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  1. "I didn't know!"

    "I ate candy from my dentist."

    "My birth control must have done it."

    "The product was cross-contaminated."

    "An old friend came in from out of town."

    "The was an earthquake."

    "A terrible flood."

    "It wasn't my fault!"

    "I had a secret surgery recently."

    "My unborn twin is in my belly."

    "I was dehydrated." -This after a morning pre-event screening!

    "The lab was out to get me. Germans, I suspect."

    PUH-leeze!!!! GFYS. Tyler, and all the rest of you dogs.

    crit pro

  2. "hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Hey crit pro, did you ever work in a lab?

    How much smarts does it take to sell and Egg McMuffin?

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    Let me tell you that even the best labs [censored] things up sometimes, and
    (although I certainly am no expert in IOC/WADA testing protocols) I


    strongly

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    suspect that there's not enough money available in the dope testing arena


    to

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    inspire the best labs to pursue the work. Considering this with the fact
    that the IOC and WADA have pursued accelerated implementation of a bunch


    of

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    new tests to get them in place prior to the Olympics, I wouldn't be the
    least surprised to find that some of them haven't been thoroughly tested


    on

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    large populations and, therefore, may be subject to errors. Maybe, just
    maybe, you ought to let the investigation take its course and shut the


    [censored]

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    up for 5 minutes.

    Blood chemistry is an old science. The tests they're using may use a modern
    method but that just makes it more sensitive. There is a small chance that
    Tyler has a somewhat rare condition that can cause him to have two separate
    sub-types of blood. Since the UCI isn't telling anyone precisely what
    they're doing it isn't possible to judge which conditions and how rare they
    are.

    I think it unlikely that Tyler was receiving transfussions to blood pack if
    he was so concerned about transfussions in his dog.

  3. Tom Kunich said:


    I think it unlikely that Tyler was receiving transfussions to blood


    pack if

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    he was so concerned about transfussions in his dog.

    Dumbass -

    Two things:

    1) How do you know he didn't make the concern-for-his-dog story up?
    2) There is no profit/ego gratification motive for transfusing a pet
    dog. There is a profit/ego gratification motive for transfusing the
    athlete. They cannot be compared.

  4. crit pro said:

    "I didn't know!"

    "I ate candy from my dentist."

    "My birth control must have done it."

    "The product was cross-contaminated."

    "An old friend came in from out of town."

    "The was an earthquake."

    "A terrible flood."

    "It wasn't my fault!"

    "I had a secret surgery recently."

    "My unborn twin is in my belly."

    "I was dehydrated." -This after a morning pre-event screening!

    "The lab was out to get me. Germans, I suspect."

    PUH-leeze!!!! GFYS. Tyler, and all the rest of you dogs.

    crit pro

    Three famous ones from recent Track & Field cases:

    "I have a family history of narcolepsy"

    "I have a history of low blood sugar"

    "I blame my nutritionist"

  5. hold my beer and watch this... said:

    I certainly am no expert in IOC/WADA testing protocols

    Oh really? Then, I suggest that

    hold my beer and watch this.. said:

    Maybe, just maybe, you ought to ... shut the [censored] up

    The only people more pitiful than the "Tyler is my hero, he could never dope" crowd are the "I think the labs are to blame" crowd.

    When it comes to doping, some people just can't accept what is right in front of their noses.

  6. "antoineg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "I blame my nutritionist"


    That's been used by at least one cyclist (Bruylandts). He blamed his EPO
    positive on the nutritionist, who he had full confidence in, not a food
    supplement. That's quite a believable excuse.

    Jeff

  7. Jeff Jones schreef:

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    That's been used by at least one cyclist (Bruylandts). He blamed his EPO
    positive on the nutritionist, who he had full confidence in, not a food
    supplement. That's quite a believable excuse.

    a nutritionist...
    like "this injection is loaded with vitamines which will make you fly" ?

    The Brandt Defense ("horse@pharmacist"😉 was more believable and was believed.
    But it was still unprofessional in an unacceptable way.

  8. "Van Hoorebeeck Bart" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    Jeff Jones schreef:

    Quoted message said:


    That's been used by at least one cyclist (Bruylandts). He blamed his EPO
    positive on the nutritionist, who he had full confidence in, not a food
    supplement. That's quite a believable excuse.

    a nutritionist...
    like "this injection is loaded with vitamines which will make you fly" ?


    Well, it depends on how you look at it. A cynical person might think that DB
    and the nutritionist were well aware of what was in the syringe. Someone
    with less of a cynical bent might believe Dave was totally oblivious and was
    merely a victim of an unscrupulous advisor. The beauty of this excuse is
    that it should satisfy both sides: those that believe him guilty as sin and
    those that believe him to be as pure as the driven snow. Like the bible,
    it's all in the interpretation.

    Jeff

  9. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:


    I think it unlikely that Tyler was receiving transfussions to blood


    pack if

    Quoted message said:

    he was so concerned about transfussions in his dog.

    Dumbass -

    Two things:

    1) How do you know he didn't make the concern-for-his-dog story up?
    2) There is no profit/ego gratification motive for transfusing a pet
    dog. There is a profit/ego gratification motive for transfusing the
    athlete. They cannot be compared.

    So there you have it - according to Henry, Tyler is guilty as charged.

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