Lance - Treks sold

Callistus Valerius said:

Does anyone know how many Treks Lance sold during his tdf reign? A
ballpark figure would be sufficient.

Zero. He doesn't work in a bike shop.

Zero, because for every nerd that buys a Trek because "Lance rides
one", there is a more rational person avoiding buying into the Lance
hype, and will carefully avoid buying anything at all with the Trek
name on it.

Trek is actually realizing that the Lance mania they helped create is
hurting their bike sales; they're now heavily emphasizing their
mountain/freeride lineup, and introducing several new dirt model lines.
Trek may have sold a bunch of high-end roadie bikes because of Lance,
but high-end roadie bikes are a tiny portion of the overall bicycle
market. Someone looking at a Session is very unlikely to be swayed by
some spandex-wearing geek.

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Zero, because for every nerd that buys a Trek because "Lance rides
one", there is a more rational person avoiding buying into the Lance
hype, and will carefully avoid buying anything at all with the Trek
name on it.

Trek is actually realizing that the Lance mania they helped create is
hurting their bike sales; they're now heavily emphasizing their
mountain/freeride lineup, and introducing several new dirt model lines.
Trek may have sold a bunch of high-end roadie bikes because of Lance,
but high-end roadie bikes are a tiny portion of the overall bicycle
market. Someone looking at a Session is very unlikely to be swayed by
some spandex-wearing geek.

As I understand it, Trek stayed away from Interbike this year. On the other
hand, Specialized had a major presence at the show in the Mtb market with
many demo bikes.

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Zero, because for every nerd that buys a Trek because "Lance rides
one", there is a more rational person avoiding buying into the Lance
hype, and will carefully avoid buying anything at all with the Trek
name on it.

Trek is actually realizing that the Lance mania they helped create is
hurting their bike sales; they're now heavily emphasizing their
mountain/freeride lineup, and introducing several new dirt model lines.
Trek may have sold a bunch of high-end roadie bikes because of Lance,
but high-end roadie bikes are a tiny portion of the overall bicycle
market. Someone looking at a Session is very unlikely to be swayed by
some spandex-wearing geek.

I really think the people Trek sold Lance replica [censored] to were the
masters fatties newbs with too much money. If i was actually light
enough and good enough to be looking at a carbon frame I'd be looking
at a Parlee. I'm incredibly impressed with these from having a really
good inspection of a couple of frames, great reviews from a
mechanic/shop owner I have incredible faith in, and reports from people
who can actually push these frames. Trek mass production stuff would be
way down the list unless the cost was cut by about 1/3.
With all the incidents I get to see I just can't see racing a massive
$$$ top end frame unless you are getting them as sponsorship, have WAY
too much cash, or are a pro who is close enough to the top that it
makes a difference as to your podium spot.
The reality is that there are plenty of mid range frame and fork sets
that are going to be more than good enough for most of the racers and a
whole lot easier on the pocketbook to replace.
I'm dreaming of the day I can get Richie to build me a frame to ride
for decades, but when that day comes I'm sure as hell not going to
wrech it in a parking lot crit.
I've got to give Trek some props on warranty stuff a couple of years
though. They really took care of us with no hassles at all and gave a
sweet deal on a frame upgrade in the process.
I'd be willing to bet most of their profit is in the mid range MTB and
Road stuff, not the really high end stuff.
I'm guessing but I'm sure that Mike could fill tell us what's really
going on.
Bill C

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

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I really think
I'm incredibly impressed
a really good inspection
great reviews
a mechanic/shop owner I have incredible faith in,
I'm dreaming
They really took care of us with
Bill C

You sound awfully excited, Bill. I think you better settle down.

Rather than masters fatty newbs, I'd say it's the upscale recreational rider
set that will never honestly race that is picking up those Treks. At least
that's what I see in this really incredibly awesome gorgeous Pacific
Northwest Heather-country.

JF

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Jim Flom said:

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

Quoted message said:

I really think
I'm incredibly impressed
a really good inspection
great reviews
a mechanic/shop owner I have incredible faith in,
I'm dreaming
They really took care of us with
Bill C

You sound awfully excited, Bill. I think you better settle down.

Rather than masters fatty newbs, I'd say it's the upscale recreational rider
set that will never honestly race that is picking up those Treks. At least
that's what I see in this really incredibly awesome gorgeous Pacific
Northwest Heather-country.

JF

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Jim you ever seen "Home Improvement"? I'm like Tim when I find a
really good mechanic who's honest too. Luckily I have one each for the
cars and bikes now and am happier than hell about it. Now if I could
find a good, reliable elctrician and plumber to use I'd be in heaven.
Bill C

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Jim you ever seen "Home Improvement"? I'm like Tim when I find a
really good mechanic who's honest too. Luckily I have one each for the
cars and bikes now and am happier than hell about it. Now if I could
find a good, reliable elctrician and plumber to use I'd be in heaven.

I love that show. When I lived in Pennsylvania I had the same mechanic for
over twenty years. He only works on Volkswagens and Hondas. I would buy
Hondas on purpose just so I could stay with them. Bike shop, similar thing.
I just don't have a Peter Chisholm- or Sheldon Brown-type nearby. In fact,
I ended up sending Peter a Campy shifter after I moved to BC.

JF