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  1. It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.
    Unless they include some exciting footage of a high speed twisty Alpine
    descent that shows what it's like from Lance's point of view.

  2. "MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.
    Unless they include some exciting footage of a high speed twisty Alpine
    descent that shows what it's like from Lance's point of view.

    How on earth are they going to recreate the climbs in the Tour de France
    with thousands of fans lining the road - this should be hilarious. Maybe
    they'll get a bunch of Cat. 3's to pretend they're Euro-pros.


    It's the movies, they're in the make believe business. They can recreate
    the Roman Coliseum, the Super Bowl, the sinking of the Titanic, the streets
    of Mogadishu etc., etc., etc. and you have to ask? A concept apparently too
    advanced for certain primates among us.

  3. wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.
    Unless they include some exciting footage of a high speed twisty Alpine
    descent that shows what it's like from Lance's point of view.

    It's probably not going to be a movie about racing, more likely a
    movie about beating cancer. Not a how-to but a drama that will be
    designed to pull at your heart(purse)-strings and it will let you know
    that the Lance Armstrong Foundation is still accepting donations.

  4. wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    Personally, I think there's a lot more mileage in 'Bubble Boy' jokes
    than 'Brokeback Mountain' jokes. Good lord, that movie was terrible...

    ~bob

  5. wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.
    Unless they include some exciting footage of a high speed twisty Alpine
    descent that shows what it's like from Lance's point of view.

    dumbass,

    i'm hoping it's "american flyers 2", complete with ivan drago as jan
    ullrich and an al trautwig cameo.

  6. [email hidden] wrote in news:1156694082.728232.190170
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    Quoted message said:


    wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.
    Unless they include some exciting footage of a high speed twisty Alpine
    descent that shows what it's like from Lance's point of view.

    dumbass,

    i'm hoping it's "american flyers 2", complete with ivan drago as jan
    ullrich and an al trautwig cameo.

    Actually, it would be really cool. Jan Ullrich should say
    at some point, "come on this isn't a sunday stroll."

    In the end they become fast friends.

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  7. William O'Hara said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:1156694082.728232.190170
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    Quoted message said:


    wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.
    Unless they include some exciting footage of a high speed twisty Alpine
    descent that shows what it's like from Lance's point of view.

    dumbass,

    i'm hoping it's "american flyers 2", complete with ivan drago as jan
    ullrich and an al trautwig cameo.

    Actually, it would be really cool. Jan Ullrich should say
    at some point, "come on this isn't a sunday stroll."

    In the end they become fast friends.

    But, tragically, only as Jan dies having used his super powers to foil the evil
    Greg LeMond's plans for world domination by using a WMD to detonate Paris on the
    final day.

    Ron

  8. Snippy Bobkins said:

    In the early 2000s, computer-generated imagery became the dominant form of
    special effects. ... Computer-generated extras also became used extensively
    in crowd scenes with advanced flocking and crowd simulation software.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-generated_imagery

    Aki Ross is teh hawt.

    JT

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  9. William O'Hara said:

    [email hidden] wrote in news:1156694082.728232.190170
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    Quoted message said:


    wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.
    Unless they include some exciting footage of a high speed twisty Alpine
    descent that shows what it's like from Lance's point of view.

    dumbass,

    i'm hoping it's "american flyers 2", complete with ivan drago as jan
    ullrich and an al trautwig cameo.

    Actually, it would be really cool. Jan Ullrich should say
    at some point, "come on this isn't a sunday stroll."

    For some reason I want to see Arnold Schwarzenegger play Ullrich and,
    as the top guys try to head down from the finish at L'Alpe d"Huez he
    yells "Come on, get to the chopper!"

    JT

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  10. matabala said:

    "MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.
    Unless they include some exciting footage of a high speed twisty Alpine
    descent that shows what it's like from Lance's point of view.

    How on earth are they going to recreate the climbs in the Tour de France
    with thousands of fans lining the road - this should be hilarious. Maybe
    they'll get a bunch of Cat. 3's to pretend they're Euro-pros.

    It's the movies, they're in the make believe business. They can recreate
    the Roman Coliseum, the Super Bowl, the sinking of the Titanic, the streets
    of Mogadishu etc., etc., etc. and you have to ask? A concept apparently too
    advanced for certain primates among us.

    Hey ass clown....the racing scenes ain't going to look realistic unless
    they use authentic OLN footage. This ain't gonna be a big-budget movie
    like Titanic and James Cameron isn't its director.

    Either they are going to use real race footage, in which case it will be
    gay because it will be like watching a repeat. And if they use extras,
    they would have to use experienced racers and pay them SAG wages. That's
    not going to happen either.

    Besides, we already know the Lance story. We don't need to hear about
    it again and again, and again. And to have that Brokeback cruiser
    playing Lance is über-gay.

    The only people who will see this movie are the same type of people who
    wore the yellow Livestrong wristbands to make them feel like they belong
    to some cause in life.

    Lance's cancer story has been beaten to death. Nobody cares about it
    anymore because it has been commercialized too much. It totally lost
    its sentimental appeal.

    And how are they going to portray all his failed relationships...he went
    through 3 women. Name one other movie where the lead female changes 3
    times before the end.

    This story is something that should have been left to a good documentary
    director, not Hollywood.

    Take care,

    Magilla

  11. wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    Most of us Americans can read no better than a gorilla, so all the books
    in the world don't matter. While the mass media has covered the story,
    they've done it in the typical "let's squeeze it into something a 30
    second attention span can grasp" sort of way that they cover everything.

    Quoted message said:

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.

    You know it, I know it. Hollywood doesn't make movies for RBR. What
    matters is that my mother knows little about him and might be willing to
    shell out $9 for an inspirational 90 minutes of semi-fiction.

    Quoted message said:

    Unless they include some exciting footage of a high speed twisty Alpine
    descent that shows what it's like from Lance's point of view.

    This footage will be shot from a motorcycle.

  12. I read that Frank Marshall the producer/director for the film was there
    at the last tour shooting footage. Jake G was there too.

  13. Quoted message said:

    I read that Frank Marshall the producer/director for the film was there
    at the last tour shooting footage. Jake G was there too.

    I should have said at the 2005 tour when Lance was riding. So Marshall
    was shooting footage at the 2005 tour, and Jake was at the 2006 tour
    doing research, I guess.

  14. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I read that Frank Marshall the producer/director for the film was there
    at the last tour shooting footage. Jake G was there too.

    I should have said at the 2005 tour when Lance was riding. So Marshall
    was shooting footage at the 2005 tour, and Jake was at the 2006 tour
    doing research, I guess.

    If they are including his final tour, then that means they will have to
    address the divorce to Kristin. And since everyone knows Lance dumped
    Sheryl after that, his relationship with her will be like watching OJ's
    relationship with Nicole Brown Simpson.

    I don't see how they are going to integrate those break-ups into a
    Hollywood storyboard that asks the viewer to have sympathy for the main
    character and his personal relationships. Sounds to me like they will
    play down those relationships.

    Is the movie going to end with Lance going out to clubs and dating
    flight attendants?

    This movie is a mistake. It's like Rocky breaking up with Adrian, going
    out with a celebrity, and then breaking up with her too in the course of
    one film. It needs to be told as a documentary, not as a
    semi-fictionalized account.

    Magilla

  15. Fred Fredburger said:
    wimpyVO2 said:

    It's hitting the newswires now that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Lance
    Armstrong in a major motion picture on Armstrong's life. Setting aside
    the obvious "Brokeback Mountain" jokes, the big question is: Why? Do we
    really need an Armstrong biography on film? He's got two books out, his
    Mom wrote a book, and his cycling career and cancer recovery have been
    repeated in the mass media ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

    Most of us Americans can read no better than a gorilla, so all the books
    in the world don't matter. While the mass media has covered the story,
    they've done it in the typical "let's squeeze it into something a 30
    second attention span can grasp" sort of way that they cover everything.

    Quoted message said:

    I know I'm not going to shell out $9 to see a story I already know.

    You know it, I know it. Hollywood doesn't make movies for RBR. What
    matters is that my mother knows little about him and might be willing to
    shell out $9 for an inspirational 90 minutes of semi-fiction.

    Wrong. Everybody knows Lance got cancer, won the Tour de France, and
    dumped Sheryl Crow after divorcing his wife. There's nothing left to
    tell. Not to me, or anyone else.

    And if your mom doesn't watch cycling already, she ain't gonna be
    inspired by a guy who wins bike races. Most women will be turned off by
    a movie where the hero dumps two women and then goes out clubbing.

    That is all.

    Magilla

  16. MagillaGorilla said:

    Most women will be turned off by
    a movie where the hero dumps two women and then goes out clubbing.

    That is all.

    dumbass,

    you have amazing insight into the female mind.

    look at how much women hate brad pitt, or derek jeter, if you want a
    sports figure.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    MagillaGorilla said:

    And how are they going to portray all his failed relationships...he went
    through 3 women. Name one other movie where the lead female changes 3
    times before the end.

    Alfie, 1966.

    --
    Michael Press

  18. Michael Press said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    MagillaGorilla said:

    And how are they going to portray all his failed relationships...he went
    through 3 women. Name one other movie where the lead female changes 3
    times before the end.

    Alfie, 1966.

    A movie about Steve Prefontaine is way more interesting than a movie
    about Lance because Pre was an enigma and nobody could really follow his
    life in the pre-Internet era. Whereas with Lance, it was so
    commercialized and beaten to death, that everyone's sick of it. There's
    nothing left to tell. Too many Subaru commercials. We already know the
    guy "beat" cancer and won the Tour.

    Nobody will see this movie.

    Second, it should have been made years ago after his first Tour victory
    while the hype was still on the upswing. Lance is now retired,
    divorced, and a Hollywood lamprey. Those are not sympathetic character
    traits.

    If "beating" cancer were such an interesting storyline, then Ernie
    Lechuga would also have a movie deal. So that leaves us with a story
    about a guy who won 7 Tours with several teammates who helped him win
    who have subsequently been convicted of doping offenses. The movie will
    probably hit screens just as Landis loses his CAS appeal.

    Lance is jumping the shark with this film, although some argue he
    already jumped the shark when he went on Saturday Night Live with
    Sheryl. This movie is just another commercial.

    Lance may as well bring Lindsey Lohan to the premiere.

    Magilla & Ebert

  19. MagillaGorilla said:

    Wrong. Everybody knows Lance got cancer, won the Tour de France, and
    dumped Sheryl Crow after divorcing his wife. There's nothing left to
    tell. Not to me, or anyone else.

    Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that. But we're a minority. Millions
    of copies of his biographies have sold. Those were WAY longer than your
    one sentence synopsis. So lots of people have bought into a much larger
    story than you allow for or I care about. Hollywood can only make things
    worse. I cannot imagine what kind of [censored] they are likely to pack
    around the story as filler. No way would I pay to watch that.

    I WOULD pay to see a film of Brian Lafferty tied to a chair and being
    forced to watch it, however. That would be entertaining!

  20. "Fred Fredburger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    MagillaGorilla said:

    Wrong. Everybody knows Lance got cancer, won the Tour de France, and
    dumped Sheryl Crow after divorcing his wife. There's nothing left to
    tell. Not to me, or anyone else.

    Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that. But we're a minority. Millions of
    copies of his biographies have sold. Those were WAY longer than your one
    sentence synopsis. So lots of people have bought into a much larger story
    than you allow for or I care about. Hollywood can only make things worse.
    I cannot imagine what kind of [censored] they are likely to pack around the
    story as filler. No way would I pay to watch that.

    I WOULD pay to see a film of Brian Lafferty tied to a chair and being
    forced to watch it, however. That would be entertaining!

    Only if the sound track is Beethoven's 9th.

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