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  1. I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being taken by
    riders on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and wouldn't
    return next year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a
    statement.

    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems a
    slightly sour note after what appeared to be a fine race and much
    needed publicity for domestic racing.

  2. Richard Adams said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being taken by riders
    on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and wouldn't return next
    year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a statement.
    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems a slightly
    sour note after what appeared to be a fine race and much needed
    publicity for domestic racing.

    If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor then they might put
    heavy pressure on him to race. I have heard that dodge is a possibility.
    If he doesn't get a big domestic sponsor for postal then he won't be
    racing anyway.

    --

  3. lazysegall said:
    Richard Adams said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being taken by riders
    on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and wouldn't return next
    year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a statement.
    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems a slightly
    sour note after what appeared to be a fine race and much needed
    publicity for domestic racing.

    If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor then they might put
    heavy pressure on him to race. I have heard that dodge is a possibility.
    If he doesn't get a big domestic sponsor for postal then he won't be
    racing anyway.

    I think it's safe to say that LA is only racing now because he wants to,
    he doesn't have to. Unless Kristin is taking him to the cleaners, he's
    made enough on endorsements to live quite comfortably in whatever is
    left of his homes.

    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the financial section or
    listening to the business news they're in no position to do any such
    thing. Daimler-Chrysler are effectively letting Mitsubishi die and
    their investment with it. Subaru would probably be in a better position.

  4. Kristin gets 1/2 of what they had, and at least 25% of what he makes (or
    should be making) before any taxes for child support.
    And on top of that she gets alimony. If he slacks off, she can take him to
    court again and win.
    He would have to prove that he is not a winner anymore to reduce payments.
    -simple Texas divorce law-

    "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    lazysegall said:
    Richard Adams said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being taken by


    riders

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    on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and wouldn't return


    next

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    year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a statement.
    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems a


    slightly

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    sour note after what appeared to be a fine race and much needed
    publicity for domestic racing.

    If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor then they might put
    heavy pressure on him to race. I have heard that dodge is a possibility.
    If he doesn't get a big domestic sponsor for postal then he won't be
    racing anyway.

    I think it's safe to say that LA is only racing now because he wants to,
    he doesn't have to. Unless Kristin is taking him to the cleaners, he's
    made enough on endorsements to live quite comfortably in whatever is
    left of his homes.

    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the financial section or
    listening to the business news they're in no position to do any such
    thing. Daimler-Chrysler are effectively letting Mitsubishi die and
    their investment with it. Subaru would probably be in a better position.

  5. "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Kristin gets 1/2 of what they had, and at least 25% of what he makes (or
    should be making) before any taxes for child support.
    And on top of that she gets alimony. If he slacks off, she can take him


    to

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    court again and win.
    He would have to prove that he is not a winner anymore to reduce payments.
    -simple Texas divorce law-

    What does a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce all have in common?

    Someone looses a mobile home.

  6. Does Texas have long term maintenance (alimony) or short term reconstructive
    maintenance (one to five years) which is what most states have moved to over
    the past 30 years?

    "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    Kristin gets 1/2 of what they had, and at least 25% of what he makes (or
    should be making) before any taxes for child support.
    And on top of that she gets alimony. If he slacks off, she can take him


    to

    Quoted message said:

    court again and win.
    He would have to prove that he is not a winner anymore to reduce payments.
    -simple Texas divorce law-

    "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    lazysegall said:

    Richard Adams wrote:
    > I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being taken by


    riders

    Quoted message said:
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    > on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and wouldn't return


    next

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a statement.
    > Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems a


    slightly

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > sour note after what appeared to be a fine race and much needed
    > publicity for domestic racing.

    If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor then they might put
    heavy pressure on him to race. I have heard that dodge is a


    possibility.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If he doesn't get a big domestic sponsor for postal then he won't be
    racing anyway.

    I think it's safe to say that LA is only racing now because he wants to,
    he doesn't have to. Unless Kristin is taking him to the cleaners, he's
    made enough on endorsements to live quite comfortably in whatever is
    left of his homes.

    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the financial section or
    listening to the business news they're in no position to do any such
    thing. Daimler-Chrysler are effectively letting Mitsubishi die and
    their investment with it. Subaru would probably be in a better


    position.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
  7. Hmmmm..........What DOES a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce
    have in common?
    Someone LOOSES a mobile home. If you agree to learn basic grammer and
    spelling, i will give up my Webtv and get a computer.

  8. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    If you agree to learn basic grammer and

    Quoted message said:

    spelling, i will give up my Webtv and get a computer.

    did you, ahem, mean grammar?

  9. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    Hmmmm..........What DOES a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce
    have in common?
    Someone LOOSES a mobile home. If you agree to learn basic grammer and
    spelling, i will give up my Webtv and get a computer.

    I can hardly wait for Robert's next brilliant observation:

    "Wait a minute! This isn't a forest! This is a bunch of trees!"

    My apologies for attempting to type the joke in a manner similar to its oral
    recitation.

  10. "TM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    If you agree to learn basic grammer and

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    spelling, i will give up my Webtv and get a computer.

    did you, ahem, mean grammar?

    (snort! 🙂

  11. I heard this same thing from a friend, but I think he saw it on TV.
    I'll have to check.

    In either case, its more likely that Berry Floor would take over,
    particularly if he wins the Tour and doesn't retire. Its a good move
    for them to contend with QuickStep.

    CH

    [email hidden] (Richard Adams) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being taken by
    riders on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and wouldn't
    return next year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a
    statement.

    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems a
    slightly sour note after what appeared to be a fine race and much
    needed publicity for domestic racing.

  12. Quoted message said:

    Originally posted by Richard Adams [/
    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the financial section or
    listening to the business news they're in no position to do any such
    thing. Daimler-Chrysler are effectively letting Mitsubishi die and their
    investment with
    it. Subaru would probably be in a better position.

    7-8 million is nothing to a major car company even if it is an ailing
    one. Not that I am guarenteeing anything, but I wouldn't look at overall
    ecconomics.

    --

  13. TM said:

    did you, ahem, mean grammar?

    Grammer - farm talk for talking like your grandmother. Typical example
    - giving driving directions in the city by saying, "Turn north."

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  14. 2 year alimony, but after that she can take him to court again to try to
    continue it. The CS stays 25% until 18, and
    she can push for college support in court now too. Since LA has the $$$$,
    lawyers will do most anything "access" it, and the courts will help her and
    her children out. Texas Law is wide open in court. Austin has one of the
    highest densities of lawyers to people in the Nation. (well known in Texas)

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Does Texas have long term maintenance (alimony) or short term


    reconstructive

    Quoted message said:

    maintenance (one to five years) which is what most states have moved to


    over

    Quoted message said:

    the past 30 years?

    "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Kristin gets 1/2 of what they had, and at least 25% of what he makes (or
    should be making) before any taxes for child support.
    And on top of that she gets alimony. If he slacks off, she can take him


    to

    Quoted message said:

    court again and win.
    He would have to prove that he is not a winner anymore to reduce


    payments.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    -simple Texas divorce law-

    "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    lazysegall wrote:
    > Richard Adams wrote:
    > > I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being taken


    by

    Quoted message said:
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    riders

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    > > on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and wouldn't


    return

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    next

    Quoted message said:

    > > year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a statement.
    > > Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems a


    slightly

    Quoted message said:

    > > sour note after what appeared to be a fine race and much needed
    > > publicity for domestic racing.
    >
    > If postal is taken over by a big domestic sponsor then they might


    put

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > heavy pressure on him to race. I have heard that dodge is a


    possibility.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > If he doesn't get a big domestic sponsor for postal then he won't be
    > racing anyway.
    >

    I think it's safe to say that LA is only racing now because he wants


    to,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he doesn't have to. Unless Kristin is taking him to the cleaners,


    he's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    made enough on endorsements to live quite comfortably in whatever is
    left of his homes.

    Don't look to Dodge. If you've been reading the financial section or
    listening to the business news they're in no position to do any such
    thing. Daimler-Chrysler are effectively letting Mitsubishi die and
    their investment with it. Subaru would probably be in a better


    position.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
  15. chris said:

    I heard this same thing from a friend, but I think he saw it on TV.
    I'll have to check.

    I saw a quick interview after he won that sprint at the TdG a couple of
    days ago, and what he said then was something along the lines of "These
    guys don't use their brakes. Back in Europe, people know how to brake
    in a peloton, but not here in the US. It was a scary ride" or something
    like that. He looked quite upset, but he didn't say anything about not
    racing in the US again.

  16. "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I heard that Lance was irritated by needless risks being taken by
    riders on other domestic teams in the Tour of Georgia and wouldn't
    return next year. I couldn't find anything to confirm a such a
    statement.

    Has anyone else seen in print comments to this effect? Seems a
    slightly sour note after what appeared to be a fine race and much
    needed publicity for domestic racing.

    The only thing close to what you are talking about was his remark that
    American riders are not using there brakes as much as the European racers.
    No big deal. I did not see anything that indicated he thought this tranlated
    to "needless risks" but I suppose one could read it that way.

  17. DOH!

  18. "Curtis L. Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TM said:

    did you, ahem, mean grammar?

    Grammer - farm talk for talking like your grandmother. Typical example
    - giving driving directions in the city by saying, "Turn north."

    Oh man, it just keeps getting better and better. Ya gotta luv this group!

    Dave

  19. In article <[email hidden]>, "Bestest Handsander"

    Quoted message said:

    What does a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce all have in common?

    Someone looses a mobile home.

    Loses.

    This message brought to you by 1st grade.

  20. "chiefhiawatha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Bestest Handsander"

    Quoted message said:

    What does a tornado, a hurricane, and a Texas divorce all have in


    common?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Someone looses a mobile home.

    Loses.

    This message brought to you by 1st grade.

    Okay all you anal retentive morons out there... I'll type this part one more
    time and very slowly so you can keep up. When telling this joke orally, you
    purposefully use incorrect grammar and word choice and combine that with a
    southern accent. I typed it the way I'd imagine Cletus from the Simpson's
    would tell it.

    Now, why don't you all go back to proof-reading the newspaper so you can
    feel superior to all the typesetters out there.

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