And it's NOT cycling! So I guess these news are kind of good news.
"I know of no other drug bust that is larger than this involving the number of athletes involved," anti-doping official Terry Madden, director of the U.S Anti-Doping Agency, told The Associated Press.
"What we have uncovered appears to be intentional doping of the worst sort," Madden said during a telephone news conference. He called the case "a conspiracy involving chemists, coaches and certain athletes to defraud their competitors, and the American and world public who pay to attend sporting events." espn.go.com1639608.htmlOpen ↗
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> And it's NOT cycling!
NOT...yet
What do you mean? Armstrong? We can only hope.......and pray
Dumbass -
It doesn't seem to be very likely.
The sports for which steroids are very effective are the ones mentioned in the article - events which success hinges upon explosive power output.
For an endurace sport like road cycling, the state-of-the-art programs
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with blood and oxygen carrying capacity.
Steroids are different from blood-doping. You cyclists are a decade behind powerlifters and bodybuilders. But you are catching up. 🙂
THG is a designer steroid, and most steroids make a man somewhat more like a woman, and vice versa. It's far more complicated than that.
Also, I've communicated with Victor in the past, and saying that the athlete in question was a client of his is like saying that the athlete also filed his taxes with the IRS, or that Nike is implicated through the acts of Tiger Woods.
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"Oscar Mannheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... > > > And it's NOT cycling! > > > > NOT...yet > > What do you mean? Armstrong? We can only hope.......and pray
Dumbass -
It doesn't seem to be very likely.
The sports for which steroids are very effective are the ones
mentioned
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the article - events which success hinges upon explosive power output.
For an endurace sport like road cycling, the state-of-the-art programs
deal
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with blood and oxygen carrying capacity.
Steroids are different from blood-doping. You cyclists are a decade
behind
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powerlifters and bodybuilders. But you are catching up. 🙂
Dumbass -
That is the point.
Steroids are useful in endurance sports, but not nearly as much as the
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products.
I think you are generally right, but blood products have lower detectability, which is why certain sports favor them. At a certain level it gets more political that physiological.
<"I visit BALCO every three to six months. They check my blood to make sure my levels are where they should be. Maybe I need to eat more broccoli than I normally do. Maybe my zinc and magnesium intakes need to increase," Bonds said in the magazine. "Victor will call me to make sure I'm taking my supplements, and my trainer Greg will sit near my locker and stare at me if I don't begin working out right away. I have these guys pushing me.">
<"I visit BALCO every three to six months. They check my blood to make sure my levels are where they should be. Maybe I need to eat more broccoli than I normally do. Maybe my zinc and magnesium intakes need to increase," Bonds said in the magazine. "Victor will call me to make sure I'm taking my supplements, and my trainer Greg will sit near my locker and stare at me if I don't begin working out right away. I have these guys pushing me.">
IMHO, inferior to the dog defense.
Will they leave him in the lineup? --TP
Regarding Bonds, will they put an asterisk next to the single season HR record?
And it's NOT cycling! So I guess these news are kind of good news.
I could remember discussion of designer steroids here from a long time back. I couldn't google up the poster I was thinking of, but I did turn up this:
It dates from 1996 and those of us that remember Oliver Starr's contributions to this forum know that he was not one to pull stuff like this out of a nether orifice.
Note that this approach to doping is similar to the one employed by Tammy Thomas in that both seek to avoid detection through the use of a substance that the testers are not looking for.
My conclusion is that the use of designer steroids is much older news than many realize and that it is highly unlikely that the sports touched by this particular bust accurately represent the extent of the problem.
