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  1. Well, I just read in my latest issue of Bicycling that Lance picks Jan
    to win the 06 Tour. FWIW ?
    Rick in Tennessee

  2. Well your first mistake was to read Bicycling, because they're always
    about 6 months behind on everything. Lance picked Jan months ago and
    it was likely to psyche him out. Jan won't win. My bet is Basso.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Well your first mistake was to read Bicycling, because they're always
    about 6 months behind on everything. Lance picked Jan months ago and
    it was likely to psyche him out. Jan won't win. My bet is Basso.

    Well, I don't find it to be a mistake to read Bicycling.Then again,
    could you please tell me your source for the Lance prediction? (FWIW)

  4. Quoted message said:

    Well your first mistake was to read Bicycling, because they're always
    about 6 months behind on everything. Lance picked Jan months ago and
    it was likely to psyche him out. Jan won't win. My bet is Basso.

    Basso has finished on the podium twice because he's the only guy who's
    shown the ability to follow Armstrong during his explosive
    accelerations while climbing, then not lose too much time while time
    trialing.

    It's yet to be seen whether he can drop Ullrich himself without
    Armstrong's wheel to follow. I'm also not convinced that CSC will be
    able to control the peloton well enough to cope with Vinokourov. I
    think we may well see Bass and CSC burn themselves out trying to
    control his attacks. Frankly, I think Vino will prove troublesome for
    Ullrich as well.

    The race will be so wide open that we're just as likely to see Landis
    or maybe even Leipheimer on the top step as we are to see Basso there.
    Smart money's still on Ullrich.

    Fred

  5. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Well your first mistake was to read Bicycling, because they're always
    about 6 months behind on everything. Lance picked Jan months ago and
    it was likely to psyche him out. Jan won't win. My bet is Basso.

    Basso has finished on the podium twice because he's the only guy who's
    shown the ability to follow Armstrong during his explosive
    accelerations while climbing, then not lose too much time while time
    trialing.

    It's yet to be seen whether he can drop Ullrich himself without
    Armstrong's wheel to follow. I'm also not convinced that CSC will be
    able to control the peloton well enough to cope with Vinokourov.

    I do not think Vinokourov needs to be coped with. He is a
    master of the grand gesture but that does not win grand
    tours. Headstrong. He will make trouble for teams who take
    the bait. If _I_ were DS I would let other teams worry
    about him.

    Quoted message said:

    I
    think we may well see Bass and CSC burn themselves out trying to
    control his attacks. Frankly, I think Vino will prove troublesome for
    Ullrich as well.

    The race will be so wide open that we're just as likely to see Landis
    or maybe even Leipheimer on the top step as we are to see Basso there.
    Smart money's still on Ullrich.

    --
    Michael Press

  6. Michael Press said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Basso has finished on the podium twice because he's the only guy who's
    shown the ability to follow Armstrong during his explosive
    accelerations while climbing, then not lose too much time while time
    trialing.

    It's yet to be seen whether he can drop Ullrich himself without
    Armstrong's wheel to follow. I'm also not convinced that CSC will be
    able to control the peloton well enough to cope with Vinokourov.

    I do not think Vinokourov needs to be coped with. He is a
    master of the grand gesture but that does not win grand
    tours. Headstrong. He will make trouble for teams who take
    the bait. If _I_ were DS I would let other teams worry
    about him.

    --
    Michael Press

    Hey, it almost worked for Chiappucci. Vinokourov has FAR more
    class/talent than 'Capuccino' ever did. If they give him even half the
    10 minute lead that Chiappucci got in '90, it's all over but the crying.

  7. Michael Press said:

    I do not think Vinokourov needs to be coped with. He is a
    master of the grand gesture but that does not win grand
    tours. Headstrong. He will make trouble for teams who take
    the bait. If _I_ were DS I would let other teams worry
    about him.

    Besides, Ullrich and Co are experienced in attacking and controlling
    Vino, especially at the Tour.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  8. Curtis L. Russell said:

    Besides, Ullrich and Co are experienced in attacking and controlling
    Vino, especially at the Tour.

    Not to mention chasing him down.

  9. I wouldn't discount Valverde.

  10. "Michael Press" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Well your first mistake was to read Bicycling, because they're always
    about 6 months behind on everything. Lance picked Jan months ago and
    it was likely to psyche him out. Jan won't win. My bet is Basso.

    Basso has finished on the podium twice because he's the only guy who's
    shown the ability to follow Armstrong during his explosive
    accelerations while climbing, then not lose too much time while time
    trialing.

    It's yet to be seen whether he can drop Ullrich himself without
    Armstrong's wheel to follow. I'm also not convinced that CSC will be
    able to control the peloton well enough to cope with Vinokourov.

    I do not think Vinokourov needs to be coped with. He is a
    master of the grand gesture but that does not win grand
    tours. Headstrong. He will make trouble for teams who take
    the bait. If _I_ were DS I would let other teams worry
    about him.

    I don't think we'll see the same Vino this year as we've seen in the past.
    This is the first time he's targeting his season atound the Tour. It's also
    the first season where he has a first rate team (perhaps even the strongest)
    just riding for him. And Saiz is not one to let his number one rider waste
    his energy in grand gestures. I think we'll see that Vino has ratcheted up
    his climbing a notch. Barring bad luck or a "jour sans" by one of the
    favorites, this Tour is likely to be decided in the CLM. If Vino and Basso
    can continue to make progress in the CLM, then Ullrich will have a tough
    time of it.

    CSC doesn't have to control the peloton all by themselves. Basso is not the
    patron (not yet anyway). If things hold true to form, it's T-Mobile that
    will have to control Vino and the rest in the Pyranees after Ullrich takes
    the jersey in Rennes. Assuming that Basso will be the strongest climber
    amongst the favorites, then CSC will have to take/protect the lead in the
    Alps (if they haven't yet by the end of the Pyranees), and try to increase
    it in view of the second ITT, But by then, the number of serious contenders
    should be reduced to a manageable size. They could have problems if Klodi is
    on form, but given the dynamics on T-Mobil and the complete ineptness in the
    area of tactics shown in the past, I don't think anyone other than Ullrich
    on that team is a big cause for concern. Should Beloki somehow find the same
    form he had before his crash, I think Saiz will blow things by splitting his
    allegiance between Vino and Beloki like he did when Beloki and GdG were both
    on form. And Botero will loose 20 minutes in the mountains one day, as
    usual, to end his effectiveness as a threat alongside Landis.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what tactics Discovery will be using. Bruyneel
    has shown himself a master tactician in the past, but it's easy to look good
    when you've got the best rider in the peloton on your roster. Is Bruyneel as
    clever when he has less to work with? As Armstrong says, "Johan Bruyneel is
    the first person who put Lance Armstrong and the Tour de France in the same
    sentence". I wonder what sentences M Brunyeel has been saying lately?

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