Lance = 460 W

mr_no said:

in french :

http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=224595&AG

*wonders about the percentage readers of this newsgroup who can't read
French*

-km

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proud to be owned by a yorkie
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the black rose said:

mr_no said:

in french :

http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=224595&AG

*wonders about the percentage readers of this newsgroup who can't read
French*

Use Bable Fish:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/

--Don--
The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Don Wagner said:

the black rose said:

mr_no said:

in french :

http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=224595&AG

*wonders about the percentage readers of this newsgroup who can't read
French*

Use Bable Fish:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/

--Don--
The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Amusing results. Here's the translation it came up with (I particularly
like the line, "US Postal rinsed its world before the foot."😉:

Nothing can cure the silly thing, not even l'expérience. C'est confirmed
by speed and the joule. That started in Liege with a head of red bull
placarded to sublimate the currency of the province: "Let us force to
l'avenir." The organizers introduced a member of subsidized CNRS,
guarantee of the performances. After l'urine in 2000, blood will be
frozen. One trembles. Mow, condoms NF of controls are perforated: some
could gaver like white geese and to manufacture engines twelve cylinders
except standards before the Outer Loop. Small about thirty days in
competition, spaced cures moreover d'un month for an assimilation with
the veterinary products and oxygenating muscle. The owner of the Turn
which n'en also has cure declared: "It was necessary to sink: let us sink."

The runners said OK. Head lowered vis-a-vis with the wind, they
transformed the bicycle into a sport with veil and vapor. After the
demonstration "singing in the rain" with 53,71 km/h of the Corvettes of
l'US Postal with against-the-shows by teams, the ride of 202 km without
tiredness of Virenque (35 years) with its Porsche regulated better qu'à
l'ère Festina, Ferrari d'Armstrong is with 41,6 km/h of average.
Jean-Marie Leblanc said in 1997: "In the fight antidopage, there is
always a train of delay. Since three or four years, one was always
mistaken on calculation in average the schedules on the Lathe.
Aujourd'hui, I include/understand better. L'EPO, c'est three
kilomètres/heure of better. Our traditional reference marks were
disturbed. This year, that perhaps will change with blood controls." It
n'en has anything be, on the contrary.

They n'ont ceased d'augmenter jusqu'au extravagant record of l'an last
(40,94 km/h) where five stages of high mountain were traversed with more
than 36 km/h of average (including three the best of all times). Only
nine stages had crossed this limit in fifteen years. The records still
explode this year with the large train where the things go. We predict
one 41,23 km/h in Paris if the word n'est not passed with the group to
slow down, which is possible within sight of the Hollywood scenarios
assembled since the departure.

What changed, they are not mentalities but the speech. It would be since
six years l'état roads and technologies which would have extremely
evolved/moved: new inept explanation. A profit d'un kilo on a bicycle
does not save qu'une miserable about fifteen second on a slope of 10 km
to 7 %. the bicycles into 1998 made almost the same weight. The road
bituminized with nine on Ventoux and a revolutionary framework n'ont not
prevented Armstrong from losing two minutes on Mayo in June. C'est
l'état of the muscle which is sovereign, the globule. Audiard said:
"known J'ai of the false-bottoms, but you you are a synthesis."

It is possible to uncover trickery indirectly: developed powers. They
are easily calculable in the collars referred through ages and
champions, adulterated or not. Whatever meteorology, l'état of the road,
the conditions of race, l'époque, one can quantify to Watts the
performances of the cyclists compared to their stoutness and their times
boardings. And to compare them (1).

S'il had had a change of manners there, we n'aurions not attended such a
rise of l'Aspin: 40 Eddy Merckx of the time of its splendour (in
athletic equivalence) followed the specialist American wheeler in
Paris-Roubaix, Hincapie, by pushing 435 Watts under the rain! A "human"
limit of 410 Watts would have been more reassuring. The record in time
which Virenque (32' held; 30" in 1995 when Casartelli fell and died to
l'arrière) was pulverized of 2'20".

C'est by far the largest collective exploit in a number of runners and
developed power of all times to approach a first collar of the Turn. We
do not n'aurions considering either Armstrong with Basso to beat its own
record of the rise of Mongie (2002 Beloki front) of 45" in 23' 15" from
the village of Gripp: 460 Watts provided. Better qu'à Sestrières 99 (422
W during 28'😉, qu'à Hautacam in 2000 (449 W during 36'😉, qu'à Hoot in
2001 (442 W during 38'😉, qu'à Luz in 2003 (442 W during 35'😉. Just
behind one arrived flopée of surpuissants abnormal which n'ont not
worried Lance. Consequently, not n'était need to awake to it dead
Pantani and to bate to him its morbid record of the rise of the plate of
Beille (43' 30" for 21,93 km/h with 437 W). L'US Postal rinsed its world
before the foot. To ensure 2' 10" late robber of time by beating his own
personal record for 415 W after six hours of bicycle and seven collars
was enough. The really clear runners were disseminated with the six
corners of l'Hexagone, puzzle kind. A bicycle at the multiple speeds.
Those which still cheat make it better and better.

(1) to compare, Watts in l'article are those d'un runner which would
weigh with its equipment 78 kg. They are not real Watts of l'individu
but extrapolated Watts of this "standard" achieving the same performance.

--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

the black rose wrote:
:: Don Wagner wrote:
::: the black rose <[email hidden]> wrote:
:::
:::
:::: mr_no wrote:
::::
::::: in french :
:::::
::::: http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=224595&AG
::::
:::: *wonders about the percentage readers of this newsgroup who can't
:::: read French*
:::
:::
::: Use Bable Fish:
::: http://babelfish.altavista.com/
:::
:::
::: --Don--
::: The beatings will continue until morale improves.
::
:: Amusing results. Here's the translation it came up with (I
:: particularly like the line, "US Postal rinsed its world before the
:: foot."😉:
::

bable in, bable out.

the black rose a écrit :

Quoted message said:

*wonders about the percentage readers of this newsgroup who can't read
French*

-km

make an effort and repeat after me :
«tour de France»
«maillot jaune»

As a cyclist, you should know that french is an official language for the
UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale - International Cyclist Union) :-p

Didn't you notice I summed up the article for you in the title of the
message : Lance = 460 W .

The author notices that human limit is 410 watt, and that 40 runners - 40
Eddy Merckx of the time of its splendour (in athletic equivalence) -
followed Hincapie developping 435 watt under the rain in the climbing of
the col d'Aspin.

the black rose a écrit :

Quoted message said:

*wonders about the percentage readers of this newsgroup who can't read
French*

-km

make an effort and repeat after me :
«tour de France»
«maillot jaune»

As a cyclist, you should know that french is an official language for the
UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale - International Cyclist Union) :-p

Didn't you notice I summed up the article for you in the title of the
message : Lance = 460 W .

The author notices that human limit is 410 watt, and that 40 runners - 40
Eddy Merckx of the time of its splendour (in athletic equivalence) -
followed Hincapie developping 435 watt under the rain in the climbing of
the col d'Aspin.

Quoted message said:

Didn't you notice I summed up the article for you in the title of the
message : Lance = 460 W .

The author notices that human limit is 410 watt, and that 40 runners - 40
Eddy Merckx of the time of its splendour (in athletic equivalence) -
followed Hincapie developping 435 watt under the rain in the climbing of
the col d'Aspin.

And where does the idea of a 410-watt "human limit" come from? Magnus
Backstedt (sorry if I botched his name), at over 200 pounds, had to develop
one heck of a lot more "watts" than a lightweight like Heras, riding at the
same speed. And George Hincapie is no tiny guy either!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

mr_no said:

the black rose a écrit :

Quoted message said:

*wonders about the percentage readers of this newsgroup who can't read
French*

-km

make an effort and repeat after me :
«tour de France»
«maillot jaune»

As a cyclist, you should know that french is an official language for the
UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale - International Cyclist Union) :-p

Um, sorry cookie. Just because I ride a bike doesn't mean I'm
knowledgeable about pro cycling or conversant with pro cycling culture.
There should probably be a law against allowing people like me to even
own a bicycle.

Quoted message said:

Didn't you notice I summed up the article for you in the title of the
message : Lance = 460 W .

Sure I noticed the thread title. And it made no sense at all to me.
I've known about power meters for, oh, a month or so. Not owning one,
not knowing anyone who does, I know practically nothing about them.

Quoted message said:

The author notices that human limit is 410 watt, and that 40 runners - 40
Eddy Merckx of the time of its splendour (in athletic equivalence) -
followed Hincapie developping 435 watt under the rain in the climbing of
the col d'Aspin.

I would be very interested in finding out who came up with this 410W
limit and how he arrived at it, because it sounds very much like every
other limit I've ever heard applied to human athletic ability: made to
be broken. (Remember when everyone believed the "human limit" to run a
mile was 4 minutes?)

-km

--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

L'homme qui a vu l'homme said:

the black rose a écrit :

Quoted message said:

*wonders about the percentage readers of this newsgroup who can't read
French*

-km

make an effort and repeat after me :
«tour de France»
«maillot jaune»

Vuelta a España

Jersey Oro

¡Hay que echar siempre para adelante, compañero!

Quoted message said:

As a cyclist, you should know that french is an official language for the
UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale - International Cyclist Union) :-p

As it is also one of the official and working languages of the United
Nations. I seem to remember that there was one international
conference recently where the President of the Ukraine--usually a
close friend of the United States--had taken a political position
contrary to Washington's. Now, since the official language of the
conference had up to then been English, the American (United States)
and Ukranian delegations would have sat very close to each other on
the table. This would have been awkward, considering the brief chill
in their relationship.

The U.S., in order to register its displeasure with the recent shift
in Ukrainian policy, then moved to change the official language of the
proceedings to French. Naturally, this moved their delegation (Etats
Unis) far away from the Ukraine at the roundtable.

Even Ugly Americans recognize the beauty and utility of the French
language, from time to time. :-)

Quoted message said:

Didn't you notice I summed up the article for you in the title of the
message : Lance = 460 W .

The author notices that human limit is 410 watt, and that 40 runners - 40
Eddy Merckx of the time of its splendour (in athletic equivalence) -
followed Hincapie developping 435 watt under the rain in the climbing of
the col d'Aspin.

It's rather an interesting article. My French is lamentably in awful
shape, and I only got the gist of it--the author's admiration for the
efforts of the cyclists (or is that his disbelief at their abilities?)
shines through. I had worried that the headline read "EQUAL TO FORTY
EDDY MERCKX" and that somehow it was going to claim that Lance's
output was 40 times that of The Cannibal....

Looks like I need to go rent more French films and improve my
French...

-Luigi