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Beener said:

Is ISIS, ISIS, is ISIS not ISIS, is KOXX ISIS really ISIS, is Kris Holm
ISIS more ISIS than KOXX ISIS, ISISISISISIS.

Who the hell cares. Koxx ISIS splined is by far more crank and hub than
I will ever be able to ride. Nathan had a problem, but it was fixed
quickly and never been anything further. I am a 200 pounder and I have
had no problem. I love my KOXX-1 cranks and hub and I don't understand
who the hell would buy a moment hub and put Qu-ax cranks on it or try
to put Koxx cranks on a moment hub or put anything Kris holm anywhere
near Koxx-1 or Qu-ax anyway without risking spontaneous internal
combustion. They are all fine in thier own respsct and weren't ment to
be interchanged in the first place so who cares what fits what.
Just my $0.02

Dude, you missing ::the whole point of ISIS even existing.:: The point
of having an ISIS hub is so that you can switch out cranks whenever you
want and whatnot. They ARE meant to be interchanged.

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yea isis mean international slined interface *STANDARD*

so everything is standardised and you can have any isis cranks you want
on any isis hub. so far everyone has got it right except koxx.

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Beener said:

Is ISIS, ISIS, is ISIS not ISIS, is KOXX ISIS really ISIS, is Kris Holm
ISIS more ISIS than KOXX ISIS, ISISISISISIS.

Who the hell cares. Koxx ISIS splined is by far more crank and hub than
I will ever be able to ride. Nathan had a problem, but it was fixed
quickly and never been anything further. I am a 200 pounder and I have
had no problem. I love my KOXX-1 cranks and hub and I don't understand
who the hell would buy a moment hub and put Qu-ax cranks on it or try
to put Koxx cranks on a moment hub or put anything Kris holm anywhere
near Koxx-1 or Qu-ax anyway without risking spontaneous internal
combustion. They are all fine in thier own respsct and weren't ment to
be interchanged in the first place so who cares what fits what.
Just my $0.02

The thing is we are forced into buying a certain hub depending on what
kind of cranks we want and if the old cranks break you are forced into
getting the same kind again or rebuilding your wheel with a new hub. I
have a koxx hub on my uni and I really like the look of the new KH
cranks and theoretically I should be able to get some and use them but
koxx messed it up.

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I'll bet you any money that if you ask KOXX why thier hub doesn't fit
other cranks, they say "because we want you to use our cranks" Pepsi,
Coke, It's all the same thing anyway isn't it. And what if the
manufacturer that makes KOXX's hubs just didn't get the specs right, is
that KOXX's fault. Ask Darren why he has to keep shimming his frames.
I'll bet that isn't his fault at all. Maybe the real victim in all of
this is KOXX. In fact, I bet they didn't even know about it until
someone on this forum found out.
I'll be waiting for my RECALL slip in the mail.

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Beener said:

I'll bet you any money that if you ask KOXX why thier hub doesn't fit
other cranks, they say "because we want you to use our cranks" Pepsi,
Coke, It's all the same thing anyway isn't it. And what if the
manufacturer that makes KOXX's hubs just didn't get the specs right, is
that KOXX's fault. Ask Darren why he has to keep shimming his frames.
I'll bet that isn't his fault at all. Maybe the real victim in all of
this is KOXX. In fact, I bet they didn't even know about it until
someone on this forum found out.
I'll be waiting for my RECALL slip in the mail.

Well nobody thinks they did it on purpose but the bad thing is that
they still advertise it as ISIS when it isn't and they probably know
about it by now. The shim on the Bedford frame is completely different.
Most frames I have seen are not perfect. If it is off by so little that
a little piece of yellow tape or whatever can fix it then there is no
harm done at all. Buying a hub thinking that you will be able to use
any ISIS cranks then finding out you can't kind of sucks.

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skianduniaddict said:

does koxx make good unis

Very good unis!

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abbabibble said:

Cody bent his koxx.
he was working it pretty hard.

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Beener said:

I'll bet that isn't his fault at all. Maybe the real victim in all of
this is KOXX.

So if your car breaks the manufacturer could say "Oh, that part that
broke wasn't acutally produced by us, so its not our fault, actually we
are the victim here!".

When Koxx orders some Hubs from a manufacturer they must check if it
was produced according to their specs. With the ISIS specs this is
really simple and shouldn't take more than a few minutes.
If they are too lazy or to dumb to do this, they should not produce or
sell anything.

It's also quite a coincidence that the Koxx cranks are the most
expensive unicycle-cranks by far. Would be really a pity for Koxx if we
could use the cheaper KH ones, wouldn't it? If I could by the Koxx
street cranks for 60€ (like the moment cranks) that would be
fine, but 100€? Looks like a 40€ special Koxx-ISIS-tax to
me...

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i own a koxx ISIS hub and crank set.

i dont care what the hell they call it, i'll only ever buy koxx hubs
and cranks again. I really like them and am enjoying them, i dont care
if they dont fit other hubs or cranks, cause i wont ever want to.

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munipsycho said:

Just a bit of advice: never vomit while wearing a full-face helmet.

irvinegr said:

haha i just thaught it was funny the title is "3th movie"

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oo give him and intising lap dance while he rubs pasteries all over you

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Has anyone took it upon themselves to e-mail Koxx and tell them about
this, and ask what they have to say about it?

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Jerrick said:

Has anyone took it upon themselves to e-mail Koxx and tell them about
this, and ask what they have to say about it?

i was only thinking of doing that like 10 mins ago when i was reading
this thread.

i migth do it later

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munipsycho said:

Just a bit of advice: never vomit while wearing a full-face helmet.

irvinegr said:

haha i just thaught it was funny the title is "3th movie"

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iridemymuni said:

i was only thinking of doing that like 10 mins ago when i was reading
this thread.

i migth do it later

I just sent one asking about it.

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Niko said:

So if your car breaks the manufacturer could say "Oh, that part that
broke wasn't acutally produced by us, so its not our fault, actually we
are the victim here!".

When Koxx orders some Hubs from a manufacturer they must check if it
was produced according to their specs. With the ISIS specs this is
really simple and shouldn't take more than a few minutes.
If they are too lazy or to dumb to do this, they should not produce or
sell anything.

It's also quite a coincidence that the Koxx cranks are the most
expensive unicycle-cranks by far. Would be really a pity for Koxx if we
could use the cheaper KH ones, wouldn't it? If I could by the Koxx
street cranks for 60€ (like the moment cranks) that would be
fine, but 100€? Looks like a 40€ special Koxx-ISIS-tax to
me...

Sorry Dude, I don't know where you are getting your KOXX stuff from,
but its the cheapest set of cranks and hub that we can get in Canada.
About $185.00 shipped to my door. Cranks alone are $70.00ish dollars.
BEATS THE HELL OUT OF $250.00 Kris Holms/Onza. Probably only $20.00
more expensive than the Moment hub and cranks. And YOUR COMPARING
APPLES TO ORANGES. THE ALLOY KOXX CRANKS ARE THE SAME PRICE AS KRIS
HOLMS ALLOYS. THE STREET CRANKS ARE COMPARABLE TO KRIS HOLMS CRO-MO
ONZA.

Second, I didn't say that they would tell you, "Oh it's not my fault",
I just said that it isn't thier fault. Yoggi is the squarest shooter in
Unicycling today and has replaced or fixed any problem that has been
brought to him. I'll bet that if you package up your KOXX-1 hub and
cranks and send it back with a letter stating that you hate it because
it's not ISIS, you would have your money back in a heart beat.

As I said before, I have KOXX-1 140mm cranks and hub. It was cheap, it
works great and I would never want to put any other cranks on my hub
anyway. KOXX-1 works for me and if they don't work for you because you
think they lie or they decieve, great, don't buy thier stuff and there
will be more for the rest of us who LOVE IT.

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dude,

chillax.

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mscalisi said:

wait...invisible AND pink?

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Beener said:

Sorry Dude, I don't know where you are getting your KOXX stuff from, but
its the cheapest set of cranks and hub that we can get in Canada. About
$185.00 shipped to my door. Cranks alone are $70.00ish dollars. BEATS
THE HELL OUT OF $250.00 Kris Holms/Onza. Probably only $20.00 more
expensive than the Moment hub and cranks. And YOUR COMPARING APPLES TO
ORANGES. THE ALLOY KOXX CRANKS ARE THE SAME PRICE AS KRIS HOLMS ALLOYS.
THE STREET CRANKS ARE COMPARABLE TO KRIS HOLMS CRO-MO ONZA.

Second, I didn't say that they would tell you, "Oh it's not my fault",
I just said that it isn't thier fault. Yoggi is the squarest shooter in
Unicycling today and has replaced or fixed any problem that has been
brought to him. I'll bet that if you package up your KOXX-1 hub and
cranks and send it back with a letter stating that you hate it because
it's not ISIS, you would have your money back in a heart beat.

As I said before, I have KOXX-1 140mm cranks and hub. It was cheap, it
works great and I would never want to put any other cranks on my hub
anyway. KOXX-1 works for me and if they don't work for you because you
think they lie or they decieve, great, don't buy thier stuff and there
will be more for the rest of us who LOVE IT.

+1

i couldnt have said it better myself

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munipsycho said:

Just a bit of advice: never vomit while wearing a full-face helmet.

irvinegr said:

haha i just thaught it was funny the title is "3th movie"

pixystix6 said:

oo give him and intising lap dance while he rubs pasteries all over you

kapoute said:

It just depend if you are gay or not...

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The Koxx cranks are $79USD from renegade and the KH moment cranks are
$76USD from udc.

I really like koxx stuff too and at the moment I wouldn't have a reason
to get any cranks other than the ones I have. In the future when more
and more ISIS cranks come up I wouldn't be able to use them when I am
supposed to be able to. It doesn't make me mad but they should just
stop calling it an ISIS hub if ISIS cranks won't fit it.

I think it would be like if Miyata advertised that any seat would fit
on their seatposts when you can really only use the miyata/lx seat.
Then some people would be mad and some people would just say "why would
I ever want a different seat?"

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Evan said:

why are the dead burryed in the best beds?
a casket would be an awesome bed, they are fluffy

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I know 4 people who have damaged his koxx cranks and nobody gets
something replaced to Marco Yoggi said only that he has a bad technik
and must learn a lot.

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Beener said:

Sorry Dude, I don't know where you are getting your KOXX stuff from, but
its the cheapest set of cranks and hub that we can get in Canada. About
$185.00 shipped to my door. Cranks alone are $70.00ish dollars. BEATS
THE HELL OUT OF $250.00 Kris Holms/Onza. Probably only $20.00 more
expensive than the Moment hub and cranks. And YOUR COMPARING APPLES TO
ORANGES. THE ALLOY KOXX CRANKS ARE THE SAME PRICE AS KRIS HOLMS ALLOYS.
THE STREET CRANKS ARE COMPARABLE TO KRIS HOLMS CRO-MO ONZA.

I really want shorter cranks for my uni, so would like to buy new ones
as soon as possible. For me the options are K1 Street cranks or the
125mm moment cranks, but not the K1 alu ones because of their inferior
shape for street. And of cource for me the European prices matter. By
the way, your Caps-Lock seems to be defect.

I do like my K1, it has not failed on me. The new KH uses many good
ideas that Koxx introduced to unicycling.
But Koxx and Yoggi had all the time in the world to reply to this
ISIS-issue (apart from the problems that Lutz named). All Yoggi did was
to post a cocky reply in Kris Holms thread. Though to be fair I really
should email them about this. If I could get a cashback for my uni I
would happily accept it and get a KH insteat.

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