Lance and them pedals

flyingdutch said:

OK so what's with LA pullin his cleats all the time* ?

*'All the time' comprises that mountain stage after he fell with Mayo
and then fell a 2nd time due to pullin his pedals and at the start of
this year's TdF comin off the starting ramp

is it the pedals or what?

my eggbeaters are lookin better all the time...

What pedals does he use? I've not pulled out of pedals since
I used to use toe-straps. This led to me having an off during
one of my few RR. Pulled out going up a hill (twice) and got
dropped. Was going like the clappers to catch the bunch, took
a corner too fast, left lots of skin from left leg, elbow and
palm on road. I was so soft, I pulled out of the race (another
DNF).

DeF

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flyingdutch said:

OK so what's with LA pullin his cleats all the time* ?

*'All the time' comprises that mountain stage after he fell with Mayo and then fell a 2nd time due to pullin his pedals and at the start of this year's TdF comin off the starting ramp

is it the pedals or what?

my eggbeaters are lookin better all the time...

They are a shimano/bontrager team? Bontrager has no pedals ASFAIK so could be shimano pedals?

"flyingdutch" wrote in message...

Quoted message said:

is it the pedals or what?

my eggbeaters are lookin better all the time...

Given the namesake... maybe these..?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/?id=2002/reviews/lance_pedal

I lloovveee my spd-sl's on the roadie... so much so that I've ordered an
upgrade (yay probikekit's 10% off sale, cheers for the heads up 'till), so I
can stick my current spd-sl's on the mtb..

I cant stand the small spd cleaty thing, I have pulled out of these twice,
and both times almost ended up with a knee though my chin.. I never ride the
mtb offroad.. it is used purely for CTT'ing... so spd-sl's on it shouldn't
be a problem... might even wear my 'queer eye' Diadora shoes on a BR since
they'll have roadie cleats 😉

cheers,
GPL
:answer - Commute Time Trialing: 🙂

DeF said:

flyingdutch said:

OK so what's with LA pullin his cleats all the time* ?

*'All the time' comprises that mountain stage after he fell with Mayo
and then fell a 2nd time due to pullin his pedals and at the start of
this year's TdF comin off the starting ramp

is it the pedals or what?

my eggbeaters are lookin better all the time...

What pedals does he use?

Shimano SPD-SL, although with a non-standard cleat -
they're normally black

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/tour05/tech/?id=round-up2/cntdf05-lance_shoe2

FWIW, I've only ever pulled out of an SPD-SL when the cleats
and pedals were about totally rooted, and none of my
riders (that I know of) have done so either.

Claes said:

They are a shimano/bontrager team? Bontrager has no pedals ASFAIK so could be shimano pedals?

doesn't -SL stand for Shimano Lance ?

Carl Brewer said:

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:16:25 +0800, DeF

Quoted message said:

flyingdutch said:

OK so what's with LA pullin his cleats all the time* ?

*'All the time' comprises that mountain stage after he fell with Mayo
and then fell a 2nd time due to pullin his pedals and at the start of
this year's TdF comin off the starting ramp

is it the pedals or what?

my eggbeaters are lookin better all the time...

What pedals does he use?

Shimano SPD-SL, although with a non-standard cleat -
they're normally black

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/tour05/tech/?id=round-up2/cntdf05-lance_shoe2

FWIW, I've only ever pulled out of an SPD-SL when the cleats
and pedals were about totally rooted, and none of my
riders (that I know of) have done so either.

No disrespect you or your riders, but one could assume that Lance is stronger than any of you? 🙂

flyingdutch said:

OK so what's with LA pullin his cleats all the time* ?

*'All the time' comprises that mountain stage after he fell with Mayo
and then fell a 2nd time due to pullin his pedals and at the start of
this year's TdF comin off the starting ramp

is it the pedals or what?

my eggbeaters are lookin better all the time...

I suspect its horsepower (lancepower) 🙂

Have managed it a couple of times with worn out pedals myself.. I must
admit I came a lot closer to crashing than lance did.

"Carl Brewer" wrote

Quoted message said:

Shimano SPD-SL, although with a non-standard cleat -
they're normally black

Just wish they made an SPD-SL cleat with10 degrees float! I stuffed up and
changed over to SPD-SL thinking they had plus\minus 6 degrees float, not
realising it is actually 6 degrees total. With my wonky legs 6 degrees
just aint enough! I had the old Time cleat system (from about 10 years ago)
and when it was time to replace decided on SPD-SL because they were cheaper.
Looks like I will just need to cough up for Time after all. Just need to
find the $$$. Perhaps Look would be ok with 9 degrees?

BruceA

(not really asking any questions, just having a moan about my own
foolishness)

no seriously. I was carving my initials in the moose with the sharpened end
of an interspace toothbrush given me by Svenge my brother in law, a dentist
and star of many a Norwegian film such as fillings of passion and . . . . .
can't remember any more . . . .

flyingdutch said:

OK so what's with LA pullin his cleats all the time* ?

*'All the time' comprises that mountain stage after he fell with Mayo and then fell a 2nd time due to pullin his pedals and at the start of this year's TdF comin off the starting ramp

is it the pedals or what?

my eggbeaters are lookin better all the time...

I remember seing some track race, could it have been olympics maybe? Anyway, a trackie starting from "blocks" snaps the TWO straps that is holding his foot to the pedal. Now, what is seriously strong legs. 🙂 His legs were probably the same circuference as my chest. 🙂

Claes said:

Quoted message said:

FWIW, I've only ever pulled out of an SPD-SL when the cleats
and pedals were about totally rooted, and none of my
riders (that I know of) have done so either.

No disrespect you or your riders, but one could assume that Lance is
stronger than any of you? 🙂

In all seriousness, and in context,
not really. In terms of absolute power it's quite
possible that some of the people I coach (and possibly me
too, I don't know for sure) can put out more or very similar
power. We can't sustain it for very long though, which is
the difference. Remember there's a *huge*
difference between peak power (which can be well over 1200 or more
watts) and a world class time trial or hillclimbing effort - which is
around 400-500 watts. Most normal people can put out around
the same peak power (within certain limits of course) as a top
class road cyclist for a few pedal strokes. Trackies are
a bit different, they put out *serious* power - I heard
around 2000watts peak for top sprinters? can any trackies
confirm?

dave said:

flyingdutch said:

OK so what's with LA pullin his cleats all the time* ?

*'All the time' comprises that mountain stage after he fell with Mayo
and then fell a 2nd time due to pullin his pedals and at the start of
this year's TdF comin off the starting ramp

is it the pedals or what?

my eggbeaters are lookin better all the time...

I suspect its horsepower (lancepower) 🙂

According to Lance, he reckons that he had his shoe covers
fouling the cleat at the start of this year's ITT. Not a
problem with the pedals per-se, although the
design may well make it easier for that to happen. (from
cyclingnews.com, I can't find the article right now!)

BruceA said:

"Carl Brewer" wrote

Quoted message said:

Shimano SPD-SL, although with a non-standard cleat -
they're normally black

Just wish they made an SPD-SL cleat with10 degrees float! I stuffed up and
changed over to SPD-SL thinking they had plus\minus 6 degrees float, not
realising it is actually 6 degrees total. With my wonky legs 6 degrees
just aint enough! I had the old Time cleat system (from about 10 years ago)
and when it was time to replace decided on SPD-SL because they were cheaper.
Looks like I will just need to cough up for Time after all. Just need to
find the $$$. Perhaps Look would be ok with 9 degrees?

Have you looked at the speedplay cleats? I understand that they
have a -lot- of float.

Carl Brewer said:

Have you looked at the speedplay cleats? I understand that they
have a -lot- of float.

I understand you have to replace cleat AND pedal, to match the wear.

aeek said:

Carl Brewer said:

Have you looked at the speedplay cleats? I understand that they
have a -lot- of float.

I understand you have to replace cleat AND pedal, to match the wear.

No idea, all I know is they have a lot of float. With a metal cleat
too? They may last ages?

Carl Brewer said:

Have you looked at the speedplay cleats? I understand that they
have a -lot- of float.

eggbeater!
just as light
just as much clearance huge amounts of float, or less without having to buy new cleats (you swap em around between shoes and the float alters. now thats good design)
you can lube/grease em eazy-peazy with supplied greasegun-thingy
you can buy build kits to re-do bearings etc very cheaply
and you wont fall [censored]-over-[censored] as you walk into cafe to get your latte 😄
and they actually hold firmer the more you pull up
and are insanely easy to get into/out of
We could eliminate all 'clipless pedal-help' threads on here if all newbies got 'beaters

F"would it be wrong to rock up to a RR/crit with 'beaters?"Dutch

flyingdutch said:

F"would it be wrong to rock up to a RR/crit with 'beaters?"Dutch

Not at all! Just start rocking up to them 🙂

METEC is this Sunday ....

Carl Brewer said:

Quoted message said:

F"would it be wrong to rock up to a RR/crit with 'beaters?"Dutch

Not at all! Just start rocking up to them 🙂

METEC is this Sunday ....

dude, we aint married (are we???) stop the nagging already 😄

im getting there, slowly. almost talked myself having a go at Kew this Sunday but common sense prevailed. One day of hard standing-climbing a crit does not make...

Besides, doesnt METEC have a righthand turn?

F"counterclockwise"Dutch

flyingdutch said:

Carl Brewer said:

Quoted message said:

F"would it be wrong to rock up to a RR/crit with

'beaters?"Dutch

Not at all! Just start rocking up to them 🙂

METEC is this Sunday ....

dude, we aint married (are we???) stop the nagging already 😄

yap yap yap!

Quoted message said:

im getting there, slowly. almost talked myself having a go at Kew this
Sunday but common sense prevailed. One day of hard standing-climbing a
crit does not make...

Besides, doesnt METEC have a righthand turn?

yep, a lovely sweeper 🙂 and a little hill, and it's *always*
windy there.

you would have loved Phillip Island - it was a fantastic
race course, and really really safe 🙂

Da Dutchy said:

huge amounts of float

What's the fascination everyone seems to have with float? Geez, when I were young, ya cleat was a fscking thingy with a slot in it, which engaged with the back of the pedal. Looks never had float, until they brought out the silly red cleats in response to SPDs. Now every time I buy a pair of Look pedals they come with yet another bloody set of red cleats, which I chuck in the box with all the others.

When I ride on pedals with float, it feels like I'm standing on a ball bearing. I really hate the feeling of my foot flopping around all over the place when I pedal.

Pedals without float are the go - so my bikes will always have Looks.

Cheers,

Suzy