LA skipping olympics

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Says he wants to spend time with kids.

Translation--Kristin wants him to be a physically present father.

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Guess maybe they'll give that spot to Horner, since he so richly deserves it.

There is a 13 point difference between Fred in 49th in the UCI rankings
and Max Van Heeswijk in 51st. There is a 20 point difference between
taking first and second in a grand tour stage. If Petacchi comes around
Fred in the Giro he falls to 52nd in the UCI rankings and the pick become
discretionary.

There is a 436 point gap between Horner and Fred. A world cup win is worth
240 points, second is 150. So if Horner wins two world cup races this
spring he's in. If he wins one and takes second in another he's still a
little short.

Georgia was a 2.3 race, 100 points for the winner. A Stage winner gets 15,
the race leader gets 5. There were 7 stages so if he'd have won all stages
he'd still be way short.

If he wins every UCI race in the US this spring including Philly I think
he gets it.

So even though he's richly deserving I think Fred has a pretty strong
case too.

Bob Schwartz
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Says he wants to spend time with kids.

Translation--Kristin wants him to be a physically present father.

Or, he just values his ass remaining intact. There are other sports people
who have decided not to go for security reasons.

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Says he wants to spend time with kids.

Translation--Kristin wants him to be a physically present father.

Or, he just values his ass remaining intact. There are other sports people
who have decided not to go for security reasons.

Bob Schwartz said:

Richard Adams said:

Guess maybe they'll give that spot to Horner, since he so richly deserves it.

There is a 13 point difference between Fred in 49th in the UCI rankings
and Max Van Heeswijk in 51st. There is a 20 point difference between
taking first and second in a grand tour stage. If Petacchi comes around
Fred in the Giro he falls to 52nd in the UCI rankings and the pick become
discretionary.

There is a 436 point gap between Horner and Fred. A world cup win is worth
240 points, second is 150. So if Horner wins two world cup races this
spring he's in. If he wins one and takes second in another he's still a
little short.

Georgia was a 2.3 race, 100 points for the winner. A Stage winner gets 15,
the race leader gets 5. There were 7 stages so if he'd have won all stages
he'd still be way short.

If he wins every UCI race in the US this spring including Philly I think
he gets it.

So even though he's richly deserving I think Fred has a pretty strong
case too.

Bob Schwartz
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Nice analysis.

I was being sarcastic regarding Mr. Horner. I think it'd be cool to
have Fred in the Olympics.

I think he's probably going to start training for the World Ch. and maybe
the hour record this winter.

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Says he wants to spend time with kids. Guess maybe they'll give that
spot to Horner, since he so richly deserves it.

UCI points dont mean [censored] when you pick a national team for the
olympics or worlds. Italy finally realized it when Cipo won 2 years
ago, I think we got it Half right with the US team in place. The coach
should have the final word. If I were picking the team McCarthy would
stay home and Horner and fred would be going.

I just dont think McCarthy has the ability. He will most likely get
dropped pretty early on just like most of the domestic guys did worlds
in Hamilton. Horner has shown many times he can ride at the front very
late in very big races. Like Tour of Georga, Hamilton , SFGP ect.

And Fred is by far the fastest guy in the US bar none for years.

Why does everyone Like McCarthy so much???

First of all It's McCartney NOT McCarthy. The reason people like him is
because he is a class act and a great racer. He won't be dropped. He will do
a great job for whomever they need him to support. He didn't win US
selection race by luck. He did win the 5th stage of the Tour of Georgia by
luck He didn't win his other 8 victories this year because he gets dropped
at races. He really is the real deal. We will see at both the Olympics and
the Worlds.

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UCI points dont mean [censored] when you pick a national team for the
olympics or worlds. Italy finally realized it when Cipo won 2 years
ago, I think we got it Half right with the US team in place. The coach
should have the final word. If I were picking the team McCarthy would
stay home and Horner and fred would be going.

I just dont think McCarthy has the ability. He will most likely get
dropped pretty early on just like most of the domestic guys did worlds
in Hamilton. Horner has shown many times he can ride at the front very
late in very big races. Like Tour of Georga, Hamilton , SFGP ect.

And Fred is by far the fastest guy in the US bar none for years.

Why does everyone Like McCarthy so much???

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Quoted message said:

UCI points dont mean [censored] when you pick a national team for the
olympics or worlds. Italy finally realized it when Cipo won 2 years
ago, I think we got it Half right with the US team in place. The coach
should have the final word. If I were picking the team McCarthy would
stay home and Horner and fred would be going.

I just dont think McCarthy has the ability. He will most likely get
dropped pretty early on just like most of the domestic guys did worlds
in Hamilton. Horner has shown many times he can ride at the front very
late in very big races. Like Tour of Georga, Hamilton , SFGP ect.
And Fred is by far the fastest guy in the US bar none for years.
Why does everyone Like McCarthy so much???

Are you living in 1996 or something?
Jason McCartney won USCF Champs. He beat FredRod even.
Jason McCartney (Health Net) won on June 19, 2004.

Results
1 Jason McCartney (Health Net p/b Maxxis) 5.09.57
2 Adam Bergman (Jelly Belly/Aramark) 1.01
3 David Zabriskie (US Postal - Berry Floor) 1.05
4 Fred Rodriguez (Aqua Sapone-Caffe Mokambo) 1.07
5 Antonio Cruz (US Postal - Berry Floor)

-Ken

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Quoted message said:

UCI points dont mean [censored] when you pick a national team for the
olympics or worlds. Italy finally realized it when Cipo won 2 years
ago, I think we got it Half right with the US team in place. The coach
should have the final word. If I were picking the team McCarthy would
stay home and Horner and fred would be going.

I just dont think McCarthy has the ability. He will most likely get
dropped pretty early on just like most of the domestic guys did worlds
in Hamilton. Horner has shown many times he can ride at the front very
late in very big races. Like Tour of Georga, Hamilton , SFGP ect.
And Fred is by far the fastest guy in the US bar none for years.
Why does everyone Like McCarthy so much???

Are you living in 1996 or something?
Jason McCartney won USCF Champs. He beat FredRod even.
Jason McCartney (Health Net) won on June 19, 2004.

Results
1 Jason McCartney (Health Net p/b Maxxis) 5.09.57
2 Adam Bergman (Jelly Belly/Aramark) 1.01
3 David Zabriskie (US Postal - Berry Floor) 1.05
4 Fred Rodriguez (Aqua Sapone-Caffe Mokambo) 1.07
5 Antonio Cruz (US Postal - Berry Floor)

-Ken

Yes, and Fred Rodriguez was the first American across the line and thus the
American USPRO Champ.

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Quoted message said:

UCI points dont mean [censored] when you pick a national team for the
olympics or worlds. Italy finally realized it when Cipo won 2 years
ago, I think we got it Half right with the US team in place. The coach
should have the final word. If I were picking the team McCarthy would
stay home and Horner and fred would be going.

I just dont think McCarthy has the ability. He will most likely get
dropped pretty early on just like most of the domestic guys did worlds
in Hamilton. Horner has shown many times he can ride at the front very
late in very big races. Like Tour of Georga, Hamilton , SFGP ect.
And Fred is by far the fastest guy in the US bar none for years.
Why does everyone Like McCarthy so much???

Are you living in 1996 or something?
Jason McCartney won USCF Champs. He beat FredRod even.
Jason McCartney (Health Net) won on June 19, 2004.

Results
1 Jason McCartney (Health Net p/b Maxxis) 5.09.57
2 Adam Bergman (Jelly Belly/Aramark) 1.01
3 David Zabriskie (US Postal - Berry Floor) 1.05
4 Fred Rodriguez (Aqua Sapone-Caffe Mokambo) 1.07
5 Antonio Cruz (US Postal - Berry Floor)

-Ken