Latest nike research.

I saw that study, very credible.

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it would
be big news on here. Or is it just because I've been
saying this for years?

What do you think the reason is? The design of the shoe or
the mentality of the people who wear them?

Nike's brandname will get them a greater share of people who
haven't got a clue what they're doing.

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it would
be big news on here. Or is it just because I've been
saying this for years?

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it would
be big news on here. Or is it just because I've been
saying this for years?

Feel free to point us to this study. I'm just dying to see
the metrics.

-DF

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it would
be big news on here. Or is it just because I've been
saying this for years?

As for me Nike rocks! I love their shoes. I tried Ascics and
found them to pale in comparison, they were ok but nowhere
near as good. My Nike Zoom Elite shoes are lightweight,
responsive and feel great to run in. My Nike Pegasus are
such a smooth shoe. They too are responsive and comfortable
for my long runs. There isn't a pr I haven't run in my Nike
Air Streaks. That is a shoe that is just plain fast.

I'll post when I get a Nike shoe related injury.

Studies make it easy to find what one wants to find.

Andy

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it would
be big news on here.

This above statistic, if true, make perfect sense. The
statistic may be more about the people buying the shoes than
the shoes themselves.

Nike does a lot of advertising to the general public (who
are mostly non-runners). Non-runners are more likely to
become injured when buying a shoe, maybe for fashion
reasons, and then going out without training and pretending
to be the athletes and models in the advertisements. Thus
the statistic on injury could be completely true even if
Nike shoes were equal or better to the other brands in
terms of ankle and knee health when models appropriate for
their intended use are choosen by knowledgeable runners.
That's because most of the injuries may be to people who
don't know what they're doing, but buy Nike shoes more
often than other brands because of the relative sizes of
their advertising budgets.

See the book "How to Lie with Statistics" for related stuff.

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What do you think the reason is? The design of the shoe or
the mentality of the people who wear them?

Interesting question, I'm not sure, but probably a bit of
both. I guess people who'd be fooled by hype and advertising
blitz's, as well as "how they look" (some jerk commented on
how my running shoes, my 'mudders', would look to others
with silicon on them? Like I give a [censored] how I look when i'm
up to my knees in mud) are probably more concerned with the
name than the design or quality of the shoe. I admit they
make a few decent shoes, but even those are far overpriced
compared to other, more durable brands, and simply are not a
quality made shoe. Then of course there are those born with
the golden spoon, who get a boner by spending more money
than they need to.

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Nike's brandname will get them a greater share of people
who haven't got a clue what they're doing.

Absolutely true! I'm sure about 98% of nike running shoes
sold, never get more than a quick jog to the fridge for some
chilled wine.

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it
would be big news on here. Or is it just because I've
been saying this for years?

You're nothing but a troll. Everytime this subject comes up
you post this [censored]. Considering the posts run 20 saying they
suck, to your 1, I'd say you are just a wee troll, or just
an ignorant dipshit.

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it
would be big news on here. Or is it just because I've
been saying this for years?

As for me Nike rocks! I love their shoes. I tried Ascics
and found them to pale in comparison, they were ok but
nowhere near as good. My Nike Zoom Elite shoes are
lightweight, responsive and feel great to run in. My Nike
Pegasus are such a smooth shoe. They too are responsive
and comfortable for my long runs. There isn't a pr I
haven't run in my Nike Air Streaks. That is a shoe that is
just plain fast.

I'll post when I get a Nike shoe related injury.

Studies make it easy to find what one wants to find.

Andy

P.S. Your idiotic comment about Asics (one of the most
reputable, well made, and highly thought-of brands on
the market today)really shows you for the troll you
are. Like we said before, there's a sucker born every
minute, you're it.

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it
would be big news on here. Or is it just because I've
been saying this for years?

As for me Nike rocks! I love their shoes. I tried Ascics
and found them to pale in comparison, they were ok but
nowhere near as good. My Nike Zoom Elite shoes are
lightweight, responsive and feel great to run in. My Nike
Pegasus are such a smooth shoe. They too are responsive
and comfortable for my long runs. There isn't a pr I
haven't run in my Nike Air Streaks. That is a shoe that is
just plain fast.

I'll post when I get a Nike shoe related injury.

Studies make it easy to find what one wants to find.

Andy

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it
would be big news on here. Or is it just because I've
been saying this for years?

As for me Nike rocks! I love their shoes. I tried Ascics
and found them to pale in comparison, they were ok but
nowhere near as good. My Nike Zoom Elite shoes are
lightweight, responsive and feel great to run in. My Nike
Pegasus are such a smooth shoe. They too are responsive
and comfortable for my long runs. There isn't a pr I
haven't run in my Nike Air Streaks. That is a shoe that is
just plain fast.

I haven't had the chance to run in Zoom Elite (too
expensive) but I thought the Pegasus were very good shoes,
and I have worn out two pairs of Air Streaks (I use them for
fast training as well as racing). Bill needs to
differentiate between vanilla Nike and the Bowerman range,
which are just as good as his beloved Asics (I just bought a
pair of Asics DS which are pretty damn good).

Edward
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just where is this link to the study that says that nike users have a 70%
chance of suffering ankle and knee injuries. now i am not nor have i ever
been a nike user. however i have friends who are very serious competitive
runners as well as being loyal to the brand since it's inception. yet none
of my friends have suffered from injuries to any greater extent from those
who have not been nike wearers. i do have to question the motives behind
this so called study. granted nike does make some really crappy shoes as
does every other maker of running shoes. in my opinion they are really no
better nor no worse than the other brands that are on the market today.
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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it
would be big news on here. Or is it just because I've
been saying this for years?

As for me Nike rocks! I love their shoes. I tried Ascics
and found them to pale in comparison, they were ok but
nowhere near as good. My Nike Zoom Elite shoes are
lightweight, responsive and feel great to run in. My
Nike Pegasus are such a smooth shoe. They too are
responsive and comfortable for my long runs. There isn't
a pr I haven't run in my Nike Air Streaks. That is a
shoe that is just plain fast.

I haven't had the chance to run in Zoom Elite (too
expensive) but I thought the Pegasus were very good shoes,
and I have worn out two pairs of Air Streaks (I use them
for fast training as well as racing). Bill needs to
differentiate between vanilla Nike and the Bowerman range,
which are just as good as his beloved Asics (I just bought
a pair of Asics DS which are pretty damn good).

Edward
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Edward said:

I haven't had the chance to run in Zoom Elite (too
expensive) but I

You can get these discounted at rrs now.

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it
would be big news on here. Or is it just because I've
been saying this for years?

As for me Nike rocks! I love their shoes. I tried Ascics
and found them to pale in comparison, they were ok but
nowhere near as good. My Nike Zoom Elite shoes are
lightweight, responsive and feel great to run in. My
Nike Pegasus are such a smooth shoe. They too are
responsive and comfortable for my long runs. There isn't
a pr I haven't run in my Nike Air Streaks. That is a
shoe that is just plain fast.

I haven't had the chance to run in Zoom Elite (too
expensive) but I thought the Pegasus were very good shoes,
and I have worn out two pairs of Air Streaks (I use them
for fast training as well as racing).

I think the Air Streaks are the fastest shoes I've ever
worn. I just wore out my first pair and am working on the
second. I should be due for a new pair soon.

Andy

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Bill needs to differentiate between vanilla Nike and the
Bowerman range, which are just as good as his beloved
Asics (I just bought a pair of Asics DS which are pretty
damn good).

Edward
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You're nothing but a troll. Everytime this subject comes
up you post this [censored]. Considering the posts run 20 saying
they suck, to your 1, I'd say you are just a wee troll, or
just an ignorant dipshit.

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No discussion on the latest study that says that nike
wearers are 70% more likely to suffer ankle and knee
injuries, than wearers of other brands? I thought it
would be big news on here. Or is it just because I've
been saying this for years?

As for me Nike rocks! I love their shoes. I tried Ascics
and found them to pale in comparison, they were ok but
nowhere near as good. My Nike Zoom Elite shoes are
lightweight, responsive and feel great to run in. My
Nike Pegasus are such a smooth shoe. They too are
responsive and comfortable for my long runs. There isn't
a pr I haven't run in my Nike Air Streaks. That is a
shoe that is just plain fast.

I'll post when I get a Nike shoe related injury.

Studies make it easy to find what one wants to find.

Andy

When a troll answers a troll, it there anything BUT noise?

Philosophy on the Run.

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I haven't had the chance to run in Zoom Elite (too
expensive)

They ALL are too expensive. You are wasting money on nikes.
You can get more shoe for a 1/3 less money. P.T. Barnum knew
your birthday.

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thought the Pegasus were very good shoes, and I have
worn out two pairs of Air Streaks (I use them for fast
training as well as racing).

I think the Air Streaks are the fastest shoes I've ever
worn. I just wore out my first pair and am working on the
second. I should be due for a new pair soon.

Andy

So you lil wuussies, what kind of mileage do you put in per
week? (I feel squeals of laughter coming on)

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Edward said:

I haven't had the chance to run in Zoom Elite (too
expensive) but I

You can get these discounted at rrs now.

Cheers,

Thanks for the pointer, but I'm from the UK and don't know
rrs. The best that Google could do was rrs.com, which didn't
seem to fit the bill. Can you post a URL, please?

Ta

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I just wore out my first pair and am working on the
second.

Hmm, you sure aren't a very good liar, are you? In one post
you talk about how long they last you, then in the next you
tell us you buy 2 or 3 pairs a year.

I agree the Nike Streaks are awesome shoes. They are quite
light, fast and smooth with surprising cushioning and
support for such a light racing flat. Although I only get
about 200 miles out of them and am on my 3rd pair.

All this Nike bashing is so juvenile and dumb. I compare it
to people hating the Lakers or Yankees. Does anyone hate
Brooks shoes or the Bengals or Clippers?

I've had Nikes that sucked and Nikes that were awesome.
Had the same experience with Adidas and Asics. You just
have to find what works for you and purchase a bunch of
them or hope the replacement model won't change too much
next year. Adidas just [censored] me off "updating" the
Rotterdam to the Rotterdam II. Changing a nice smooth,
fairly lightweight trainer into a shoe with horrible
transistion between heel and toe. (But I can't wait to get
a pair of their new Adios).

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I think the Air Streaks are the fastest shoes I've ever
worn. I just wore out my first pair and am working on the
second. I should be due for a new pair soon.

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When a troll answers a troll, it there anything BUT noise?

I couldn't hear anything. Maybe they cancel eachother out.

Phil M.

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Edward said:

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Edward said:

I haven't had the chance to run in Zoom Elite (too
expensive) but I

You can get these discounted at rrs now.

Cheers,

Thanks for the pointer, but I'm from the UK and don't know
rrs. The best that Google could do was rrs.com, which
didn't seem to fit the bill. Can you post a URL, please?

www.roadrunnersports.com

They do ship internationally though it could be expensive.

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