehow
VED goes to fund building of roads.

But lets for fun draw a comparison - do drinkers in pubs think
that the excise duty on spirits is used to build better pubs?

Sorry - just feeling silly. And please don't cross-post,
as I'd rather not get drawn into the other thread.

It's not a problem. Duty on tobacco is, or course, used to pay for pub
ashtrays.

Julesh

JohnB said:

John Hearns said:

But lets for fun draw a comparison - do drinkers in pubs think that the
excise duty on spirits is used to build better pubs?

Only if those pubs sell a decent real ale.

Ah. You cyclists - now showing your TRUE colours.
You want a Beer Fund License.
All drinkers to display a red badge (to go with their red noses).
The duty is hypothecated to pay for buxom barmaids to serve the perfect
pint of real ale (Nathaniel).

John Hearns said:

But lets for fun draw a comparison - do drinkers in pubs think
that the excise duty on spirits is used to build better pubs?

AIUI pubs make a *massive* profit on soft drinks compared to the
profit on beer, so I guess it's lemonade that builds better pubs!

--
jc

John Hearns said:

JohnB said:

John Hearns said:

But lets for fun draw a comparison - do drinkers in pubs think that the
excise duty on spirits is used to build better pubs?

Only if those pubs sell a decent real ale.

Ah. You cyclists - now showing your TRUE colours.
You want a Beer Fund License.

Slow down, lets not be greedy.
Just the 'Beer Fund' bit will do for now.

John B

John Hearns said:

But lets for fun draw a comparison - do drinkers in pubs think
that the excise duty on spirits is used to build better pubs?

excellent. 😄 I shall save that one for the next "bloody cyclists"
thread on the ng's at work - shouldnt take more than a few days ...

John Hearns said:

I shouldn't really say this,
but apropos of the "are cyclists allowed to race on roads"
thread which is currently debating the definition of excise duty
versus tax, I wonder if a parallel can be drawn.

Should people drinking soft drinks be banned from public houses?
Smiling about it, I guess hardened drinkers would say yes!

No but they should give up their seats in crowded pubs as a sign of
their deference. I think we could also build special non-alcoholic
drinking facilities next to say the toilets.

Quoted message said:

I realise why the uk.rec.cyling side argues strongly against the
term 'road tax' as it is connected in the minds of some drivers with
'road fund license', ie, the (incorrect) argument that somehow
VED goes to fund building of roads.

That is exactly right. What also annoys me is the deliberate bending of
the meanings of terms so that its not speed thats dangerous its
"inappropriate speed." Well I'm not really speeding because my speed
isnt inappropriate because I'm a good driver and Ive got a good (read
expensive) car which has good brakes. I'm alright Jack.

I noticed that on one of the threads in uk.transport the same people who
claim that watching a speedometer is dangerous praised WWII pilots who
could tell in battle by glancing at their instrument panels whether or
not anything was amiss.

There does seem to be a slight paranoia which creeps into these
discussions with governments becoming "they" cameras becoming "scameras"
and fines becoming "stealth taxes" etc.

Quoted message said:

But lets for fun draw a comparison - do drinkers in pubs think
that the excise duty on spirits is used to build better pubs?

Yes. And there are perfectly good non-drinkers facilities available in
the toilets.

Quoted message said:

Sorry - just feeling silly. And please don't cross-post,
as I'd rather not get drawn into the other thread.

MartinM said:

I have heard stories of cyclists being charged 2.70 for a pint of
orange squash, yes squash.

Yet on the Tavistock 200 I was given a pint of diluted lime cordial for
free -- and he filled up my bottle with the same!

_Very_ nice man.

John Hearns said:

I shouldn't really say this,
but apropos of the "are cyclists allowed to race on roads"
thread which is currently debating the definition of excise duty
versus tax, I wonder if a parallel can be drawn.

Should people drinking soft drinks be banned from public houses?
Smiling about it, I guess hardened drinkers would say yes!

I realise why the uk.rec.cyling side argues strongly against the
term 'road tax' as it is connected in the minds of some drivers with
'road fund license', ie, the (incorrect) argument that somehow
VED goes to fund building of roads.

But lets for fun draw a comparison - do drinkers in pubs think
that the excise duty on spirits is used to build better pubs?

Sorry - just feeling silly. And please don't cross-post,
as I'd rather not get drawn into the other thread.

Bloody lemonade drinkers.

Simonb said:

Bloody lemonade drinkers.

Yeah, run them outta the pub, they don't pay Road sorry beer tax,
insist on holding us up at the bar while they drink slowly, don't have
insurance, or even smoke half the time.

On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:56:44 +0100, John Hearns <[email hidden]>

wrote in message : said:

I shouldn't really say this,

Quite right. 's a secret, innit? I remember the song. As sung by
Elvis Costello's dad, if I remember me rightly.

Guy
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simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

Vincent Wilcox said:

there are perfectly good non-drinkers facilities available in
the toilets.

I know that dogs have been known to drink from the lavatory, but this
is ridiculous.

you know? said:

Quite right. 's a secret, innit? I remember the song. As sung by
Elvis Costello's dad, if I remember me rightly.

R-White's.

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I noticed that on one of the threads in uk.transport the same people who
claim that watching a speedometer is dangerous praised WWII pilots who
could tell in battle by glancing at their instrument panels whether or
not anything was amiss.

The thing to do is to orientate the dial so at optimum operating conditions
the needles are pointing straight up (as once done on rev counters for max
revs).
If everything is hunky dory all the gauges will have their needles pointing
straight up or say between 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock, any abnormal deviation
is easy to spot when glancing across the instrument panel.
To apply this to motorcars would require a rotating bezel on the speedo for
differing limits, in this day of GPS, Satnavs etc it can't be so difficult
to automate this system, it's one step short of automatically controlling
max speeds by Big Brother.

Pete

Al C-F said:

Vincent Wilcox said:

there are perfectly good non-drinkers facilities available in
the toilets.

I know that dogs have been known to drink from the lavatory, but this
is ridiculous.

Why? Probably neither better nor worse than the soft drinks available
in most pubs, and a d*** site better value.

--
Not me guv

Just zis Guy, you know? popped their head over the parapet saw what was
going on and said

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On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:56:44 +0100, John Hearns <[email hidden]>

wrote in message : said:

I shouldn't really say this,

Quoted message said:

Quite right. 's a secret, innit? I remember the song. As sung by
Elvis Costello's dad, if I remember me rightly.

As a Scot have never seen the "secret lemonade drinker" advert (have
read about it tho' and seen it on the "I love the ..." shows) nor have I
seen bottles of R White's, Globe was the manufacturer of soft drinks
around here. Where I went to do my degree (Dundee) the Okai group used
to make "Merimates" remember them?

--
yours S

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione