Laetrile

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html

Laetrile pushers are murders, IMNSHO.

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html

Just watch out for the side effects...like increased tumor size and cyanide
poisoning.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html
"The results of the trial were clear-cut. Not one patient was cured or even
stabilized. The median survival rate was 4.8 months from the start of
therapy, and in those still alive after seven months, tumor size had
increased. This was the expected result for patients receiving no treatment
at all. In addition, several patients experienced symptoms of cyanide
toxicity or had blood levels of cyanide approaching the lethal range [7]. "

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote...

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http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html

Away with thee, unholy troll! First it was your magic homeopathic
herbal vitamin potions, now you have resurrected the beast known
as laetrile that was slain nearly 30 years ago. I won't even
bother clicking on your link, I know all about laetrile and it is
just the most perfect example of snake oil and the vermin who
peddle the stuff.

"CWatters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

http://www.whale.to/p/quacks.html

Quackwatch (Operated by Stephen Barrett, M.D.) affiliate of the National
Council Against Health Fraud. National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF)
http://www.hcrc.org/ncahf/ncahf.html Committee For The Scientific
Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP) http://www.csicop.org/
(CSICOP Fellow--Dr Barrett) Magazine---Skeptical Inquirer

Dr Victor Herbert, Stephen Barrett and William Jarvis are on the Scientific
Board of the American Council on Science and Health. Founded in 1978, this
organisation is funded solely by the large pharmaceutical and chemical
companies, the AMA and industry supported Foundations.

Don't like that source John?

Try this one...

The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine

http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/9_3.htm

"Laboratory and animal studies have shown little evidence that laetrile is
effective against cancer."

"...little evidence to support laetrile as a treatment for cancer."

"All of the patients showed cancer progression 7 months after completing
treatment. "

"The side effects associated with laetrile treatment are like the symptoms
of cyanide poisoning. "

"The symptoms include nausea and vomiting, headache, dizziness, bluish
discoloration of the skin due to a lack of oxygen in the blood, liver
damage, abnormally low blood pressure, droopy upper eyelid, difficulty
walking due to damaged nerves, fever, mental confusion, coma, and death."

The side effects can be increased by....<snip> ... or taking high doses of
vitamin C.

"CWatters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Don't like that source John?

You think the medical mafia don't have a cover story for laetrile? You may
be asleep but some of us woke up years ago

Contreras has been using it for 30 years
http://www.whale.to/a/laetrile_p.html so I guess the Mexican government are
in on the fraud too

"Michael Myers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1oswd.1447

I won't even

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bother clicking on your link, I know all about laetrile and it is
just the most perfect example of snake oil and the vermin who
peddle the stuff.

Truth a bit hard to handle, I can sympathise

Real snake oil peddlars http://www.whale.to/a/hoaxmed.html

"CWatters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html

Just watch out for the side effects...like increased tumor size and

cyanide

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poisoning.

Death is also a well known side effect of this [censored].

Angry relatives, who learn of this scam after the death can also be
hazardous to the sellers w/health.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

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"The results of the trial were clear-cut. Not one patient was cured or

even

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stabilized. The median survival rate was 4.8 months from the start of
therapy, and in those still alive after seven months, tumor size had
increased. This was the expected result for patients receiving no

treatment

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at all. In addition, several patients experienced symptoms of cyanide
toxicity or had blood levels of cyanide approaching the lethal range [7].

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"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"CWatters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Don't like that source John?

You think the medical mafia don't have a cover story for laetrile? You

may

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be asleep but some of us woke up years ago

You woke up in La-La Land.

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Contreras has been using it for 30 years
http://www.whale.to/a/laetrile_p.html so I guess the Mexican government

are

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in on the fraud too

"Michael Myers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"john" <[email hidden]> wrote...

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http://www.whale.to/cancer/laetrile.html

Away with thee, unholy troll! First it was your magic homeopathic
herbal vitamin potions, now you have resurrected the beast known
as laetrile that was slain nearly 30 years ago. I won't even
bother clicking on your link, I know all about laetrile and it is
just the most perfect example of snake oil and the vermin who
peddle the stuff.

This is the jerk you are responding to:

http://pages.ivillage.com/vaccinesupport/antivaxsites/whale.html

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote...

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Contreras has been using it for 30 years
http://www.whale.to/a/laetrile_p.html so I guess the Mexican government are
in on the fraud too

OMG, you absolutely DESTROYED your argument when you brought in the Mexican
government. I've lived on the Mexican border much of my life (still do)
and while I doubt you've read anything I've posted to the Mexico-related
newsgroups, the recurring theme is that the Mexican government is corrupt
to the core, not even a real "government" at all but a criminal mafia-like
syndicate that has robbed the country blind. I've paid visits to Mexican
"doctors," and like their government (who granted them their UNAM public
university degrees and licenses them), they are also corrupt to the core
and many extremely incompetent (I go to them because they write
prescreeptions for controlled substances like candy, surely evidence of
standards of Mexican medical ethics).

Mexican government in on the fraud? Naturally. Please keep in mind that
this is a country whose entire police forces, military as well as high
ranking generals, and even the president of Mexico himself have been
discovered to be on the payroll of drug cartels. This is a country where
government officials have stolen literally billions of dollars in public
resources, funnelling some into personal secret Swiss bank accounts and
using some to illegally fund the ruling party's political machine to
rig elections in their favor. The moment you brought Mexico into it, you
doomed your argument in favor of Laetrile.

"Michael Myers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LTRwd.2965

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Mexican government in on the fraud? Naturally. Please keep in mind that
this is a country whose entire police forces, military as well as high
ranking generals, and even the president of Mexico himself have been
discovered to be on the payroll of drug cartels. This is a country where
government officials have stolen literally billions of dollars in public
resources, funnelling some into personal secret Swiss bank accounts and
using some to illegally fund the ruling party's political machine to
rig elections in their favor. The moment you brought Mexico into it, you
doomed your argument in favor of Laetrile.

Just like our own except ours just funnells it into Corporations
http://www.whale.to/a/cartels_h.html

and the biggest drug dealer on the planet is Kissinger as Dope Inc proved,
as if we all didn't know anyway http://www.whale.to/b/drug_war.html

so I don't think your argument holds much water, as there isn't any
difference in the governments, ours just rob us more covertly, bandits in
white collars I call them

and the biggest robber is the pharma industry
http://www.whale.to/a/hoaxmed.html

"Michael Myers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"john" <[email hidden]> wrote...

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Contreras has been using it for 30 years
http://www.whale.to/a/laetrile_p.html so I guess the Mexican government

are

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in on the fraud too

OMG, you absolutely DESTROYED your argument when you brought in the

Mexican

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government.

John the owner of the whale.to website never has an argument worth
destroying because they are not worth believing in the first place. The
whale.to website has been criticized as the entire internets leading
suppository of mis- and false information.

I've lived on the Mexican border much of my life (still do)

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and while I doubt you've read anything I've posted to the Mexico-related
newsgroups, the recurring theme is that the Mexican government is corrupt
to the core, not even a real "government" at all but a criminal mafia-like
syndicate that has robbed the country blind. I've paid visits to Mexican
"doctors," and like their government (who granted them their UNAM public
university degrees and licenses them), they are also corrupt to the core
and many extremely incompetent (I go to them because they write
prescreeptions for controlled substances like candy, surely evidence of
standards of Mexican medical ethics).

Mexican government in on the fraud? Naturally. Please keep in mind that
this is a country whose entire police forces, military as well as high
ranking generals, and even the president of Mexico himself have been
discovered to be on the payroll of drug cartels. This is a country where
government officials have stolen literally billions of dollars in public
resources, funnelling some into personal secret Swiss bank accounts and
using some to illegally fund the ruling party's political machine to
rig elections in their favor. The moment you brought Mexico into it, you
doomed your argument in favor of Laetrile.

Interesting, one of the most infamous health care frauds, Hulda Clark, has a
clinic in Tiajuana. Recently, like earlier this month, Hulda's Henchmen
stipulated that they can no longer sell her gadgets, gizmos and goos in the
US with any form of health care intent. Interestingly, there is a picture
someone took of her "clinic" which shows a car from a local mortuary. Do you
know if morticians split fees with large referrers in Mexico?