LeBlanc--Armstrong Discredited

B. Lafferty said:

Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the banned
performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999. Leblanc said
there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude toward
him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a doping
product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his credibility as
a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins, said
Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for 12
minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would have
taken a different direction.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/9086.0.html

My lassitude has never been higher.

Steve

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B. Lafferty said:

Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the banned
performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999. Leblanc said
there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude toward
him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a doping
product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his credibility as
a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins, said
Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for 12
minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would have
taken a different direction.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/9086.0.html

Aren't there any other windmills on your own personal plains of La
Mancha to tilt at?

You should start planning for the future. Pick someone else to obsess
over - someone younger so you can get more mileage out of him.

R

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B. Lafferty said:

Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned
performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999. Leblanc said
there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
toward
him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a doping
product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his credibility
as
a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins, said
Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for
12
minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would have
taken a different direction.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/9086.0.html

Aren't there any other windmills on your own personal plains of La
Mancha to tilt at?

You should start planning for the future. Pick someone else to obsess
over - someone younger so you can get more mileage out of him.

Do you think Armstrong will announce on SNL that he plans to sue LeBlanc for
defamation?

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B. Lafferty said:

Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned
performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999. Leblanc said
there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
toward
him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a doping
product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his credibility
as
a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins, said
Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for
12
minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would have
taken a different direction.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/9086.0.html

Aren't there any other windmills on your own personal plains of La
Mancha to tilt at?

You should start planning for the future. Pick someone else to obsess
over - someone younger so you can get more mileage out of him.

R

Do you think Armstrong will show up at the 2006 Tour?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051027/sp_nm/cycling_tour_armstrong_dc;_ylt=Aql804NJ6q_jm4tz_SkGesgw.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

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Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999. Leblanc
said there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude toward
him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a doping
product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his credibility
as a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins, said
Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for
12 minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would
have taken a different direction.

Leblanc is really reaching the summit of hypocrtiticism. It is almost
certain that he has always been convinced that Armstrong was using epo and
other performance enhancing products. Nevertheless he always defended
Armstrong as much as possible, putting even his own reputation of integrity
at stake, because he knew quite well that it would be a blow to the Tour if
a mutiple winner would be exposed. But as soon as Armstrong had announced
that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen from Leblanc's
eyes.

Benjo

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Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999.
Leblanc said there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be
returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
toward him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a
doping product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his
credibility as a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins, said
Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for
12 minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would
have taken a different direction.

Leblanc is really reaching the summit of hypocrtiticism. It is almost
certain that he has always been convinced that Armstrong was using epo and
other performance enhancing products. Nevertheless he always defended
Armstrong as much as possible, putting even his own reputation of
integrity at stake, because he knew quite well that it would be a blow to
the Tour if a mutiple winner would be exposed. But as soon as Armstrong
had announced that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen
from Leblanc's eyes.

Benjo

So it appears we have matching sets of hypocrites:
LeBlanc-Prudhomme/Armstrong-Bruyneel

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Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999.
Leblanc said there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be
returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
toward him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a
doping product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his
credibility as a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins,

said

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Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk

for

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12 minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would
have taken a different direction.

Leblanc is really reaching the summit of hypocrtiticism. It is almost
certain that he has always been convinced that Armstrong was using epo

and

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other performance enhancing products. Nevertheless he always defended
Armstrong as much as possible, putting even his own reputation of
integrity at stake, because he knew quite well that it would be a blow

to

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the Tour if a mutiple winner would be exposed. But as soon as Armstrong
had announced that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen
from Leblanc's eyes.

Benjo

So it appears we have matching sets of hypocrites:
LeBlanc-Prudhomme/Armstrong-Bruyneel

No one says L'Equipe is discredited by printing unproven allegations ?
What's in it for them in the off-season ?
How many samples remain with which Lance can prove the lie and sue the [censored]
out of them ?

Laz

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> Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
> L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
> banned performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999.
> Leblanc said there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be
> returning.
>
> "Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
> toward him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a
> doping product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his
> credibility as a champion."
>
> Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins,

said

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> Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.
>
> "I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk

for

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> 12 minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I
> would
> have taken a different direction.

Leblanc is really reaching the summit of hypocrtiticism. It is almost
certain that he has always been convinced that Armstrong was using epo

and

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other performance enhancing products. Nevertheless he always defended
Armstrong as much as possible, putting even his own reputation of
integrity at stake, because he knew quite well that it would be a blow

to

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the Tour if a mutiple winner would be exposed. But as soon as Armstrong
had announced that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen
from Leblanc's eyes.

Benjo

So it appears we have matching sets of hypocrites:
LeBlanc-Prudhomme/Armstrong-Bruyneel

No one says L'Equipe is discredited by printing unproven allegations ?
What's in it for them in the off-season ?
How many samples remain with which Lance can prove the lie and sue the
[censored]
out of them ?

Laz

He can have the remaining B samples tested again any time he chooses.

B. Lafferty said:

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Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the banned
performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999. Leblanc said
there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be returning.

RicodJour said:

Aren't there any other windmills on your own personal plains of La
Mancha to tilt at?

Sounds like you're predicting the next tour champion is going to be
spanish.

B. Lafferty said:

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"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude toward
him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a doping
product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his credibility as
a champion."

Steven Bornfeld said:

My lassitude has never been higher.

Must be a panache overdose.

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Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999.
Leblanc said there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be
returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
toward him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a
doping product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his
credibility as a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins,
said Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at
Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for
12 minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would
have taken a different direction.

Leblanc is really reaching the summit of hypocrtiticism. It is almost
certain that he has always been convinced that Armstrong was using epo
and other performance enhancing products. Nevertheless he always defended
Armstrong as much as possible, putting even his own reputation of
integrity at stake, because he knew quite well that it would be a blow to
the Tour if a mutiple winner would be exposed. But as soon as Armstrong
had announced that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen
from Leblanc's eyes.

Benjo

So it appears we have matching sets of hypocrites:
LeBlanc-Prudhomme/Armstrong-Bruyneel

Unfortunately that's a typical situation for present-day professional
bicycle racing.

Benjo

Laz said:

How many samples remain with which Lance can prove the lie and sue the [censored]
out of them ?

I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.

Bob Schwartz

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Leblanc is really reaching the summit of hypocrtiticism.

I think you mean hypercriticism.

JF

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Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999.
Leblanc said there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be
returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
toward him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a
doping product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his
credibility as a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins, said
Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for
12 minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would
have taken a different direction.

Leblanc is really reaching the summit of hypocrtiticism. It is almost
certain that he has always been convinced that Armstrong was using epo and
other performance enhancing products. Nevertheless he always defended
Armstrong as much as possible, putting even his own reputation of
integrity at stake, because he knew quite well that it would be a blow to
the Tour if a mutiple winner would be exposed. But as soon as Armstrong
had announced that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen
from Leblanc's eyes.

Correction. I think you meant hypocrisy.

JF

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B. Lafferty said:

Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned
performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999. Leblanc said
there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
toward
him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a doping
product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his credibility
as
a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins, said
Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for
12
minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would have
taken a different direction.

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/9086.0.html

Aren't there any other windmills on your own personal plains of La
Mancha to tilt at?

You should start planning for the future. Pick someone else to obsess
over - someone younger so you can get more mileage out of him.

Wish he'd make up his mind...
http://tinyurl.com/bjn3p

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Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999.
Leblanc said there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be
returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
toward him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a
doping product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his
credibility as a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins, said
Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for
12 minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would
have taken a different direction.

Leblanc is really reaching the summit of hypocrtiticism. It is almost
certain that he has always been convinced that Armstrong was using epo and
other performance enhancing products. Nevertheless he always defended
Armstrong as much as possible, putting even his own reputation of
integrity at stake, because he knew quite well that it would be a blow to
the Tour if a mutiple winner would be exposed. But as soon as Armstrong
had announced that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen
from Leblanc's eyes.

Correction. I think you meant hypocrisy.

JF

Is there such a thing as hypercrisy?
Steve

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benjo maso said:

But as soon as Armstrong had announced
that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen from Leblanc's
eyes.

He must have been wearing a pair of Hincapie's sunglasses.

I agree.. there was a sudden and rather strange change in Thewhite,
which make me feel uneasy... I'm not totally sure how or why, but
something isn't quite right in all this.

Donald Munro said:

benjo maso said:

But as soon as Armstrong had announced
that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen from Leblanc's
eyes.

He must have been wearing a pair of Hincapie's sunglasses.

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Leblanc said Armstrong was discredited by allegations printed in the
L'Equipe sports newspaper on Aug. 23, which claimed that he used the
banned performance enhancer EPO during his first Tour win in 1999.
Leblanc said there was relief in the sport that Armstrong will not be
returning.

"Without doubt ... what we have learned has increased the lassitude
toward him," Leblanc said. "He was not irreproachable in '99. EPO is a
doping product. So this tempers and dilutes his performances and his
credibility as a champion."

Johan Bruyneel, Armstrong's team director on each of his seven wins,
said Thursday's Tour presentation seemed to take a cheap shot at
Armstrong.

"I felt targeted during the presentation," Bruyneel said. "They talk for
12 minutes about ethics rather than presenting the race itself. I would
have taken a different direction.

Leblanc is really reaching the summit of hypocrtiticism. It is almost
certain that he has always been convinced that Armstrong was using epo
and other performance enhancing products. Nevertheless he always defended
Armstrong as much as possible, putting even his own reputation of
integrity at stake, because he knew quite well that it would be a blow to
the Tour if a mutiple winner would be exposed. But as soon as Armstrong
had announced that he retired, suddenly the scales seemd to have fallen
from Leblanc's eyes.

Correction. I think you meant hypocrisy.

Yes, you're right.

Benjo