Road Cycling · Public discussion

Lance Gripes About American Riders?

Started by Richard Adams · · Last activity · 19 posts · 1,033 views

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
Road Cycling
Published
26 April 2004
Last activity
29 April 2004
Original author
Richard Adams
Posts
19
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
1,033
Views / 30 days
0

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–19 of 19
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being
    taken by riders on other domestic teams in the Tour of
    Georgia and wouldn't return next year. I couldn't find
    anything to confirm a such a statement.

    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems
    a slightly sour note after what appeared to be a fine race
    and much needed publicity for domestic racing.

  2. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Richard Adams
    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being
    taken by riders on other domestic teams in the Tour of
    Georgia and wouldn't return next year. I couldn't find
    anything to confirm a such a statement.

    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems
    a slightly sour note after what appeared to be a fine race
    and much needed publicity for domestic racing.

    If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor then they might put heavy pressure on him to race. I have heard that dodge is a possibility. If he doesn't get a big domestic sponsor for postal then he won't be racing anyway.

  3. lazysegall said:
    Richard Adams said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks
    being taken by riders on other domestic teams in the
    Tour of Georgia and wouldn't return next year. I
    couldn't find anything to confirm a such a statement.
    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect?
    Seems a slightly sour note after what appeared to be a
    fine race and much needed publicity for domestic
    racing.

    If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor then
    they might put heavy pressure on him to race. I have
    heard that dodge is a possibility. If he doesn't get a
    big domestic sponsor for postal then he won't be
    racing anyway.

    I think it's safe to say that LA is only racing now because
    he wants to, he doesn't have to. Unless Kristin is taking
    him to the cleaners, he's made enough on endorsements to
    live quite comfortably in whatever is left of his homes.

    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the financial
    section or listening to the business news they're in no
    position to do any such thing. Daimler-Chrysler are
    effectively letting Mitsubishi die and their investment with
    it. Subaru would probably be in a better position.

  4. Kristin gets 1/2 of what they had, and at least 25% of what
    he makes (or should be making) before any taxes for child
    support. And on top of that she gets alimony. If he slacks
    off, she can take him to court again and win. He would have
    to prove that he is not a winner anymore to reduce payments.
    -simple Texas divorce law-

    "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    lazysegall said:
    Richard Adams said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks
    being taken by


    riders

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and
    wouldn't return


    next

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a
    statement. Has anyone else seen in print comments to
    this effect? Seems a


    slightly

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sour note after what appeared to be a fine race and
    much needed publicity for domestic racing.

    If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor then
    they might put heavy pressure on him to race. I have
    heard that dodge is a possibility. If he doesn't get a
    big domestic sponsor for postal then he won't be racing
    anyway.

    I think it's safe to say that LA is only racing now
    because he wants to, he doesn't have to. Unless Kristin is
    taking him to the cleaners, he's made enough on
    endorsements to live quite comfortably in whatever is left
    of his homes.

    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the financial
    section or listening to the business news they're in no
    position to do any such thing. Daimler-Chrysler are
    effectively letting Mitsubishi die and their investment
    with it. Subaru would probably be in a better position.

  5. "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Kristin gets 1/2 of what they had, and at least 25% of
    what he makes (or should be making) before any taxes for
    child support. And on top of that she gets alimony. If he
    slacks off, she can take him


    to

    Quoted message said:

    court again and win. He would have to prove that he is
    not a winner anymore to reduce payments. -simple Texas
    divorce law-

    What does a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce all
    have in common?

    Someone looses a mobile home.

  6. Does Texas have long term maintenance (alimony) or short
    term reconstructive maintenance (one to five years) which is
    what most states have moved to over the past 30 years?

    "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:

    Kristin gets 1/2 of what they had, and at least 25% of
    what he makes (or should be making) before any taxes for
    child support. And on top of that she gets alimony. If he
    slacks off, she can take him


    to

    Quoted message said:

    court again and win. He would have to prove that he is
    not a winner anymore to reduce payments. -simple Texas
    divorce law-

    "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    lazysegall said:

    Richard Adams wrote:
    > I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks
    > being taken by


    riders

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and
    > wouldn't return


    next

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a
    > statement. Has anyone else seen in print comments
    > to this effect? Seems a


    slightly

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > sour note after what appeared to be a fine race
    > and much needed publicity for domestic racing.

    If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor then
    they might put heavy pressure on him to race. I have
    heard that dodge is a


    possibility.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If he doesn't get a big domestic sponsor for postal
    then he won't be racing anyway.

    I think it's safe to say that LA is only racing now
    because he wants to, he doesn't have to. Unless Kristin
    is taking him to the cleaners, he's made enough on
    endorsements to live quite comfortably in whatever is
    left of his homes.

    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the
    financial section or listening to the business news
    they're in no position to do any such thing. Daimler-
    Chrysler are effectively letting Mitsubishi die and
    their investment with it. Subaru would probably be in a
    better


    position.

    Quoted message said:
  7. [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Richard Adams [/

    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the financial
    section or listening to the business news they're in no
    position to do any such thing. Daimler-Chrysler are
    effectively letting Mitsubishi die and their investment with
    it. Subaru would probably be in a better position. [/B][/QUOTE]

    7-8 million is nothing to a major car company even if it is an ailing one. Not that I am guarenteeing anything, but I wouldn't look at overall ecconomics.

  8. I heard this same thing from a friend, but I think he saw it
    on TV. I'll have to check.

    In either case, its more likely that Berry Floor would take
    over, particularly if he wins the Tour and doesn't retire.
    Its a good move for them to contend with QuickStep.

    CH

    [email hidden] (Richard Adams) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being
    taken by riders on other domestic teams in the Tour of
    Georgia and wouldn't return next year. I couldn't find
    anything to confirm a such a statement.

    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect?
    Seems a slightly sour note after what appeared to be a
    fine race and much needed publicity for domestic racing.

  9. 2 year alimony, but after that she can take him to court
    again to try to continue it. The CS stays 25% until 18, and
    she can push for college support in court now too. Since LA
    has the $$$$, lawyers will do most anything "access" it, and
    the courts will help her and her children out. Texas Law is
    wide open in court. Austin has one of the highest densities
    of lawyers to people in the Nation. (well known in Texas)

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I6rj-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Does Texas have long term maintenance (alimony) or
    short term


    reconstructive

    Quoted message said:

    maintenance (one to five years) which is what most states
    have moved to


    over

    Quoted message said:

    the past 30 years?

    "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:

    Kristin gets 1/2 of what they had, and at least 25% of
    what he makes (or should be making) before any taxes for
    child support. And on top of that she gets alimony. If
    he slacks off, she can take him


    to

    Quoted message said:

    court again and win. He would have to prove that he is
    not a winner anymore to reduce


    payments.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    -simple Texas divorce law-

    "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    lazysegall wrote:
    > Richard Adams wrote:
    > > I heard that Lance was irritated by needless
    > > risks being taken


    by

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    riders

    Quoted message said:

    > > on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia
    > > and wouldn't


    return

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    next

    Quoted message said:

    > > year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such
    > > a statement. Has anyone else seen in print
    > > comments to this effect? Seems a


    slightly

    Quoted message said:

    > > sour note after what appeared to be a fine race
    > > and much needed publicity for domestic racing.
    >
    > If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor
    > then they might


    put

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > heavy pressure on him to race. I have heard that
    > dodge is a


    possibility.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > If he doesn't get a big domestic sponsor for postal
    > then he won't be racing anyway.
    >

    I think it's safe to say that LA is only racing now
    because he wants


    to,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he doesn't have to. Unless Kristin is taking him to
    the cleaners,


    he's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    made enough on endorsements to live quite comfortably
    in whatever is left of his homes.

    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the
    financial section or listening to the business news
    they're in no position to do any such thing. Daimler-
    Chrysler are effectively letting Mitsubishi die and
    their investment with it. Subaru would probably be in
    a better


    position.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:



  10. chris said:

    I heard this same thing from a friend, but I think he saw
    it on TV. I'll have to check.

    I saw a quick interview after he won that sprint at the TdG
    a couple of days ago, and what he said then was something
    along the lines of "These guys don't use their brakes. Back
    in Europe, people know how to brake in a peloton, but not
    here in the US. It was a scary ride" or something like that.
    He looked quite upset, but he didn't say anything about not
    racing in the US again.

  11. "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being
    taken by riders on other domestic teams in the Tour of
    Georgia and wouldn't return next year. I couldn't find
    anything to confirm a such a statement.

    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect?
    Seems a slightly sour note after what appeared to be a
    fine race and much needed publicity for domestic racing.

    The only thing close to what you are talking about was his
    remark that American riders are not using there brakes as
    much as the European racers. No big deal. I did not see
    anything that indicated he thought this tranlated to
    "needless risks" but I suppose one could read it that way.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, "Bestest Handsander"

    Quoted message said:

    What does a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce all
    have in common?

    Someone looses a mobile home.

    Loses.

    This message brought to you by 1st grade.

  13. "chiefhiawatha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Bestest

    Handsander said:

    What does a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce
    all have in


    common?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Someone looses a mobile home.

    Loses.

    This message brought to you by 1st grade.

    Okay all you anal retentive morons out there... I'll type
    this part one more time and very slowly so you can keep up.
    When telling this joke orally, you purposefully use
    incorrect grammar and word choice and combine that with a
    southern accent. I typed it the way I'd imagine Cletus from
    the Simpson's would tell it.

    Now, why don't you all go back to proof-reading the
    newspaper so you can feel superior to all the typesetters
    out there.

  14. "Pistof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Curtis L. Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TM said:

    did you, ahem, mean grammar?

    Grammer - farm talk for talking like your grandmother.
    Typical example
    - giving driving directions in the city by saying, "Turn
    north."

    Oh man, it just keeps getting better and better. Ya gotta
    luv this group!

    Dave

    And I am sure that you have tried to!

    Cathar'

  15. "Bestest Handsander" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "chiefhiawatha" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Bestest

    Handsander said:

    What does a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce
    all have in


    common?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Someone looses a mobile home.

    Loses.

    This message brought to you by 1st grade.

    Okay all you anal retentive morons out there... I'll type
    this part one more time and very slowly so you can keep
    up. When telling this joke orally, you purposefully use
    incorrect grammar and word choice and combine that with a
    southern accent. I typed it the way I'd imagine Cletus
    from the Simpson's would tell it.

    Hahahaha, now that is funny!

    Cathar

    Quoted message said:


    Now, why don't you all go back to proof-reading the
    newspaper so you can feel superior to all the typesetters
    out there.

  16. This story has no credibility to be honest. It is like
    gossip.

    Curt

    "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being
    taken by riders on other domestic teams in the Tour of
    Georgia and wouldn't return next year. I couldn't find
    anything to confirm a such a statement.

    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect?
    Seems a slightly sour note after what appeared to be a
    fine race and much needed publicity for domestic racing.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bestest Handsander said:

    "chiefhiawatha" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Bestest

    Handsander said:

    What does a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce
    all have in


    common?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Someone looses a mobile home.

    Loses.

    This message brought to you by 1st grade.

    Okay all you anal retentive morons out there... I'll type
    this part one more time and very slowly so you can keep
    up. When telling this joke orally, you purposefully use
    incorrect grammar and word choice and combine that with a
    southern accent. I typed it the way I'd imagine Cletus
    from the Simpson's would tell it.

    Ahh, that explains it - "I meant to do that!" (Pee
    Wee Herman)

    --
    tanx, Howard

    Q: Can we call it a quagmire yet?

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  18. "Pistof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Curtis L. Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:04:20 GMT, "TM" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    did you, ahem, mean grammar?

    Grammer - farm talk for talking like your grandmother.
    Typical example
    - giving driving directions in the city by saying, "Turn
    north."

    Oh man, it just keeps getting better and better. Ya gotta
    luv this group!

    Dave

    I don't think it's Grammar, but Diction, they'all are
    referin' to, cuz.

  19. Apparently there was, but where I heard it from exaggerated
    a bit, hence it was a good idea to post on here and ask, to
    be better informed, rather than go around parroting whatever
    I'd heard.

    I don't get OLN, my only chance at it is the local pub,
    but there's too much competition from
    Basebore/Hoops/Hockey right now. The best I get is second
    hand info. I was a bit in disbelief at what I'd heard, but
    thought there might be a few young guns trying to impress
    while under the camera's eye.

    I did enjoy the comment the euro reporter made, "why does he
    shout about nothing?", in regard to the race announcing. I
    was at the Sea Otter for the road races and thought a bit
    more Phil Liggett and a bit less Bob Ufer, please.

    "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    This story has no credibility to be honest. It is
    like gossip.

    Curt

    "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being
    taken by riders on other domestic teams in the Tour of
    Georgia and wouldn't return next year. I couldn't find
    anything to confirm a such a statement.

    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect?
    Seems a slightly sour note after what appeared to be a
    fine race and much needed publicity for domestic racing.

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.