Lance Will Have Problems In July

And Tyler won this race last year, too. Tyler's got to get
through a tour without crashing.

Richard Longwood said:

Stage 5 - May 2: Lausanne-Lausanne ITT, 20 km

Results 1 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems
26.29 2 Bradley McGee (Aus) FDJeux.com 0.35 3 Ronny Scholz
(Ger) Gerolsteiner 0.53 4 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 0.57 5
Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Vini Caldirola-Nobili Rubinetterrie
1.00 6 Rubens Bertogliati (Swi) Saunier Duval-Prodir 7
Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 8 Marco Pinotti (Ita) Lampre
9 Fabian Jeker (Swi) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.13 10 Jörg
Jaksche (Ger) Team CSC 11 Yuriy Krivtsov (Ukr) Ag2r-
Prevoyance 1.21 12 Alexandre Moos (Swi) Phonak Hearing
Systems 1.22

Final general classification

1 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 2 Fabian
Jeker (Swi) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.42 3 Leonardo Piepoli
(Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 2.17 4 Tadej Valjavec (Slo)
Phonak Hearing Systems 2.18 ... 7 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team
CSC 3.30 8 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto 9
Bradley McGee (Aus) FDJeux.com

Blast, Sod and Balls. :-( Please indicate in the subject
when posts contain results. If I'd have known I certainly
wouldn't have read your post til after I'd watched the
recorded Time Trial

Thanks Jan

And so does Lance.

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And Tyler won this race last year, too. Tyler's got to get
through a tour without crashing.

Richard Longwood said:

Stage 5 - May 2: Lausanne-Lausanne ITT, 20 km

Results 1 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems
26.29 2 Bradley McGee (Aus) FDJeux.com 0.35 3 Ronny
Scholz (Ger) Gerolsteiner 0.53 4 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team
CSC 0.57 5 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Vini Caldirola-Nobili
Rubinetterrie 1.00 6 Rubens Bertogliati (Swi) Saunier
Duval-Prodir 7 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 8 Marco
Pinotti (Ita) Lampre 9 Fabian Jeker (Swi) Saunier Duval-
Prodir 1.13 10 Jörg Jaksche (Ger) Team CSC 11 Yuriy
Krivtsov (Ukr) Ag2r-Prevoyance 1.21 12 Alexandre Moos
(Swi) Phonak Hearing Systems 1.22

Final general classification

1 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 2 Fabian
Jeker (Swi) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.42 3 Leonardo Piepoli
(Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 2.17 4 Tadej Valjavec (Slo)
Phonak Hearing Systems 2.18 ... 7 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team
CSC 3.30 8 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto
9 Bradley McGee (Aus) FDJeux.com

Richard Adams said:

And Tyler won this race last year, too. Tyler's got to get
through a tour without crashing.

And the heavily cobbled stage at the beginning of the Tour
is not going to help him.

Quoted message said:

Richard Longwood said:

Stage 5 - May 2: Lausanne-Lausanne ITT, 20 km

Results 1 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems
26.29 2 Bradley McGee (Aus) FDJeux.com 0.35 3 Ronny
Scholz (Ger) Gerolsteiner 0.53 4 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team
CSC 0.57 5 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Vini Caldirola-Nobili
Rubinetterrie 1.00 6 Rubens Bertogliati (Swi) Saunier Duval-
Prodir 7 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 8 Marco Pinotti
(Ita) Lampre 9 Fabian Jeker (Swi) Saunier Duval-Prodir
1.13 10 Jörg Jaksche (Ger) Team CSC 11 Yuriy Krivtsov
(Ukr) Ag2r-Prevoyance 1.21 12 Alexandre Moos (Swi) Phonak
Hearing Systems 1.22

Final general classification

1 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 2 Fabian
Jeker (Swi) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.42 3 Leonardo Piepoli
(Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 2.17 4 Tadej Valjavec (Slo)
Phonak Hearing Systems 2.18 ... 7 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team
CSC 3.30 8 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto
9 Bradley McGee (Aus) FDJeux.com

Jan said:

Please indicate in the subject when posts contain results.
If I'd have known I certainly wouldn't have read your post
til after I'd watched the recorded Time Trial

I don't quite understand why someone would record a TT for
later viewing and blind the results in the meantime.

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Jan said:

Please indicate in the subject when posts contain
results. If I'd have known I certainly wouldn't have
read your post til after I'd watched the recorded
Time Trial

I don't quite understand why someone would record a TT for
later viewing and blind the results in the meantime.

Because I was unable to watch it live on TV. !! Makes
perfect sense to me... don't you ever tape programmes to
watch later?

.Jan

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Jan said:

Please indicate in the subject when posts contain
results. If I'd have known I certainly wouldn't have
read your post til after I'd watched the recorded
Time Trial

I don't quite understand why someone would record a TT for
later viewing and blind the results in the meantime.

Because I was unable to watch it live on TV. !! Makes
perfect sense to me... don't any of you ever tape programmes
to watch later?

.Jan

Jan said:

"Robert Chung" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I don't quite understand why someone would record a TT
for later viewing and blind the results in the meantime.

Because I was unable to watch it live on TV. !! Makes
perfect sense to me... don't you ever tape programmes to
watch later?

Road stages, yes, because I'm interested in the tactics,
strategy, attacks, counters, collusion, and back-stabbing
(especially the latter). Rarely TTs, but perhaps I'm
missing something. Since I'm interested in the tactics,
strategy, etc., I don't particularly worry if I learn the
result ahead of time.

And now Tyler thinks he can win:

"My objective remains the Tour de France, I'll target a podium place but I also believe that I can win. I had to fight for victory here for Phonak."

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Jan said:

"Robert Chung" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I don't quite understand why someone would record a TT
for later viewing and blind the results in the
meantime.

Because I was unable to watch it live on TV. !! Makes
perfect sense to me... don't you ever tape programmes to
watch later?

Road stages, yes, because I'm interested in the tactics,
strategy, attacks, counters, collusion, and back-stabbing
(especially the latter).

Agreed

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Rarely TTs, but perhaps I'm missing something. Since I'm
interested in the tactics, strategy, etc., I don't
particularly worry if I learn the result ahead of time.

We like shouting at the TV set and the commentator (
usually DD). Difficult if not impossible if you already
know the result.

Jan

Jan

Jan said:

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berlin.de...

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Jan said:

Please indicate in the subject when posts contain
results. If I'd have known I certainly wouldn't have
read your post til after I'd watched the recorded Time
Trial

I don't quite understand why someone would record a TT
for later viewing and blind the results in the meantime.

Because I was unable to watch it live on TV. !! Makes
perfect sense to me... don't any of you ever tape
programmes to watch later?

Yep, but if it's a cycling race and I don't want to know the
result I'd never come on r.b.r before watching it given the
normal etiquette of posting the podium in the header...

Regards! Stephen

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Jan said:

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Jan wrote:

> Please indicate in the subject when posts contain
> results. If I'd have known I certainly wouldn't have
> read your post til after

I'd

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> watched the recorded Time Trial

I don't quite understand why someone would record a TT
for later

viewing

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and blind the results in the meantime.

Because I was unable to watch it live on TV. !! Makes
perfect sense to me... don't any of you ever tape
programmes to

watch

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later?

Yep, but if it's a cycling race and I don't want to know
the result I'd never come on r.b.r before watching it
given the normal etiquette of posting the podium in the
header...

Regards! Stephen

um??? Have you actually read the subject header to
this post????

Jan

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um??? Have you actually read the subject header to this
post????

It is common for people in rbr to post the winners, and
frequently the whole podium, in the header. In that case,
your whole weekend would have been ruined anyway.

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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um??? Have you actually read the subject header to this
post????

It is common for people in rbr to post the winners, and
frequently the

whole

Quoted message said:

podium, in the header. In that case, your whole weekend
would have been ruined anyway.

No it only ruined Sunday!!LOL The heading was actually
"Lance will have problems in July" , There was no mention of
the Tour of Romandy. If there had of been, I wouldn't have
opened the post But thats by the by now. Looking ahead,
Would it be to much to ask for people not to actually post
the results in the headings. Other NGs I read ( not cycling)
will usually say something along the lines of "result of
??????? (inc.spoiler)" then type the result further down the
page, so one can't accidently read
it.iyswim

Jan

On 05/02/2004 03:29 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Jan" <[email hidden]>

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"Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

um??? Have you actually read the subject header to this
post????

It is common for people in rbr to post the winners, and
frequently the

whole

Quoted message said:

podium, in the header. In that case, your whole weekend
would have been ruined anyway.

No it only ruined Sunday!!LOL The heading was actually
"Lance will have problems in July" , There was no mention
of the Tour of Romandy. If there had of been, I wouldn't
have opened the post But thats by the by now. Looking
ahead, Would it be to much to ask for people not to
actually post the results in the headings. Other NGs I
read ( not cycling) will usually say something along the
lines of "result of ??????? (inc.spoiler)" then type the
result further down the page, so one can't accidently read
it.iyswim

RBR is NOT "other newsgroups" ...

The standard practice in this group is to post the entire
podium in the Subject field.

If you don't want to see results of a particular race in
this newsgroup, then don't READ this newsgroup until after
you've watched your tape of the race in question.

Learn it. Live it. Love it.

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...
>
>
> um??? Have you actually read the subject header to
> this post????
>

It is common for people in rbr to post the winners, and
frequently the

whole

Quoted message said:

podium, in the header. In that case, your whole weekend
would have been ruined anyway.

No it only ruined Sunday!!LOL The heading was actually
"Lance will have problems in July" , There was

no

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mention of the Tour of Romandy. If there had of been, I
wouldn't have

opened

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the post But thats by the by now. Looking ahead, Would
it be to much to ask for people not to actually

post

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the results in the headings. Other NGs I read ( not
cycling) will usually say something along the

lines

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of "result of ??????? (inc.spoiler)" then type the
result further down the page, so one can't
accidently read
it.iyswim

RBR is NOT "other newsgroups" ...

The standard practice in this group is to post the entire
podium in the Subject field.

Just out of curiosity ......Why?????? Is it an American sort
of custom- for want of a better word?? Jan

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On 05/02/2004 03:29 PM, in article [email hidden]-

berlin.de said:

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...
>
>
> um??? Have you actually read the subject header to
> this post????
>

It is common for people in rbr to post the winners, and
frequently the

whole

Quoted message said:

podium, in the header. In that case, your whole weekend
would have been ruined anyway.

No it only ruined Sunday!!LOL The heading was actually
"Lance will have problems in July" , There was

no

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mention of the Tour of Romandy. If there had of been, I
wouldn't have

opened

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the post But thats by the by now. Looking ahead, Would
it be to much to ask for people not to actually

post

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the results in the headings. Other NGs I read ( not
cycling) will usually say something along the

lines

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of "result of ??????? (inc.spoiler)" then type the
result further down the page, so one can't
accidently read
it.iyswim

RBR is NOT "other newsgroups" ...

The standard practice in this group is to post the entire
podium in the Subject field.

Just out of curiosity ......Why?????? Is it an American sort
of custom- for want of a better word?? Jan

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The standard practice in this group is to post the
entire podium in the Subject field.

Just out of curiosity ......Why?????? Is it an American
sort of custom-

for

Quoted message said:

want of a better word?? Jan

What makes you think it is just Americans who do it?

Carl Sundquist said:

What makes you think it is just Americans who do it?

Yes.