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  1. Adding a head-mounted LED

    http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&categoryId=40288&shop_method=qs&feat=qs&catalog_id=BV

    (you will have to cut and paste the split line, or go to www.llbean.com , search BV49775 ) $35

    to a see-me light on the handlebars solves the weak illumination problem

    This one happens to fit underneath my old Bell helmet okay, if I wear the helmet a little
    high in the front.

    Being able to put the light where you want from instant to instant overcomes the missing
    illumination feeling that LEDs give you, even running on low (it says 40h on its 3 AAA's).

    I'm able to run with one LED on the handlebars for a see-me and work the headlamp
    for complete comfort.

    Aside from that, it's the world's greatest invention, putting light wherever you walk
    when the power goes out in the house.

    The LLBean version has a continuously adjustable angle.

    Campmor has the same light with a click-stop thingy

    http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?partNumber=55943

    same price. I can't say which is better, but it's a nice technology. Campmor
    tends to have things in stock where LLBean is always backordered.
    --
    Ron Hardin
    [email hidden]

    On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

  2. Ron Hardin said:

    Adding a head-mounted LED

    http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&categoryId=40288&shop_method=qs&feat=qs&catalog_id=BV

    (you will have to cut and paste the split line, or go to www.llbean.com , search BV49775 ) $35

    to a see-me light on the handlebars solves the weak illumination problem

    This one happens to fit underneath my old Bell helmet okay, if I wear the helmet a little
    high in the front.

    Being able to put the light where you want from instant to instant overcomes the missing
    illumination feeling that LEDs give you, even running on low (it says 40h on its 3 AAA's).

    I'm able to run with one LED on the handlebars for a see-me and work the headlamp
    for complete comfort.

    Aside from that, it's the world's greatest invention, putting light wherever you walk
    when the power goes out in the house.

    The LLBean version has a continuously adjustable angle.

    Campmor has the same light with a click-stop thingy

    http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?partNumber=55943

    same price. I can't say which is better, but it's a nice technology. Campmor
    tends to have things in stock where LLBean is always backordered.

    The only problem that may exist is a legal issue. Here in Florida (may
    part anyway) it's illegal to have a light on your head. I don't
    understand it. But someone I know has been stopped and ticketed for
    using such a light.

    Ken
    --
    A bicycle does get you there and more.... And there is always the thin
    edge of danger to keep you alert and comfortably apprehensive. Dogs
    become dogs again and snap at your raincoat; potholes become personal.
    And getting there is all the fun. ~Bill Emerson, "On Bicycling,"
    Saturday Evening Post, 29 July 1967

    Homepage: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/

  3. Ken C. M. said:

    The only problem that may exist is a legal issue. Here in Florida (may
    part anyway) it's illegal to have a light on your head. I don't
    understand it. But someone I know has been stopped and ticketed for
    using such a light.


    During a power outage,my wife was wearing one of those. Every time I
    spoke or moved, she would instinctively track me, and blind me.
    Now imagine driving, walking, or cycling at night when the rider is
    wearing one of those.
    Instinctive scanning movements cause the light to aim all about, and
    centering often on an object of interest...a pedestrian, oncoming
    cyclist, cager, etc. At the very least it is annoying, and worse, can
    disrupt someone's night vision temporarily. The concept is great, but
    I see no solution for preventing the effect, after several hours with
    someone wearing on.

  4. "Grunty Grogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Ken C. M. said:

    The only problem that may exist is a legal issue. Here in Florida (may
    part anyway) it's illegal to have a light on your head. I don't
    understand it. But someone I know has been stopped and ticketed for
    using such a light.


    During a power outage,my wife was wearing one of those. Every time I
    spoke or moved, she would instinctively track me, and blind me.
    Now imagine driving, walking, or cycling at night when the rider is
    wearing one of those.
    Instinctive scanning movements cause the light to aim all about, and
    centering often on an object of interest...a pedestrian, oncoming
    cyclist, cager, etc. At the very least it is annoying, and worse, can
    disrupt someone's night vision temporarily. The concept is great, but
    I see no solution for preventing the effect, after several hours with
    someone wearing on.

    The negative aspect you mentioned is exactly why they're perfect for
    nighttime road cyclists. When you look right at the guy behind the wheel, he
    knows you're there.

  5. Gooserider said:


    The negative aspect you mentioned is exactly why they're perfect for
    nighttime road cyclists. When you look right at the guy behind the wheel, he
    knows you're there.

    It's also the reason they're [censored] for night-time cyclists. I've lost
    count of the number of times I've been blinded in the winter by some
    inconsiderate [censored] staring directly at my face with one of those.
    They're not usually using a little LED either, it's usually a 10 or 15
    watt halogen one.

    --
    Dane Buson - [email hidden]
    "Your food stamps will be stopped effective March 1992 because we received
    notice that you passed away. May God bless you. You may reapply if there is a
    change in your circumstances." -Department of Social Services, Greenville, SC

  6. Gooserider said:

    The negative aspect you mentioned is exactly why they're perfect for
    nighttime road cyclists. When you look right at the guy behind the wheel, he
    knows you're there.


    Oh, NO argument there. By the actions in my town of Moo-U-V drivers,
    it would only make me a better target. I gave up pavement, and just
    stick to trails. This is too bad, because I lose the store and Post
    Office runs on the bike, and smooth pavement is a luxury now. But I
    live in a suburb with very narrow country roads, sometimes with steep
    banking and no place to escape..not even the escape hatch of a
    sidewalk or shoulder, in some places. I fear it is better in my case
    to not provide such a tempting target. If you lightstruck one of
    them, well, they are already in a feral condition to begin with, and
    NOTHING is as important as getting their kids to soccer.
    Especially anything as trivial as my life.
    (Pardon the mood today, but I did have a narrow escape with one only
    an hour ago. The side mirror DID miss my elbow, so no real harm done.
    It was a glorious Spring day, and possibly the cagers are entering the
    Breeding Phase.)

  7. "Gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Grunty Grogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ken C. M. said:

    The only problem that may exist is a legal issue. Here in Florida (may
    part anyway) it's illegal to have a light on your head. I don't
    understand it. But someone I know has been stopped and ticketed for
    using such a light.


    During a power outage,my wife was wearing one of those. Every time I
    spoke or moved, she would instinctively track me, and blind me.
    Now imagine driving, walking, or cycling at night when the rider is
    wearing one of those.
    Instinctive scanning movements cause the light to aim all about, and
    centering often on an object of interest...a pedestrian, oncoming
    cyclist, cager, etc. At the very least it is annoying, and worse, can
    disrupt someone's night vision temporarily. The concept is great, but
    I see no solution for preventing the effect, after several hours with
    someone wearing on.

    The negative aspect you mentioned is exactly why they're perfect for
    nighttime road cyclists. When you look right at the guy behind the wheel,
    he knows you're there.

    It's the reason I don't use a head-mounted light. The essence of safe
    vehicular cycling is predictability, for the cyclist to fit into the
    expected flow and behavior of traffic. This includes fixed headlights that
    point in the direction of travel. The potential to confuse and disorient a
    driver by pointing a bright light at his face is, in my opinion, a greater
    threat to safety than any gain from the lights (vs an effective set of fixed
    head- and tail-lights).

    RichC

  8. Grunty Grogan said:

    During a power outage,my wife was wearing one of those. Every time I
    spoke or moved, she would instinctively track me, and blind me.
    Now imagine driving, walking, or cycling at night when the rider is
    wearing one of those.

    Well of course you don't let women use them.

    What you need for safe low-light riding is the ability to overcome
    high beams from oncoming traffic by watching the right edge of the
    road with your head beacon, far from blinding the other guy with it.

    In may case, it's a deer detector as well, picking up deer eyes off
    the dark road edge where the fixed beams don't catch them.

    You can see very well where the beam is going, and it's easy to
    manage.
    --
    Ron Hardin
    [email hidden]

    On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

  9. "Grunty Grogan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Gooserider said:

    The negative aspect you mentioned is exactly why they're perfect for
    nighttime road cyclists. When you look right at the guy behind the wheel,
    he
    knows you're there.


    Oh, NO argument there. By the actions in my town of Moo-U-V drivers,
    it would only make me a better target. I gave up pavement, and just
    stick to trails. This is too bad, because I lose the store and Post
    Office runs on the bike, and smooth pavement is a luxury now. But I
    live in a suburb with very narrow country roads, sometimes with steep
    banking and no place to escape..not even the escape hatch of a
    sidewalk or shoulder, in some places. I fear it is better in my case
    to not provide such a tempting target. If you lightstruck one of
    them, well, they are already in a feral condition to begin with, and
    NOTHING is as important as getting their kids to soccer.
    Especially anything as trivial as my life.
    (Pardon the mood today, but I did have a narrow escape with one only
    an hour ago. The side mirror DID miss my elbow, so no real harm done.
    It was a glorious Spring day, and possibly the cagers are entering the
    Breeding Phase.)

    Oh I've found having a light on my lid has been instrumental in getting
    motorists to notice I'm there much sooner than when I didn't have a light on
    my lid. Oncoming drivers dip their headlights *much* sooner, thus indicating
    they've seen me much sooner than previously - in my book this is increasing
    my safety on the roads. Indeed I've found another advantage to a lid-mounted
    light - if the oncoming traffic doesn't dip headlights, a swift direct look
    from me to where the driver of the offending vehicle is located soon makes
    them realise I'm there - again, increasing my safety. I don't always look
    directly where an oncoming driver is, but having the facility to do so has
    made my night-time cycling far safer IMO. It's not necessary to *stare* for
    a *long time* at an oncoming driver and dazzle him/her, but a swift look
    certainly gets their attention - which is a good thing. Indeed I've had
    motorists comment on how visible I am when cycling at night and how they
    view this as a good thing and have even said they wish other cyclists were
    as visible as I am.

    Cheers, helen s

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