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  1. Sort of interesting article about the cardiovascular risks for women who
    store weight in their legs and hips rather than in the abdomen. The
    article is at:
    <http://heart.healthcentersonline.com/newsstories/legfatdoesnotincr
    easeheartdiseaserisk.cfm?nl=1>

    if that link doesn't work for you, go to the healthcentersonline site and
    search for leg fat.

    As a woman who has a classic pear shape I was interested in this (although
    of course that's pre-menopausal, in 10 years or so, all bets might be
    off).

    Two of the significant paragraphs were:
    "If a woman is fortunate enough to store her fat primarily in the legs,
    hips and thighs and can keep from gaining much fat in the abdominal
    region, then her risk of cardiovascular disease will likely be low," study
    author Dr. Rachael E. Van Pelt of the University of Colorado at Denver
    told Reuters Health."

    and

    "The investigators found that excess leg fat alone, without abdominal fat,
    appeared to have no unhealthy influence on any cardiovascular risk
    factors. In fact, women who carried extra leg fat appeared to have lower
    levels of triglycerides in their blood, suggesting that leg fat may even
    protect women against cardiovascular disease."

    But, it seems to me that they may be making assumptions as to what is the
    cause and what is the effect. From the article, they seem to be assuming
    that the leg fat *causes* the lower triglycerides, but it seems to me
    equally possible that some genetic or environmental factor (diet or
    exercise for example)may be the cause of both the tendency towards the
    female pattern weight distribition and the lower triglycerides.

    I especially wonder about this since I have had lipo to remove fat mostly
    in the hips and thighs. Despite having about 15 lbs of fat removed from
    this area, my tris are still extremely low (in the 40s - 50s range). As
    I'm losing more fat from that area (my exercise program looks like it's
    paying off), I'll keep an eye on my tris to see if they go up as my fat %
    goes down. But I'll be surprised if they do.

    Martha

    --

  2. Martha S. Gallagher wrote:
    :: Sort of interesting article about the cardiovascular risks for women
    :: who store weight in their legs and hips rather than in the abdomen.
    :: The article is at:
    :: <http://heart.healthcentersonline.com/newsstories/legfatdoesnotincr
    :: easeheartdiseaserisk.cfm?nl=1>
    ::
    :: if that link doesn't work for you, go to the healthcentersonline
    :: site and search for leg fat.
    ::
    :: As a woman who has a classic pear shape I was interested in this
    :: (although of course that's pre-menopausal, in 10 years or so, all
    :: bets might be off).
    ::
    :: Two of the significant paragraphs were:
    :: "If a woman is fortunate enough to store her fat primarily in the
    :: legs, hips and thighs and can keep from gaining much fat in the
    :: abdominal region, then her risk of cardiovascular disease will
    :: likely be low," study author Dr. Rachael E. Van Pelt of the
    :: University of Colorado at Denver told Reuters Health."
    ::
    :: and
    ::
    :: "The investigators found that excess leg fat alone, without
    :: abdominal fat, appeared to have no unhealthy influence on any
    :: cardiovascular risk factors. In fact, women who carried extra leg
    :: fat appeared to have lower levels of triglycerides in their blood,
    :: suggesting that leg fat may even protect women against
    :: cardiovascular disease."
    ::
    :: But, it seems to me that they may be making assumptions as to what
    :: is the cause and what is the effect. From the article, they seem to
    :: be assuming that the leg fat *causes* the lower triglycerides, but
    :: it seems to me equally possible that some genetic or environmental
    :: factor (diet or exercise for example)may be the cause of both the
    :: tendency towards the female pattern weight distribition and the
    :: lower triglycerides.
    ::
    :: I especially wonder about this since I have had lipo to remove fat
    :: mostly in the hips and thighs. Despite having about 15 lbs of fat
    :: removed from this area, my tris are still extremely low (in the 40s
    :: - 50s range). As I'm losing more fat from that area (my exercise
    :: program looks like it's paying off), I'll keep an eye on my tris to
    :: see if they go up as my fat % goes down. But I'll be surprised if
    :: they do.

    Are the saying basically the same thing about guys, too, mainly that extra
    belly fat is bad news?

    Also, when I read "tris" I think you were referring to triceps, not
    triglycerides ("trigs"😉. 🙂

    I don't think more leg fat causes low trigs, though. I would tend to agree
    with your view on that. Researchers tend to have built-in biases, either
    fat is bad or fat is good, rather than some people just are unlucky in life
    (bad combination of parents or bad environment).

  3. On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Roger Zoul wrote:

    ;Martha S. Gallagher wrote:
    ;:: Sort of interesting article about the cardiovascular risks for women
    ;:: who store weight in their legs and hips rather than in the abdomen.
    ;:: The article is at:
    ;:: <http://heart.healthcentersonline.com/newsstories/legfatdoesnotincr
    ;:: easeheartdiseaserisk.cfm?nl=1>
    ;::
    ;
    ;Are the saying basically the same thing about guys, too, mainly that extra
    ;belly fat is bad news?

    Yes, the study they are citing seems to have been exclusively on women,
    but in a larger perspective it seems to be pretty well established that
    the typically male body fat pattern (gut, but tending towards not
    particularly fat hips or legs) is associated with increased cardiovascular
    risk. Although, again, is it the fat that's causing the problem or is it
    whatever is causing the fat to be preferentially deposited there?

    Specifically,
    "For instance, experts now believe that the reason men have a higher risk
    of cardiovascular disease is that they are more likely to accumulate
    abdominal fat. After menopause, the risk of both cardiovascular disease
    and abdominal fat appears to climb in women, as well."

    So, for men, the normal fat storage pattern is bad news, whereas for women
    what is normal for the gender (pear shape) isn't so much of a problem
    until age, insulin resistance or other factors cause them to develop the
    typically male shape.

    ;Also, when I read "tris" I think you were referring to triceps, not
    ;triglycerides ("trigs"😉. 🙂
    ;

    My triceps are definitely getting bigger. Still a long way to go, but
    starting to be able to see *some* definition. I *love* strength training.

    ;I don't think more leg fat causes low trigs, though. I would tend to agree
    ;with your view on that. Researchers tend to have built-in biases, either
    ;fat is bad or fat is good, rather than some people just are unlucky in life
    ;(bad combination of parents or bad environment).

    But, if it turns out that leg fat *is* protective, being very altruistic,
    I'm willing to be a donor. <g>

    Martha

    --

  4. "Martha S. Gallagher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "The investigators found that excess leg fat alone, without abdominal fat,
    appeared to have no unhealthy influence on any cardiovascular risk
    factors. In fact, women who carried extra leg fat appeared to have lower
    levels of triglycerides in their blood, suggesting that leg fat may even
    protect women against cardiovascular disease."

    But, it seems to me that they may be making assumptions as to what is the
    cause and what is the effect. From the article, they seem to be assuming
    that the leg fat *causes* the lower triglycerides, but it seems to me
    equally possible that some genetic or environmental factor (diet or
    exercise for example)may be the cause of both the tendency towards the
    female pattern weight distribition and the lower triglycerides.

    Visceral fat, the kind around the abdominal organs, is known to increase
    insulin resistance. High triglycerides is a marker for insulin resistance.

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

  5. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  6. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  7. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  8. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  9. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  10. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  11. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  12. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  13. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  14. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  15. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  16. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  17. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  18. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  19. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

  20. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

    I have super low triglycerides -- 28 at the last reading in May 05.

    I also have stubborn fat on my hips and thighs and have considered
    lipo.

    I would be very interested in hearing about your lipo experience. Since
    I'm already below my goal weight I can't really justify the lipo. But
    no matter how much jogging, squating, lunging, and lifting I do I
    always have these chubby lil lovehandles and my thighs touch. It's damn
    frustrating!

    Anyway
    , great article, thanks again.

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