In article <[email hidden]>, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> landotter wrote: > > ... > > If they want your bike, it's easy enough to pop any lock short of the > > most heavy and hardened NYC models. Trick is to remove the "want". > > When I had a Brodie Energy city bike last year, strangers would ask me > > "dude, how much was that" as it had an air of exoticness (this *is* > > Tennessee) and they'd drool. Sold it and bought a Redline 925 last > > fall and a Kona Dew with fenders/racks/stand this fall. The dudes at > > the liquor store keep asking me where my "cool" bike is, meaning the > > Brodie. The only person who's commented on the Kona is a Korean native > > that said, "well, that looks practical" and she's not a thief. :-P
It's the LP vs. disk brake thing. Amusingly, the le-cheap LP Tektros on the Kona are far nicer feeling than the [censored] Deore cable discs on the Brodie. The Brodie also had pretty radically ovalized tubes, which looked quite fancy in person.
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My own choice for theft resistance is 25-year-old touring bikes, which are terribly practical city vehicles and are unattractive to all but the most ridiculously clueless junkies.
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The supply of such, especially in a 60cm version, is impossible to find in these parts. I'd have been perfectly happy with a barn fresh 87 Miyata with full accessories. As it was, the Kona was the cheapest bike at the LBS that didn't make me cringe. After a couple nights of tweaking, repacking, and tensioning, it's probably a more reliable ride than the "Dr. Dew" at over twice the price. Assembly is far more important than component silkscreening these days--well, for a utility bike.
Fair enough! Mine is a Miyata 210, the unloved 27"-wheel version, triple-butting and all. It's probably early 80s by the components (pre-index Shimano).
For Christmas, I rebuilt my mom's '85 Miyata 912 with Ergos and a Triple, since she said she had only ridden it on the trainer for the last 5-7 years. Her gripe was that the gearing was too high and she didn't like downtube shifters.
When I was reassembling it the night of the 23rd, I was marvelling at the quality of that frame's construction. It could easily sit next to any modern lugged steel frame not made by Waterford.
FWIW, the parts I pulled off were 600EX-6207, the first group with Shimano's current cable pull ratio. Nice stuff. She still has the headset, front hub and brakes.
Mom really liked the refit and is looking forward to the ice melting.
"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I watched a thief break a Kryptonite on someone's Cannondale in a few seconds. Guy jumped out of a pickup, jammed an 8 foot 2x4 between the lock & the signpost to which it was locked, twisted it, snapped the lock, grabbed the bike & jumped into the back of the waiting pickup, which zipped away.
Well, I have not seen it here yet but Kryptonite does insure the lock and bike for $2500(depending on which lock) So who loses, they do.
Thus you get the better lock and better insurance and who cares? except Kryptonite. how do you shoot holes in that? If it is so dear to you maybe you should carry it with you. I know some people would. I have an Evolution and New Yorker because I have 2 bikes I do not want to part with. the lock the lock does not work like that anyway Tom K. once you brake the main then the cable means nothing. I use the cable to U lock for the quick release front wheel.
i have to admit taking a bike--absolutely beautiful mtb leaning agaisnt building in the middle of manhattan--no locks nada--walked away with it and owner came out of shop screaming and yelling--i talked my self out of the encounter and felt like [censored] ever since it was a true learning experience in wants and needs.
once in bay ridge ny someone left an absolutly unused schwinn probably from the 50's with horn under top bar--it was left for trash ( very common incidently in upper middle class neighboorhoods)--it was there for 3 days--i had do place to keep it and just left it there till i said this is crazy and went to pick it up--it was gone with the trash--hopefully it is being used bys omeone who loves it--i was planning to ask if it was ok to take it
"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nK4fj.11865$tK5.116@trndny03...
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i have to admit taking a bike--absolutely beautiful mtb leaning agaisnt building in the middle of manhattan--no locks nada--walked away with it and owner came out of shop screaming and yelling--i talked my self out of the encounter and felt like [censored] ever since it was a true learning experience in wants and needs.
You do not need what you cannot buy yourself, idiot Hope you are doing volunteer work for that or replace it with something better.
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once in bay ridge ny someone left an absolutly unused schwinn probably from the 50's with horn under top bar--it was left for trash ( very common incidently in upper middle class neighboorhoods)--it was there for 3 days--i had do place to keep it and just left it there till i said this is crazy and went to pick it up--it was gone with the trash--hopefully it is being used bys omeone who loves it--i was planning to ask if it was ok to take it
"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:j4ggj.1062$hS.471@trnddc08...
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encounter and felt like [censored] ever since it was a true learning experience in wants and needs.
forgot to say--owner caught up with me after 20 feet and rightfully cursed me out.
one factor to keep in mind--no one repeat no one leaves a bike un locked on 42nd street here in nyc-- ( still no excuse for what i did)
tia peter
Did he say why he would not lock it in such a place. too strange eh Do cyclists in NYC have any success with a security lock alarm on their bike? I have one on my motorcycle and they have the same for disc brake bikes and maybe regular bikes. You have to use them with another lock for the frame.