Legit w/BAA?

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claims "accepted by the BAA" in the context of it being legal/valid to
enter the race via this method....i'm sure he knows he's....well
lying.

i'm sure the bigger marathons are going to develop a means to end this
emerging cottage industry. i would not be surprised if photos were
soon in the corner on bibs. would not be trouble at all at pick up to
have a headshot-printer set up that quickly placed photos on bibs.
after all...at the nyc marathon they require you to scan your chip to
make sure it's funcitoning properly. or you're going to have the
bring picture id right up to the start.

I'm quite sure this is not legit. From the BAA website:
Unfortunately numbers are non-transferable and entry fees are non-
refundable. You may not give your number to someone else."

Selling (or giving away) bibs to races creates problems for the race
director in two areas: Liability (although how they are liable for liars
is questionable), and results, although this only really affects those
who might place within their age group - i.e. if you bought my bib (okay,
I'm not running) you would be in the 45-50 age group. If you turned out
to be a very good 20something runner, you could win or place in the
group, and unfairly take a prize.

However, I don't understand why the big races don't just put in a
reasonable handling fee for transfers. How difficult would it be to
process a small percentage of people who for whatever reason (injury,
family crises, work conflicts, etc.) are no longer free to run on that
date? For the person selling, it is tough to just swallow the costs and
train again for next year (although the BAA does allow you to defer your
entry for a year if you tell them you are injured).

dh

just to be clear, the baa allows you to defer your 'entry slot', not
your entry payment. you have to pay the whole fee again.

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Quoted message said:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2913&item=7141318425&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

claims "accepted by the BAA" in the context of it being legal/valid to
enter the race via this method....i'm sure he knows he's....well
lying.

He is full of [censored] and if he gets caught he will never ever get to the
do the race again, at least under his name.

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i'm sure the bigger marathons are going to develop a means to end this
emerging cottage industry.

They claim to control this by demanding a picture id when you pick up
your number. In my 10 trips they never did ask to see my ID. It's likely
my honest face. You on the other hand, they might want two or three
forms of ID. 🙂 To those that have run it in the past few years - did
they ask for an ID?

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i would not be surprised if photos were
soon in the corner on bibs.

Never. If they control number pickup they will stop all but the local
Boston folks(authentic number pick up and hand to someone else). If
people create damn good copies of money with today's print technology,
they can make a number at the drop of hat with or without a picture.
There is just so much policing you can do. Besides, unless something has
changed in the last few years you can run as a bandit and they don't
give a [censored]. As long as they still provide a starting place for bandits,
there is no need to buy a number.

It's half way through a 5 day auction and I don't see any bids. I don't
see a cottage industry just some greedy dude that's gonna get his ass in
a jam if his name ever comes to light.

-DougF

You just like things that dgo "BAA BAA", all you andrews are sheep
shaggers.

You just like things that go "BAA BAA", all you andrews are sheep
shaggers.

There were a lot of people doing this for the Indy Half-Marathon this year.
It was the first year they allowed transfers, and those with transfers to
give up were doubling their money -- and more -- on eBay. I like the idea
of being able to transfer (I received a transferred registration, but did
it through a message board without getting hit for a 'premium.'😉. But I
fear that it'll end up like scalpers and concert tickets, where someone
goes in and buys hundreds of entries in a limited-field race, only so they
can resell them at a profit later.

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i'm sure the bigger marathons are going to develop a means to end this
emerging cottage industry. i would not be surprised if photos were
soon in the corner on bibs. would not be trouble at all at pick up to
have a headshot-printer set up that quickly placed photos on bibs.
after all...at the nyc marathon they require you to scan your chip to
make sure it's funcitoning properly. or you're going to have the
bring picture id right up to the start.

Yeah, photos on the bibs would help. It's hard to tell one impotent
mouth breather from another, without photo identification.

"You just like things that dgo
'BAA BAA,' all you andrews are sheep
Shaggers."
~ Devon Wellhung

"BAA BAA ~
Rhyme scheme?"
~ Twittering

Doug Freese said:

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claims "accepted by the BAA" in the context of it being legal/valid

to

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enter the race via this method....i'm sure he knows he's....well
lying.

He is full of [censored] and if he gets caught he will never ever get to

the

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do the race again, at least under his name.

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i'm sure the bigger marathons are going to develop a means to end

this

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emerging cottage industry.

They claim to control this by demanding a picture id when you pick up

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your number. In my 10 trips they never did ask to see my ID. It's

likely

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my honest face. You on the other hand, they might want two or three
forms of ID. 🙂 To those that have run it in the past few years - did

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they ask for an ID?

Back in 95 when I last did NYC I was requested, along with everybody
else, to present picture ID. Picture ID is requested for all those
giant races now. At least it says so in the acceptance material. I
believe they do require it but does the person doing registration
really look long and hard?

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It's half way through a 5 day auction and I don't see any bids. I

don't

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see a cottage industry just some greedy dude that's gonna get his ass

in

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a jam if his name ever comes to light.

I agree there isn't any cottage industry to speak of. Shooting numbers
out of my ass without checking I'd guess that if 100 of those entered
in Boston sold their entry it would be alot.

Andy

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-DougF

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Back in 95 when I last did NYC I was requested, along with everybody
else, to present picture ID. Picture ID is requested for all those
giant races now. At least it says so in the acceptance material. I
believe they do require it but does the person doing registration
really look long and hard?

Don't remember how closely they looked last year when I did NYCM, but
they did look; I was out on a jog a couple days before the race and
realized I was within easy reach of the Javits Center, but didn't have
my ID with me; I stopped in anyway, they said no go.

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Brian P. Baresch
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

What is wrong with these race directors. Marine Corps allows for
transfers for $20 fee and they don't seem any worse for the wear. It
just seems to me that if you bought enough of everything for all the
people who paid to run your race - and races are often ranked on the
basis of participation numbers - that you would want as many people to
show up and run as possible. Oh, I see they are making a profit off of
the didn't runs.

OTOH, Boston is slightly different with qualifing times, but the rest
don't really have much of an excuse, except maybe laziness and greed.
But I am sure they would assure us they were saving us from a horrible
black market of bibdom.

Newsdude said:

There were a lot of people doing this for the Indy Half-Marathon this year.
It was the first year they allowed transfers, and those with transfers to
give up were doubling their money -- and more -- on eBay. I like the idea
of being able to transfer (I received a transferred registration, but did
it through a message board without getting hit for a 'premium.'😉. But I
fear that it'll end up like scalpers and concert tickets, where someone
goes in and buys hundreds of entries in a limited-field race, only so they
can resell them at a profit later.

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Quoted message said:

i'm sure the bigger marathons are going to develop a means to end this
emerging cottage industry. i would not be surprised if photos were
soon in the corner on bibs. would not be trouble at all at pick up to
have a headshot-printer set up that quickly placed photos on bibs.
after all...at the nyc marathon they require you to scan your chip to
make sure it's funcitoning properly. or you're going to have the
bring picture id right up to the start.