Lance looks lame

Uh, I'd say he looks pretty athletic.

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"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've been sucked into the Olympics, and I've been reminded what real
athletes look like. Like those 100 and 400 meter runners, the swimmers,

men

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gymnasts. Now those are real athletes. Then they show that lame Lance
commercial with Lance at a pickup game in the hood, doing pull-ups, and
trying to race a Harley with his bike. In the ad he looks as athletic as
Minnesota Fats.

"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've been sucked into the Olympics, and I've been reminded what real
athletes look like. Like those 100 and 400 meter runners, the swimmers,

men

Quoted message said:

gymnasts. Now those are real athletes. Then they show that lame Lance
commercial with Lance at a pickup game in the hood, doing pull-ups, and
trying to race a Harley with his bike. In the ad he looks as athletic as
Minnesota Fats.

This is doubtless a troll. I remember in "The Lance Commercials" on OLN
seeing a segment where they were doing a cover photo for Esquire magazine.
Lance had his shirt off and I was pretty much stunned at the chiseled
phyique he displayed. I think his pecs are vestiges of his
triathlon/swimming days. Same with the shoulders. The six-pack abs are
probably the result of an ongoing core body strength regimine that many
cyclists have adopted. In any case, all that's only talking about upper
body stuff. I noticed many of those gymnasts have these gargantuan arms and
chests and teeny little stick legs. Same with swimmers. Obviously not the
same for the track folk. But as for the track folk, I know a number of very
serious, competitive runners who have gotten into cycling in order to do
triathlons. They tell me 100 miles on a bike is WAY harder than 26 miles of
running. (Of course, they come from a running background, so their
perspective may be a bit skewed.)

I wonder what kind of a swimmer Lance was in his Tri days? He sure seems to
have the build for it.

Bob C.

psycholist said:

"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've been sucked into the Olympics, and I've been reminded what real
athletes look like. Like those 100 and 400 meter runners, the swimmers,

men

Quoted message said:

gymnasts. Now those are real athletes. Then they show that lame Lance
commercial with Lance at a pickup game in the hood, doing pull-ups, and
trying to race a Harley with his bike. In the ad he looks as athletic as
Minnesota Fats.

This is doubtless a troll. I remember in "The Lance Commercials" on OLN
seeing a segment where they were doing a cover photo for Esquire magazine.
Lance had his shirt off and I was pretty much stunned at the chiseled
phyique he displayed. I think his pecs are vestiges of his
triathlon/swimming days. Same with the shoulders. The six-pack abs are
probably the result of an ongoing core body strength regimine that many
cyclists have adopted. In any case, all that's only talking about upper
body stuff. I noticed many of those gymnasts have these gargantuan arms and
chests and teeny little stick legs. Same with swimmers. Obviously not the
same for the track folk. But as for the track folk, I know a number of very
serious, competitive runners who have gotten into cycling in order to do
triathlons. They tell me 100 miles on a bike is WAY harder than 26 miles of
running. (Of course, they come from a running background, so their
perspective may be a bit skewed.)

I wonder what kind of a swimmer Lance was in his Tri days? He sure seems to
have the build for it.

He looks like he'd be a good tri man and probably excellent in the shorter ones.
A lot of the ironman specialists ain't real fast.

The swimming stage is not particularly important in terms of time gained or lost
in most any tri. There are a lot of successful competitors who consider the
objective of the swim to be "complete it without drowning." Back when I was
doing Tri's it was obvious that swimmers had essentially no advantages. The
little time they gained in the water was quickly chewed up by the runners and
cyclists.

As for upper body and core strength, I think Lance is probably ahead of most of
the climbers and GC riders. I'm convinced it's an advantage. If avoiding excess
upper body mass were any real advantage Tyler would wine everything.

Ron

psycholist said:

"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've been sucked into the Olympics, and I've been reminded what real
athletes look like. Like those 100 and 400 meter runners, the swimmers,

men

Quoted message said:

gymnasts. Now those are real athletes. Then they show that lame Lance
commercial with Lance at a pickup game in the hood, doing pull-ups, and
trying to race a Harley with his bike. In the ad he looks as athletic as
Minnesota Fats.

This is doubtless a troll. I remember in "The Lance Commercials" on OLN
seeing a segment where they were doing a cover photo for Esquire magazine.
Lance had his shirt off and I was pretty much stunned at the chiseled
phyique he displayed. I think his pecs are vestiges of his
triathlon/swimming days. Same with the shoulders. The six-pack abs are
probably the result of an ongoing core body strength regimine that many
cyclists have adopted. In any case, all that's only talking about upper
body stuff. I noticed many of those gymnasts have these gargantuan arms and
chests and teeny little stick legs. Same with swimmers. Obviously not the
same for the track folk. But as for the track folk, I know a number of very
serious, competitive runners who have gotten into cycling in order to do
triathlons. They tell me 100 miles on a bike is WAY harder than 26 miles of
running. (Of course, they come from a running background, so their
perspective may be a bit skewed.)

I wonder what kind of a swimmer Lance was in his Tri days? He sure seems to
have the build for it.

Bob C.

You have to be kidding me if you think that 100 miles on a bike is harder than a marathon. I have never heard of someone running a marathon for 30 straight days, but I know plenty of 16 year olds who have done it to ride cross country.

competitive runners who have gotten into cycling in order to

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do
triathlons. They tell me 100 miles on a bike is WAY harder than 26
miles of
running. (Of course, they come from a running background, so their
perspective may be a bit skewed.)

I wonder what kind of a swimmer Lance was in his Tri days? He sure
seems to
have the build for it.

Bob C.

You have to be kidding me if you think that 100 miles on a bike is
harder than a marathon. I have never heard of someone running a
marathon for 30 straight days, but I know plenty of 16 year olds who
have done it to ride cross country.

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lazysegall

Lazy has a good point here. Running is way harder. I've done both,
I know what's harder. The reason, that I've read, is because on a bicycle
you sit down on a seat. Intuitively you should know that sitting in a chair
is easier than standing. So when you cycle the bike supports your weight.
Why do you think you see all these ol' farts cycling and not running.
'cause they're not stupid??

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"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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competitive runners who have gotten into cycling in order
to

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do
triathlons. They tell me 100 miles on a bike is WAY
harder than 26 miles of
running. (Of course, they come from a running
background, so their perspective may be a bit skewed.)

I wonder what kind of a swimmer Lance was in his Tri
days? He sure seems to
have the build for it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You have to be kidding me if you think that 100 miles on a
bike is harder than a marathon. I have never heard of
someone running a marathon for 30 straight days, but I
know plenty of 16 year olds who have done it to ride cross
country.

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Lazy has a good point here. Running is way harder.
I've done both,
I know what's harder. The reason, that I've read, is
because on a bicycle you sit down on a seat. Intuitively
you should know that sitting in a chair is easier than
standing. So when you cycle the bike supports your weight.
Why do you think you see all these ol' farts cycling and
not running. 'cause they're not stupid??

You're both right, in different ways. I've cycled centuries
and run a marathon, and running is "harder" not because of
the energy used and the calories burned, running is harder
because of all the wear and tear on one's muscloskeletal
system. I calculate that cycling 100 miles is actually burns
a bit more calories than running 26, so in that sense cycling
a century *is* tougher miles *is* tougher than running 26.
You get more pooped after doing the century, which also seems
right by my personal experience.

That's why the old farts move into cycling, because their
joints and muscles can't take the abuse from running anymore.
This is also why most would-be marathoners fail, their joints
or muscles break down in training for the event before they
can make it to race day.

Stewart

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Stewart Millen said:

That's why the old farts move into cycling, because their
joints and muscles can't take the abuse from running anymore.

Or race walking.

Jack Hollis said:

Stewart Millen said:

That's why the old farts move into cycling, because their
joints and muscles can't take the abuse from running anymore.

Or race walking.

I'm sure that perverse motion just chews up joints.

Ron