Lance Armstrong to open bike shop

zzfranklin said:

I wonder if he'll be a dealer for bikes with legendary ride quality like
these:
http://www.lemondbikes.com/

And will he have this guy as a partner:
http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/other/11/5lance.html

Donald Munro asks

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And will he have this guy as a partner:
http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/other/11/5lance.html

... mechanic, driver, travel assistant and pool boy...you gotta admit,
the guy is handier than Cato Calin...

Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

Donald Munro said:

zzfranklin said:

I wonder if he'll be a dealer for bikes with legendary ride quality like
these:
http://www.lemondbikes.com/

That Lemond 'Sarthe' with the True Temper OX Steel frame
is one sweet bike. Only wish it was built with something
more like Dedacciai SAT 14.5 tubing.

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/mar08/mar14news

"
Armstrong will cater to serious road racers with top end Trek bikes,
similar to those Armstrong rode on his seven consecutive Tour de
France victories, but also wants the shop to have wide appeal. He has
plans to sell mountain bikes, commuter bikes, fixed wheels, low
riders, handmade one-offs, and triathlon bikes.
"

Any store that tries to do everything cycling-wise (commuters, racers,
mtn., low-riders ?) ends up sucking at everything.

If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.

Quoted message said:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/mar08/mar14news

"
Armstrong will cater to serious road racers with top end Trek bikes,
similar to those Armstrong rode on his seven consecutive Tour de
France victories, but also wants the shop to have wide appeal. He has
plans to sell mountain bikes, commuter bikes, fixed wheels, low
riders, handmade one-offs, and triathlon bikes.
"

I wonder if he'll be a dealer for bikes with legendary ride quality
like these:http://www.lemondbikes.com/

Bruce Gilbert said:

I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a

strong effect

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on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take off
in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither are
the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet?

Bruce

Terry just did a webcast on weight control and biking and they've posted
it on their website.

http://www.terrybicycles.com/seminar.html

I haven't watched it by my wife did. It was originally broadcast live
and they got so many more folks trying to log on than they'd planned for
that the server crashed.
Of course Terry's for girls so it would have little effect on what guys
want.

David

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If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.

Most of the older folks in the bike business, who are the real players, are
a bit older than the racing crowd. The same phenomenon is true for a large
percentage of the people with the disposable income to buy the top end race
bikes. I believe your comment about most people in the bike business don't
ride is valid, to a degree. Most of us ride as much as they can. This exact
observation was very much on my mind during the last Interbike. I would
leave our booth to cruise the show and did observe how many wide-body
participants were in the aisles and behind the tables.

I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a strong effect
on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take off
in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither are
the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet? I wonder if
it is even practical in terms of liability, economics, etc.? Wouldn't it be
interesting if cycling based weight-loss programs started showing up in bike
shops. Race training information abounds in the bike world. Weight-loss and
wellness would be broader based and have a more universal appeal. There are
enough experts and good writers in this newsgroup alone, for a few folks to
put their minds together in order to form an effective company. Anyone
interested? If nothing else it would make a great marketing story...

I did recently see that the LAB has formed some sort of relationship with
AARP. Also, I have heard that there is a bike tour company somewhere that
does bus tours for retirees. They seem to hit a lot of the organized rides
around the country. That could be the start of low-cost wellness-oriented
vacationing. Interesting idea...

Bruce

Bruce Gilbert said:

"David B." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Bruce Gilbert said:

I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a

strong effect

Quoted message said:

on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take

off

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither

are

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet?

Bruce

Terry just did a webcast on weight control and biking and they've posted
it on their website.

http://www.terrybicycles.com/seminar.html

I haven't watched it by my wife did. It was originally broadcast live
and they got so many more folks trying to log on than they'd planned for
that the server crashed.
Of course Terry's for girls so it would have little effect on what guys
want.

David

They make men's seats too... there is hope for the company!

Bruce

Saddles, please!

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Quoted message said:

Bruce Gilbert said:

I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a

strong effect

Quoted message said:

on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take

off

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither

are

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet?

Bruce

Terry just did a webcast on weight control and biking and they've posted
it on their website.

http://www.terrybicycles.com/seminar.html

I haven't watched it by my wife did. It was originally broadcast live
and they got so many more folks trying to log on than they'd planned for
that the server crashed.
Of course Terry's for girls so it would have little effect on what guys
want.

David

They make men's seats too... there is hope for the company!

Bruce

Bruce Gilbert said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:[email hidden]...> If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing

Quoted message said:

and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.

Most of the older folks in the bike business, who are the real players, are
a bit older than the racing crowd. The same phenomenon is true for a large
percentage of the people with the disposable income to buy the top end race
bikes. I believe your comment about most people in the bike business don't
ride is valid, to a degree. Most of us ride as much as they can. This exact
observation was very much on my mind during the last Interbike. I would
leave our booth to cruise the show and did observe how many wide-body
participants were in the aisles and behind the tables.

I read a book called "The New Wellness Revolution" which had a strong effect
on me. I now believe that in order for the bike business to really take off
in this country, it has to be bound up with adult wellness somehow. Bike
shops are not projecting or reinforcing that image very well and neither are
the bike manufacturers. How many bike company websites have a weight
loss/control program on their websites, or in the info packet? I wonder if
it is even practical in terms of liability, economics, etc.? Wouldn't it be
interesting if cycling based weight-loss programs started showing up in bike
shops. Race training information abounds in the bike world. Weight-loss and
wellness would be broader based and have a more universal appeal. There are
enough experts and good writers in this newsgroup alone, for a few folks to
put their minds together in order to form an effective company. Anyone
interested? If nothing else it would make a great marketing story...

One of the big challenges for cycling is to get more kids riding
again. Many kids don't ride their bikes to school because of traffic
and parents fear of crime. The ASO sponsored a TDF themed series of
cycling contests around France a few years back. This the sort of
thing the bike industry and the NBDA (national bicycle dealers
association) needs to get involved in. The would help with the
wellness issue you speak of.

Quoted message said:

I did recently see that the LAB has formed some sort of relationship with
AARP. Also, I have heard that there is a bike tour company somewhere that
does bus tours for retirees. They seem to hit a lot of the organized rides
around the country. That could be the start of low-cost wellness-oriented
vacationing. Interesting idea...

Bruce

Quoted message said:

If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.

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I think it has to do the ass opposite,
.....distance itself from racing as much
as possible. For most people, including
myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
I didn't really like the people, when I
was doing it myself. It's apples and
oranges, but if you want to try your
theory, open a bike shop that is
specific only to bike racing, and see
how many people come in. The average
guy, I'm guessing, that wants to buy a
bike, wants a little adventure, and to
stay fit and lose a little weight.
That's light years from the haughtiness,
and self absorption that bike racers
cling on to.

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I think it has to do the ass opposite, ....distance itself from racing as much as
possible. For most people, including myself, bike racing is a big turn-off. I didn't
really like the people, when I was doing it myself. It's apples and oranges, but if you
want to try your theory, open a bike shop that is specific only to bike racing, and see
how many people come in. The average guy, I'm guessing, that wants to buy a bike, wants
a little adventure, and to stay fit and lose a little weight. That's light years from
the haughtiness, and self absorption that bike racers cling on to.

OK, who let this FRED get in here?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Crescentius Vespasianus said:

Quoted message said:

If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.

------------
I think it has to do the ass opposite,
....distance itself from racing as much
as possible. For most people, including
myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
I didn't really like the people, when I
was doing it myself.

You were doing it wrong.

--
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"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

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Crescentius Vespasianus said:

------------
I think it has to do the ass opposite,
....distance itself from racing as much
as possible. For most people, including
myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
I didn't really like the people, when I
was doing it myself.

You were doing it wrong.

But he'll never understand how or why.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

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Quoted message said:

Crescentius Vespasianus said:

------------
I think it has to do the ass opposite,
....distance itself from racing as much
as possible. For most people, including
myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
I didn't really like the people, when I
was doing it myself.

You were doing it wrong.

But he'll never understand how or why.

You were, too.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Crescentius Vespasianus said:

Quoted message said:

If Lance is smart he won't run the shop or hire a consultant. Racing
and running a bike shop are different realms. One big advantage that
Lance has is that he actually rides a bike. I was always amazed at how
few people in the bike industry ride a bike. Most people in the bike
business don't ride at all. Another problem is that there is far to
little interaction between bicycle racing and bike business.

------------
I think it has to do the ass opposite,
....distance itself from racing as much
as possible. For most people, including
myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
I didn't really like the people, when I
was doing it myself.

You were doing it wrong.

----------
I should have done something like ski
jumping, at least there is a fan base in
that sport.

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Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]> wrote:
> ------------
> I think it has to do the ass opposite,
> ....distance itself from racing as much
> as possible. For most people, including
> myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
> I didn't really like the people, when I
> was doing it myself.

You were doing it wrong.

But he'll never understand how or why.

You were, too.

And how was I doing it?

"Crescentius Vespasianus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

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------------
I think it has to do the ass opposite, ....distance itself from racing
as much as possible. For most people, including myself, bike racing is
a big turn-off. I didn't really like the people, when I was doing it
myself.

You were doing it wrong.

----------
I should have done something like ski jumping, at least there is a fan
base in that sport.

If that's your priority...

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> ------------
>> I think it has to do the ass opposite,
>> ....distance itself from racing as much
>> as possible. For most people, including
>> myself, bike racing is a big turn-off.
>> I didn't really like the people, when I
>> was doing it myself.
>
> You were doing it wrong.

But he'll never understand how or why.

You were, too.

And how was I doing it?

You never left Cat 5 and you declined to contest sprints. You should
have done time trials and stuck with it.

Even a personal best is sort of honourable.

At least you didn't ride in Harrison Hot Springs:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rcousine/2336500893/

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