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  1. Fenimore said:

    The Lance Armstrong "story" has the smell of bogusness. Is it possible
    that he and his "handlers" have crafted a saga that targets Americans
    and citizens worldwide that have, in these very troubled and uncertain
    times, a need for superheroes, to give purpose and assurance to
    uncertain lives and weak psyches.

    I have several additional questions:

    1) How did Lance Armstrong beat his testicular cancer which, as he's
    often stated, had spread to his lungs, brains and other areas of his
    body?

    2) What treatment(s) were used in his "miraculous" cure?

    3) Why have we not heard about persons with similarly serious cancers
    overcoming their
    afflictions?

    4) How, without using steroidal-type chemicals, has he been able to
    WIN 7 TDF RACES IN A ROW, in the face of competitors who were as
    determined as he is and who doubtless as strong and conditioned (or
    steroided) as Armstrong?

    An answer to:
    "> 4) How, without using steroidal-type chemicals, has he been able
    to

    Quoted message said:

    WIN 7 TDF RACES IN A ROW, in the face of competitors who were as
    determined as he is and who doubtless as strong and conditioned (or
    steroided) as Armstrong?"

    Which of Mr. Armstrong's fellow competitors would have received a 2
    million bonus for winning the 2002 TDF/ 5 million for the 2003 TDF? and
    10 million for the 2003 TDF? This string of rewards has a way of
    focusing ones attention.

  2. Fenimore said:

    The Lance Armstrong "story" has the smell of bogusness. Is it possible
    that he and his "handlers" have crafted a saga that targets Americans
    and citizens worldwide that have, in these very troubled and uncertain
    times, a need for superheroes, to give purpose and assurance to
    uncertain lives and weak psyches.

    I have several additional questions:

    1) How did Lance Armstrong beat his testicular cancer which, as he's
    often stated, had spread to his lungs, brains and other areas of his
    body?

    2) What treatment(s) were used in his "miraculous" cure?

    3) Why have we not heard about persons with similarly serious cancers
    overcoming their
    afflictions?

    4) How, without using steroidal-type chemicals, has he been able to
    WIN 7 TDF RACES IN A ROW, in the face of competitors who were as
    determined as he is and who doubtless as strong and conditioned (or
    steroided) as Armstrong?

    An answer to:
    "> 4) How, without using steroidal-type chemicals, has he been able
    to

    Quoted message said:

    WIN 7 TDF RACES IN A ROW, in the face of competitors who were as
    determined as he is and who doubtless as strong and conditioned (or
    steroided) as Armstrong?"

    Which of Mr. Armstrong's fellow competitors would have received a 2
    million bonus for winning the 2002 TDF/ 5 million for the 2003 TDF? and
    10 million for the 2003 TDF? This string of rewards has a way of
    focusing ones attention.

  3. Quoted message said:


    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with respect to these questions,
    esp. since the first 2 had occured to me.
    I know no details of the particular histologic type of tumor, or the
    specific chemotherapeutic agents used. He was much used in print and TV
    ads by Bristol Myers-Squibb.
    I did have a conversation with my internist about how a widely
    disseminated tumor could have gone so rapidly into remission, and from
    what he said there may have in fact been a bit of spinning of the story
    to give the impression of a miraculous cure. According to him, the
    particular type of cancer Armstrong had was very responsive to chemo
    these days, and that cures of even advanced disease for this type of
    cancer are in fact routine.
    It doesn't make for as good a story, but might be even better news for
    the cancer sufferers out there.

    Steve

    The type of cancer Lance had, was caused by over-training. The
    over-training completely knocked down his immune system. In fact, it's
    possible he could have skipped the chemo all together, and just taken a 6
    month vacation, fishing in Wyoming, and the cancer would have gone away.

  4. Quoted message said:


    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with respect to these questions,
    esp. since the first 2 had occured to me.
    I know no details of the particular histologic type of tumor, or the
    specific chemotherapeutic agents used. He was much used in print and TV
    ads by Bristol Myers-Squibb.
    I did have a conversation with my internist about how a widely
    disseminated tumor could have gone so rapidly into remission, and from
    what he said there may have in fact been a bit of spinning of the story
    to give the impression of a miraculous cure. According to him, the
    particular type of cancer Armstrong had was very responsive to chemo
    these days, and that cures of even advanced disease for this type of
    cancer are in fact routine.
    It doesn't make for as good a story, but might be even better news for
    the cancer sufferers out there.

    Steve

    The type of cancer Lance had, was caused by over-training. The
    over-training completely knocked down his immune system. In fact, it's
    possible he could have skipped the chemo all together, and just taken a 6
    month vacation, fishing in Wyoming, and the cancer would have gone away.

  5. Quoted message said:


    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with respect to these questions,
    esp. since the first 2 had occured to me.
    I know no details of the particular histologic type of tumor, or the
    specific chemotherapeutic agents used. He was much used in print and TV
    ads by Bristol Myers-Squibb.
    I did have a conversation with my internist about how a widely
    disseminated tumor could have gone so rapidly into remission, and from
    what he said there may have in fact been a bit of spinning of the story
    to give the impression of a miraculous cure. According to him, the
    particular type of cancer Armstrong had was very responsive to chemo
    these days, and that cures of even advanced disease for this type of
    cancer are in fact routine.
    It doesn't make for as good a story, but might be even better news for
    the cancer sufferers out there.

    Steve

    The type of cancer Lance had, was caused by over-training. The
    over-training completely knocked down his immune system. In fact, it's
    possible he could have skipped the chemo all together, and just taken a 6
    month vacation, fishing in Wyoming, and the cancer would have gone away.

  6. Quoted message said:


    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with respect to these questions,
    esp. since the first 2 had occured to me.
    I know no details of the particular histologic type of tumor, or the
    specific chemotherapeutic agents used. He was much used in print and TV
    ads by Bristol Myers-Squibb.
    I did have a conversation with my internist about how a widely
    disseminated tumor could have gone so rapidly into remission, and from
    what he said there may have in fact been a bit of spinning of the story
    to give the impression of a miraculous cure. According to him, the
    particular type of cancer Armstrong had was very responsive to chemo
    these days, and that cures of even advanced disease for this type of
    cancer are in fact routine.
    It doesn't make for as good a story, but might be even better news for
    the cancer sufferers out there.

    Steve

    The type of cancer Lance had, was caused by over-training. The
    over-training completely knocked down his immune system. In fact, it's
    possible he could have skipped the chemo all together, and just taken a 6
    month vacation, fishing in Wyoming, and the cancer would have gone away.

  7. Quoted message said:


    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with respect to these questions,
    esp. since the first 2 had occured to me.
    I know no details of the particular histologic type of tumor, or the
    specific chemotherapeutic agents used. He was much used in print and TV
    ads by Bristol Myers-Squibb.
    I did have a conversation with my internist about how a widely
    disseminated tumor could have gone so rapidly into remission, and from
    what he said there may have in fact been a bit of spinning of the story
    to give the impression of a miraculous cure. According to him, the
    particular type of cancer Armstrong had was very responsive to chemo
    these days, and that cures of even advanced disease for this type of
    cancer are in fact routine.
    It doesn't make for as good a story, but might be even better news for
    the cancer sufferers out there.

    Steve

    The type of cancer Lance had, was caused by over-training. The
    over-training completely knocked down his immune system. In fact, it's
    possible he could have skipped the chemo all together, and just taken a 6
    month vacation, fishing in Wyoming, and the cancer would have gone away.

  8. Quoted message said:


    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with respect to these questions,
    esp. since the first 2 had occured to me.
    I know no details of the particular histologic type of tumor, or the
    specific chemotherapeutic agents used. He was much used in print and TV
    ads by Bristol Myers-Squibb.
    I did have a conversation with my internist about how a widely
    disseminated tumor could have gone so rapidly into remission, and from
    what he said there may have in fact been a bit of spinning of the story
    to give the impression of a miraculous cure. According to him, the
    particular type of cancer Armstrong had was very responsive to chemo
    these days, and that cures of even advanced disease for this type of
    cancer are in fact routine.
    It doesn't make for as good a story, but might be even better news for
    the cancer sufferers out there.

    Steve

    The type of cancer Lance had, was caused by over-training. The
    over-training completely knocked down his immune system. In fact, it's
    possible he could have skipped the chemo all together, and just taken a 6
    month vacation, fishing in Wyoming, and the cancer would have gone away.

  9. Quoted message said:


    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with respect to these questions,
    esp. since the first 2 had occured to me.
    I know no details of the particular histologic type of tumor, or the
    specific chemotherapeutic agents used. He was much used in print and TV
    ads by Bristol Myers-Squibb.
    I did have a conversation with my internist about how a widely
    disseminated tumor could have gone so rapidly into remission, and from
    what he said there may have in fact been a bit of spinning of the story
    to give the impression of a miraculous cure. According to him, the
    particular type of cancer Armstrong had was very responsive to chemo
    these days, and that cures of even advanced disease for this type of
    cancer are in fact routine.
    It doesn't make for as good a story, but might be even better news for
    the cancer sufferers out there.

    Steve

    The type of cancer Lance had, was caused by over-training. The
    over-training completely knocked down his immune system. In fact, it's
    possible he could have skipped the chemo all together, and just taken a 6
    month vacation, fishing in Wyoming, and the cancer would have gone away.

  10. You suggest the Armstrong story has been spun to give the "impression
    of a miraculous cure." I demure. Mr. Armstrong's recovery has
    consistantly attributed to the drug cocktail. This fact is made
    abundantly clear in the Bristol Meyers - Squibb commercials you
    reference. I find it difficult to understand how anyone who watched
    those commercial's could walk away with the "impression of a miraculous
    cure". It is my opinion that it if anyone is spinning it is you,
    and a weak strawman at that.

  11. You suggest the Armstrong story has been spun to give the "impression
    of a miraculous cure." I demure. Mr. Armstrong's recovery has
    consistantly attributed to the drug cocktail. This fact is made
    abundantly clear in the Bristol Meyers - Squibb commercials you
    reference. I find it difficult to understand how anyone who watched
    those commercial's could walk away with the "impression of a miraculous
    cure". It is my opinion that it if anyone is spinning it is you,
    and a weak strawman at that.

  12. You suggest the Armstrong story has been spun to give the "impression
    of a miraculous cure." I demure. Mr. Armstrong's recovery has
    consistantly attributed to the drug cocktail. This fact is made
    abundantly clear in the Bristol Meyers - Squibb commercials you
    reference. I find it difficult to understand how anyone who watched
    those commercial's could walk away with the "impression of a miraculous
    cure". It is my opinion that it if anyone is spinning it is you,
    and a weak strawman at that.

  13. You suggest the Armstrong story has been spun to give the "impression
    of a miraculous cure." I demure. Mr. Armstrong's recovery has
    consistantly attributed to the drug cocktail. This fact is made
    abundantly clear in the Bristol Meyers - Squibb commercials you
    reference. I find it difficult to understand how anyone who watched
    those commercial's could walk away with the "impression of a miraculous
    cure". It is my opinion that it if anyone is spinning it is you,
    and a weak strawman at that.

  14. You suggest the Armstrong story has been spun to give the "impression
    of a miraculous cure." I demure. Mr. Armstrong's recovery has
    consistantly attributed to the drug cocktail. This fact is made
    abundantly clear in the Bristol Meyers - Squibb commercials you
    reference. I find it difficult to understand how anyone who watched
    those commercial's could walk away with the "impression of a miraculous
    cure". It is my opinion that it if anyone is spinning it is you,
    and a weak strawman at that.

  15. You suggest the Armstrong story has been spun to give the "impression
    of a miraculous cure." I demure. Mr. Armstrong's recovery has
    consistantly attributed to the drug cocktail. This fact is made
    abundantly clear in the Bristol Meyers - Squibb commercials you
    reference. I find it difficult to understand how anyone who watched
    those commercial's could walk away with the "impression of a miraculous
    cure". It is my opinion that it if anyone is spinning it is you,
    and a weak strawman at that.

  16. You suggest the Armstrong story has been spun to give the "impression
    of a miraculous cure." I demure. Mr. Armstrong's recovery has
    consistantly attributed to the drug cocktail. This fact is made
    abundantly clear in the Bristol Meyers - Squibb commercials you
    reference. I find it difficult to understand how anyone who watched
    those commercial's could walk away with the "impression of a miraculous
    cure". It is my opinion that it if anyone is spinning it is you,
    and a weak strawman at that.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    The Lance Armstrong "story" has the smell of bogusness. Is it possible
    that he and his "handlers" have crafted a saga that targets Americans
    and citizens worldwide that have, in these very troubled and uncertain
    times, a need for superheroes, to give purpose and assurance to
    uncertain lives and weak psyches.

    I have several additional questions:

    1) How did Lance Armstrong beat his testicular cancer which, as he's
    often stated, had spread to his lungs, brains and other areas of his
    body?

    Read the book.

    Quoted message said:

    2) What treatment(s) were used in his "miraculous" cure?

    Read the book.

    Quoted message said:

    3) Why have we not heard about persons with similarly serious cancers
    overcoming their
    afflictions?

    They were not in the public light before their cancer. Otherwise you would
    hear about them.

    Quoted message said:

    4) How, without using steroidal-type chemicals, has he been able to
    WIN 7 TDF RACES IN A ROW, in the face of competitors who were as
    determined as he is and who doubtless as strong and conditioned (or
    steroided) as Armstrong?

    He is more dedicated to winning the TDF than the other guys. He prepares
    better and is blessed with good genes.

    Now put your tin foil hat back on and crawl back under your rock.
    --------------
    Alex

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    The Lance Armstrong "story" has the smell of bogusness. Is it possible
    that he and his "handlers" have crafted a saga that targets Americans
    and citizens worldwide that have, in these very troubled and uncertain
    times, a need for superheroes, to give purpose and assurance to
    uncertain lives and weak psyches.

    I have several additional questions:

    1) How did Lance Armstrong beat his testicular cancer which, as he's
    often stated, had spread to his lungs, brains and other areas of his
    body?

    Read the book.

    Quoted message said:

    2) What treatment(s) were used in his "miraculous" cure?

    Read the book.

    Quoted message said:

    3) Why have we not heard about persons with similarly serious cancers
    overcoming their
    afflictions?

    They were not in the public light before their cancer. Otherwise you would
    hear about them.

    Quoted message said:

    4) How, without using steroidal-type chemicals, has he been able to
    WIN 7 TDF RACES IN A ROW, in the face of competitors who were as
    determined as he is and who doubtless as strong and conditioned (or
    steroided) as Armstrong?

    He is more dedicated to winning the TDF than the other guys. He prepares
    better and is blessed with good genes.

    Now put your tin foil hat back on and crawl back under your rock.
    --------------
    Alex

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    The Lance Armstrong "story" has the smell of bogusness. Is it possible
    that he and his "handlers" have crafted a saga that targets Americans
    and citizens worldwide that have, in these very troubled and uncertain
    times, a need for superheroes, to give purpose and assurance to
    uncertain lives and weak psyches.

    I have several additional questions:

    1) How did Lance Armstrong beat his testicular cancer which, as he's
    often stated, had spread to his lungs, brains and other areas of his
    body?

    Read the book.

    Quoted message said:

    2) What treatment(s) were used in his "miraculous" cure?

    Read the book.

    Quoted message said:

    3) Why have we not heard about persons with similarly serious cancers
    overcoming their
    afflictions?

    They were not in the public light before their cancer. Otherwise you would
    hear about them.

    Quoted message said:

    4) How, without using steroidal-type chemicals, has he been able to
    WIN 7 TDF RACES IN A ROW, in the face of competitors who were as
    determined as he is and who doubtless as strong and conditioned (or
    steroided) as Armstrong?

    He is more dedicated to winning the TDF than the other guys. He prepares
    better and is blessed with good genes.

    Now put your tin foil hat back on and crawl back under your rock.
    --------------
    Alex

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    The Lance Armstrong "story" has the smell of bogusness. Is it possible
    that he and his "handlers" have crafted a saga that targets Americans
    and citizens worldwide that have, in these very troubled and uncertain
    times, a need for superheroes, to give purpose and assurance to
    uncertain lives and weak psyches.

    I have several additional questions:

    1) How did Lance Armstrong beat his testicular cancer which, as he's
    often stated, had spread to his lungs, brains and other areas of his
    body?

    Read the book.

    Quoted message said:

    2) What treatment(s) were used in his "miraculous" cure?

    Read the book.

    Quoted message said:

    3) Why have we not heard about persons with similarly serious cancers
    overcoming their
    afflictions?

    They were not in the public light before their cancer. Otherwise you would
    hear about them.

    Quoted message said:

    4) How, without using steroidal-type chemicals, has he been able to
    WIN 7 TDF RACES IN A ROW, in the face of competitors who were as
    determined as he is and who doubtless as strong and conditioned (or
    steroided) as Armstrong?

    He is more dedicated to winning the TDF than the other guys. He prepares
    better and is blessed with good genes.

    Now put your tin foil hat back on and crawl back under your rock.
    --------------
    Alex

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